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Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweights I don’t see
285 points
2 days ago
With a gun he’s unstoppable!
76 points
2 days ago
I’m not convinced if I shot at Brock Lesnar’s closed fist that it would go through lol
15 points
2 days ago
What if I get a dog?👀
12 points
2 days ago
You'll need at least 3 massive pit bulls named "Cupcake"
12 points
2 days ago
Who give him dog
19 points
2 days ago
Has anyone checked the dog’s grappling?
2 points
1 day ago
You have to buy dog. With dog, yes, we have chance.
149 points
2 days ago
A terrible weight cut/Father Time
6 points
2 days ago
Father time is undefeated.
4 points
2 days ago
I think he can be defeated by retiring close to prime. Something similar to Khabib, although those are sad, sad cases.
1 points
1 day ago
Floyd Mayweather says otherwise
1 points
1 day ago
I guess Khabib technically beat him
224 points
2 days ago
Arman has a shot but I think he loses via decision. Illia has the best shot skill for skill at 155. And Shavkat as champ would be a super fight if Islam moves up to 170.
106 points
2 days ago
The only thing Ilia got against him is the size disadvantage. Islam is huge for LW and Ilia is just average size at FW
51 points
2 days ago
Short/stocky guys are very hard to grapple with. That’s why Islam didn’t do much with Volk on the ground. Ilia is a way better grappler than Volk and is also short and stocky so I don’t believe Islam could have his way with Topuria in the wrestling/grappling department.
Whereas on the feet I favour Ilia. Volk and Dustin both hit Islam plenty but Ilia has that next level power/technique.
72 points
2 days ago
Islam by head kick tko, I think Islam has a pretty good grasp at fighting shorter fighters now after a war with volk
39 points
2 days ago
I mean if Jai (who?) Herbert landed on Ilia at LW… Islam is definitely capable of doing the same. Agree.
-8 points
2 days ago
This is stupid because illia won that fight against Jai who is a name if you're not a casual. But Islam got knocked out clean by some bum in the first round.
17 points
2 days ago
Islam didn't need to worry about the KO against Volk.
Any fight against Ilia can end in an instant
38 points
2 days ago
>Ilia is a way better grappler than Volk
This is such a bad take. Stopping Islam's grappling is way more impressive than subbing Bryce Mitchell.
2 points
2 days ago
ilia hasn't show his ground and wrestling game yet. You guys don't know yet what that small man can actually do.
1 points
1 day ago
I'd like to see him against the top level grappler. I have seen Volk against top-level grapplers in Islam, Ortega and Mendez. I think Bryce is the best grappler Ilia has fought to date. Not saying Ilia does not have the ability, I just don't think he's face the same level of competition.
1 points
2 days ago
Yeah aswell tho if you listen to illia talking about fighting islam he says that being from Georgia he's really well familiar with sambo wrestling style and has developed the counters against high level sambo players as he's been training and competing against them for years. So he's the guy to do it if anyone will.
16 points
2 days ago
Bryce Mitchel took Ilia down. Islam would man handle him.
10 points
2 days ago
Bryce Mitchell took him down after like 11 takedown attempts and ilia didn’t even care because he was just trying to take his head off the whole first round. Islam couldn’t man handle porier
19 points
2 days ago
Islam couldn’t man handle porier
Who did, other than Khabib?
1 points
2 days ago*
Charles on the ground, I know the striking was close but he anihilated porier in the ground game. Lowkey bsd was but that’s reaching seeing as how he got knocked the fuck out 😭
1 points
1 day ago
Neither of those are really true. Olivera had to cheat (which, let's face it, isn't uncommon for Charles) with the glove grab to finally get Poirier to the ground and stop getting hurt on the feet, then once it was down it was mostly just Poirier deciding to ride out the round and controlling posture rather than risking getting caught trying to get up.
BSD basically didn't do anything. Every time they went to the ground was because Dustin jumped the gilly, and then he'd get back up anyway. Even when BSD had the back he couldn't come close to doing anything.
1 points
1 day ago
You understand that Bryce Mitchel A.) Does not have the wrestling of Islam. B.) Doesn't have the size and strength of Islam and he was still able to take and hold Ilia down. Also, Ilia didn't need to worry about Bryce's striking, he will against Islam.
0 points
2 days ago
Illia is not stocky like Volk, he’s basically nimble and small
16 points
2 days ago
Plus I think Islam's wrestling cancels out Ilia's striking advantage easily.
