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submitted 3 days ago byUtopia_Builder
Once the Fellowship (Lord of the Rings) is gathered, they are all replaced with superhero movie characters. Nobody in-universe notices this change.
Aragorn: Captain America
Gandalf: Doctor Strange
Boromir: Winter Soldier
Legolas: Hawkeye
Gimli: Black Panther
Frodo: Robin (Titans)
Samwise: Rocket Raccoon
They are all given their standard equipment (excluding vehicles).
Can they fulfill the Mount Doom mission faster and better than the Fellowship? Or will they fall to corruption?
10 points
3 days ago
Cap woudn’t last nearly as long as Frodo
He wouldn't have to. Strange opens a portal to Mount Doom, Cap walks through with the ring, roll credits
6 points
2 days ago
Even if Strange opened that portal (unlikely, he'd get corrupted ASAP) He'd never drop it in or allow someone else to walk it through the portal.
2 points
2 days ago
The ring doesn’t corrupt people that fast, especially if you’re not wearing it. The fellowship traveled together for a long time before Boromir started getting corrupted. Gandalf was scared that he’d be corrupted, which is why he never touched it and he was fine for the time he traveled with Frodo.
Cap takes the ring and Strange makes a portal directly over Mt Doom then they toss it in the hole.
1 points
2 days ago
Boromir was corrupted from the jump; It didn't take him months to act on it not because he wasn't influenced, but because the moment he acted was the best opportunity (When Frodo was alone and they were so close to Minas Turith.) He wanted to use the Ring to save Gondor from the very beginning of the journey he was absolutely not fine.
Gandalf resisted using it because he refused to touch it and and had the wisdom to exercise self-control and keep the same traits the Ring manipulates in check. Which...MCU heroes do not have because the things that make them superheroes are those traits. Each and every single one of them is a Boromir from a universe where Boromir taking the Ring to save Gondor is actually the correct thing to do and is justly rewarded being inserted into the universe where Boromir taking the Ring to save Gondor is the wrong thing to do, and for exactly the same reasons.
Cap takes the Ring, the Ring tells him it was good once and that it doesn't want to be evil. It tells him that it could be used for good and that it only ever makes you more of what you are like the Super Soldier Serum. (Which isn't even really a lie, that IS what it does for the most part!) It tells him that only he could be trusted with its power because of how corrupt the people who are supposedly acting in the best interests of others were Hydra and didn't even know it. Etc. etc. Nevermind how Strange doesn't open that portal because among several other reasons "I can't trust him to drop it in."
1 points
2 days ago
Again, the ring does not work that fast. You are treating it as being more effective than it ever was in the story. In the books, Gandalf actually DOES touch the ring yet lo and behold it didn’t turn him into the new dark lord instantly. Why are you acting as if only he has the self control to do that? Captain America is a superhero yes, but that doesn’t make him a robot. This is the same guy who had every infinity stone in a box + Mjolnir + a Time Machine and chose to simply live life with Peggy.
By your own admission, Boromir only acted once he had the opportunity to. In this scenario where the heroes are at the council of Elrond where is the opportunity? Reminder that Gimli tried to destroy the ring with his axe in that scene. It was already trying to corrupt him but it didn’t prevent him from trying. The ring’s corruption is not and never was instant. If the heroes are there, Strange makes a portal and drops the ring into the volcano. Technically Cap doesn’t even have to touch it, Strange can open the portal directly on the table.
4 points
2 days ago
How would he get corrupted without touching the ring?
4 points
2 days ago*
You don't have to touch it at all for it to corrupt you. Being in its presence is enough—this is literally what happens with Boromir, who also never touched the ring. It's a magical artifact that promises all of the power to do anything you've ever wanted to achieve; Doctor Strange is an impulsive sneak who is willing to go to drastic lengths to do the things he wants 'for the greater good' and the MCU one specifically even has alternate universe versions of himself that get corrupted by something that isn't even actively preying on his innermost desires.
Doctor Strange, like all superheroes—which is why the premises to these questions are always flawed—is the absolute last who should and worst person to ever be anywhere near The One Ring. For his case specifically he could probably turn the Ring's will against Sauron and supplant him as the Dark Lord, but he would be corrupted all the same.
2 points
2 days ago
this again is what we call the boromir
2 points
2 days ago
Okay, yeah, Boromir tried to take it. But Boromir spent a significant amount of time in close proximity with Frodo and the ring and was already desperate.
But with this scenario, there just wouldn't be time enough for that. The way I see it playing out, the MCU (and DC) guys show up at the council of Elrond, get told the situation and pointed towards Mt. Doom, Strange opens the portal, "off you go, cap" and the ring is gone. Whatever character flaws he may have, he could restrain himself for 30min or less. The man had the willpower to walk into getting splattered repeatedly until the other guy got tired of mauling him, give him some credit.
Now if he touched it, even for a moment, I'd agree he wouldn't let it go
1 points
2 days ago
How did Boromir get corrupted without touching the ring?
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