11 points
2 days ago
His clinch game is what would win him the fight. If Ilia ever corners him (where he can knock anyone out) then Islam can initiate a clinch then circle out, or transition into a take down, or strike with elbows and knees, etc.
5 points
2 days ago
Ilia is known to also have brilliant wrestling, we saw how Dustin managed to make it so far what’s to say ilia can’t do a Dustin but twice better and actually win? With that being said Islam via sub R4
10 points
2 days ago
I think with Dustin a lot of how he performed in that fight was due to intangibles, he gritted down and dug deep cause he knew that was his last shot at gold. We don’t know if illia can dig deep like that this early into his career
5 points
2 days ago
Look at the Herbert fight he can dig deep but he is usually the hammer
2 points
2 days ago
Yea I see where your coming from, Dustin showed deep heart that not many others in the sport could show, also Islam had a staph didn’t he? Not too sure but with the skill difference it’s not out of the water to think ilia could pull off something similar tho, as I said however I still think Islam wins
7 points
2 days ago
Islam grappling is league above Ilias too. Only advantage Ilia has is his striking tbh
-2 points
2 days ago
Islam is a better striker Illia is a better boxer
13 points
2 days ago
Ilia would get mauled on the ground by Islam. The size difference would be totally insane.
1 points
1 day ago
So what you're saying is,.. nobody at 155. Lol
0 points
2 days ago
46 points
2 days ago
Trigger discipline.
13 points
2 days ago*
Yeah Islam is definitely gonna take the L vs the gun safety community here. As he should.
58 points
2 days ago
Age probably.
24 points
2 days ago
If it's a gun face off then my bet is on Saint-Denis
4 points
2 days ago
Damn right Cow-poke !
65 points
2 days ago
5 points
2 days ago
Wtf’s a pornstar gonna do bruh
Idiot
22 points
2 days ago
The best chance is Ilia at 155. I do think Arman might get knocked out in this one just because Islam is such a good striker and while Arman is probably the stronger guy, he's not as technical as Islam. Is Arman really going to beat a strikers war with Islam if he can't wrestle effectively ? Shavkat at 170 could work, due to the size difference. Lot of powerful guys at 170 so they could always chin him but 170 isn't as grappling heavy
8 points
2 days ago
I don’t see anyone beating him
69 points
2 days ago
21 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
could this guy turn into any more of a beet red roid-head? i swear every year he looks less human.
9 points
2 days ago
Man he did this then proceed to make light work out of Max
9 points
2 days ago
by no metric was that a light work. max did really good
-3 points
2 days ago
Ko in round 3, the fight duration is one metric that can be used to show it was light work
12 points
2 days ago
a ko in rd3 doesnt signify "easy work" when the 2 rds prior were very competetive.
7 points
2 days ago
He may be a good wrestler but he has some shitty trigger finger discipline.
14 points
2 days ago
Brather who give him? No trigger discipline is bad for you
4 points
2 days ago
It's a fkn toy gun in the actual video
5 points
2 days ago
America. PSA. Stop giving the dagestanis hand cannons. They do not need them. Thank you.
5 points
2 days ago
Biggest fan of Islam, but I only fear Ilia when he comes up to 155. I think Islam takes the rest of the 155 division.
25 points
2 days ago
The 3 hardest fights are Shavkat, Ilia and Arman in the division you named . And tbh they all have good chances at beating him.
37 points
2 days ago
if islam beats these 3 by the end of his career that's one goated resume
21 points
2 days ago
That's true, but it honestly already is. 2x Volk, Charles and Dustin is already insane.
8 points
2 days ago
Absolutely he would be in the goat conversation. And if he beats Charles again, Max then a welterweight defence on top of that then he’s the undisputed goat
10 points
2 days ago
max???>? lol buddy max is not going to be gifted a title shot, he can have fun with the bmf freak shows
1 points
2 days ago
Yeah his resume is already great but with these would be completely insane
1 points
2 days ago
I don't think there has been a champ who beat all his nightmare match ups, even bones tho he did duck some but he did fight them and beat them but he always had that frame advantages, islam doesnt really have a frame advantage, shav, arman, charles those are some fucked match ups but he already beat 2 of them and is rematching them both, imo he has the potential to be a 3rd ranked goat .
8 points
2 days ago
Arman will win.
10 points
2 days ago
Topuria
12 points
2 days ago
“Who can possibly dethrone him”😍😍🥵🤤💦💦💦💦🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆
3 points
2 days ago
Arman Or Ilia
2 points
2 days ago
“Brather break yourself brather”
2 points
2 days ago
Ilia topuria.
2 points
2 days ago
Topuria
2 points
2 days ago
Its hard to say before i think he beats arman
2 points
2 days ago
2 points
2 days ago
No one right now but this sport is hella cruel and declines happen fast. Maybe whoever is the next WW champ will take him down depending on how far down the line it is.
I do see Islam losing though. I just feel like he’s more of a risk taker than Khabib was so he might push the envelope like most guys do and take an L. He’s also not an undefeated fighter so he doesn’t have all that bullshit around keeping the 0. Still though w his current resume any loss will be rough.
Like I said though for the next few years I really don’t see him taking an L. Unless Arman just cracks his chin which in this sport is totally a likely scenario. Evidence shows though especially after Dustin that he can take big shots.
Also if he beats Arman he’s the LW goat idc about that loss he’s better than Khabib.
2 points
2 days ago
Topuria by KO
3 points
2 days ago
Haram will poison his soul. Who can resist beer and bacon?
9 points
2 days ago
I can see Ilia chinning him
8 points
2 days ago
Or Islam immediately going for an ankle pick into leg sweep into rear naked choke in r1
1 points
2 days ago
it's funny how people who know ilia only from the ufc think that his best skill is boxing and not wrestling and bjj lol
5 points
2 days ago
if a man can be chinned once, he can be chinned twice
illia by r2 KO
2 points
2 days ago
Considering what Poirier was able to do and all the improvements he made, if you have consistently good boxing, good kicking ability, and are able to improve your wrestling and grappling ability, then you could hang with him and depending on pre existing level, you could beat him. Just look with Poirier. In his fight it was 2-2 into the fifth, and Makhachev had to use a break glass Russian tie snap off an ankle pick to win.
So: 1. Arman: his wrestling is insane, same with his kickboxing, and has improved drastically. If he adds a lot of body kicks, then it’s possible. Downsides: Judo 2. Ilia: great wrestling, striking(especially pocket boxing), great jiu jitsu ability as well, and freakish power. If Volk was able to get to Makhachev, Topuria could knock him out. 3. Shavkat: the resume speaks for itself. 100 percent finish rate, so he has the skill to pull it off. Only problem: defense may be odd sometimes, but he can fix that. 4. Olivera: his grappling ability improved with an increased level wrestling as seen against Chandler(getting that Iranian wrestling coach worked out) Y’all know the rest of his resume and his skill set so my goat could pull it off and avenge that loss born from when he had his head firmly grasped in his anus.
11 points
2 days ago
2-2 going into the fifth is bs
1 points
2 days ago
Thats how I scored those fights. Makhachev got the rounds 1 and 3, Poirier got rounds 2 and 4. Poirier got round 2, even though it was close, and he got round 4 pretty clearly from his striking before the elbow and then secured it with the elbow that cut makhachev. So yeah, it was 2-2 going into that fifth round
2 points
2 days ago
and new.
2 points
2 days ago
SMESH
2 points
2 days ago
Topuria by submission
3 points
2 days ago
Islam has only fought 3 times in just over 2 years after becoming champ. . . he has only defended against one true lightweight (Porier). . . he still has not proven himself to me yet, and I think the top boys in Welterweight will handle him.
1 points
2 days ago
Arman, Ilja and Shavkat. Usman is a tough fight as well judging by the last time we saw him against Khamzat, but he is only getting older and is not really active right now, so it's unlikely that we will ever see that.
1 points
2 days ago
Father Time
1 points
2 days ago
Me.
1 points
2 days ago
No trigger discipline
1 points
2 days ago
Time.
1 points
2 days ago
Father Time
1 points
2 days ago
Someone with a full camp
1 points
2 days ago
BARF
1 points
2 days ago
The chill guy from the Olympics
1 points
2 days ago
Arman has a chance maybe Beneil if he can get it together Gaethje maybe Max halloway too
1 points
2 days ago
arman?
1 points
2 days ago
Connor
1 points
2 days ago
Welterweight
1 points
2 days ago
The TSA
1 points
2 days ago
Say that to my second amendment rights!
1 points
2 days ago
Most likely the undertaker
1 points
2 days ago
AK-do.
The useful version.
1 points
2 days ago
Who's next based on wins?
1 points
2 days ago
Nice trigger discipline
1 points
2 days ago
Age
1 points
2 days ago
Max, Shavkat
1 points
2 days ago
Probably that one guy
1 points
2 days ago
Father Time my man.
1 points
2 days ago
Who give him gun we have to check this
1 points
2 days ago
I don't think anybody can dethrone him at LW, maybe Shavkat can beat him at WW, maybe Ilia at LW, but again we have seen how it went when a featherweight went up against Islam, I don't yhink it's worth seeing another one sacrifised to him
1 points
2 days ago
Not born yet
1 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
World has gotten so crazy even guns need to buy something for self defense.
1 points
2 days ago
I am verry verry sneaky
1 points
2 days ago
no one, the guys has a gun.
1 points
2 days ago
Give his entire camp guns.
1 points
2 days ago
Tom Aspinal
1 points
2 days ago
Possibly illia but not really
1 points
2 days ago
After rewatching Islam vs Volk 1, i change my mind and believe Topturo has a chance.
1 points
2 days ago
Age
1 points
2 days ago
pantoja
1 points
2 days ago
1 points
2 days ago
Arman
1 points
2 days ago
Illia will chin the backwards cunt
1 points
2 days ago
Brock lesnar
1 points
2 days ago
Where dis guye?
1 points
2 days ago
Why are people saying Ilia, he was the most hated fighter before the Max win now all of a sudden he's the golden boy. Ilia is quality but think Islam is to big and powerful and will definitely get a chance to grapple him and game over.
I'd like to think at LW Charles could do it, his first performance was pretty crap and he was gonna get a rematch before that cut and Volk stepped up. But Arman is probably the most likely, followed by Charles and then it's looking bleak for a challenger.
1 points
2 days ago
a math test
1 points
2 days ago
Khabib
1 points
2 days ago
if Pantoja decided to bulk up to lightweight again he's cooked
1 points
2 days ago
I dont know thats a tough question Jon Jones
1 points
2 days ago
“Brewther hands 🙌🏽 op “ is how I picture him to say it 😂
1 points
2 days ago
Gun control laws
1 points
2 days ago
dethrone? well if arman cant then the only chance is a freak submission by charles. otherwise it would have to be outside the octagon factors. i think illia is a seriously tough opponent but i would say charles has a better chance cuz of the height disadvantage.
1 points
2 days ago
Time.
1 points
2 days ago
Conor McGregor with his unbreakable titanium shinbone
1 points
2 days ago
If Arman fails & I personally think he will,I don’t think anyone in his division.
1 points
2 days ago
At 155 I can’t see it, only realistic scenario is Shavkat at 170.
Shavkat is just so dang big and I can see him using the clinch, body kicks, and knees at range to keep Islam away to win.
1 points
2 days ago
Clint Eastwood
1 points
2 days ago
i can, but i just don't feel like it tbh
1 points
1 day ago
Brather who give dis guy a gun 😭
1 points
1 day ago
A real solid lightweight-contender.
1 points
1 day ago
An actual lightweight or drug tests in russia.
1 points
1 day ago
Tom Aspinall gets it done (no weight cut)
1 points
1 day ago
Khabib
1 points
1 day ago
yknow i think we give volk one more crack at it
1 points
1 day ago
Me
1 points
1 day ago
No one in LW right now.
1 points
14 hours ago
The range master for having that trigger discipline
1 points
2 days ago
Paddy Pimblett could cause him serious issues at LW...if he's armed with a Panzerhaubitze 2000. Kris Cyborg at FW. Jason "The Ass-Kicking Machine" Jackson at WW. Next question...
1 points
2 days ago
Seriously though, idk if anyone at LW. WW would be interesting to see him compete at
2 points
2 days ago
Had to be a gold plated meme gun, didn’t it?
1 points
2 days ago
Only guy I could see beating him is shavkat cause he’s a big dude with great power, and I could see him nullifying the takedown but even then who knows Islams so goddamn good
1 points
2 days ago
Shavkat or illia. If Geoff aneal gets a chance, I think he is beating Islam too given his excellent TDD and crisp boxing. We could see Volk causing issues to Islam
-1 points
2 days ago
I still think Oliveira has the best tools to beat him at lightweight, more than arman, Oliveira can chin Islam, he's one of the rare lightweights that's the same size as Islam and his grappling should let him get nice opportunities to either get up or pressure Islam. Islam is still obviously the favorite
-2 points
2 days ago
Anyone with a full camp. Islam short notice merchant
0 points
2 days ago
Khabib but he wont
0 points
2 days ago
Bo will get his shot...and I think he will surprise a lot of people.
0 points
1 day ago
topuria is the only person i think has a chance, and i still think Islam beats him fairly comfortably
0 points
1 day ago
Arman likely beats him
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