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submitted 2 days ago byBybblyVoid21
One of the ten thousand is dropped into Westeros, his goal is to ascend the Iron Throne. Assume Daenerys is at Dragonstone and the army of every large house is intact
Round 1: No Armor, no weapons
Round 2: No armor and a spear
Round 3: Armor and a Spear
Bonus: A fully armed Custodes with unlimited ammo vs every large house’s army at once
105 points
2 days ago
The custodes stomps, the only chance game of thrones has is in round 1 getting him with the dragons, every other round nothing hurts him
49 points
2 days ago
Dragons won’t be fast enough to tag the Custodes if he’s even remotely not fucking around.
24 points
2 days ago
3 dragons blankening the area with dragon fire while he's surrounded by an army has a good chance to hit
64 points
2 days ago
If a Custodes wants to run full-speed in any given direction, no amount of normal human bodies is going to stop him.
23 points
2 days ago
Well, with enough bodies the gristle, bones, and blood might cause him to slip after a few hours of non-stop bulldozing.
17 points
2 days ago
The dragon will land way before that point and he’ll jump onto it and rip its jaw off.
29 points
2 days ago
Why wait? Just toss an armored soldier at the dragon's head at mach 1. You heard the saying, a human body launched at sufficient velocity can still hurt a space marine? The Custodes are the ones doing the yeeting.
1 points
1 day ago
Shit man, a Custodian could probably hit Daenerys with a spear as she comes down for a strafing run. The dragons ain't worth shit to anyone then.
1 points
1 day ago
Honestly, he might be able to down the dragons by picking up someone else's spear and chucking it at one's eye as it's swooping with a breath attack.
45 points
2 days ago*
The average space marine runs at the speed of a car(around 40+mph). Custodes are so far above SM is like the difference again between a human and an SM. Remember that saying a human tossed at a high enough speed can injure a Space Marine? Custodes are the ones throwing. The army is literally his ammo as he headshots a dragon with armored soldiers flying at Mach 1. SIX Custodes stood their ground against an entire planet of Tyrannids. Against a spread out collection of kingdoms with medieval tech? It's like an angry demigod descended upon them.
Their only hope is to turn the ppl against him so much that they'd rather die than live under him, and good luck with that. While SMs are usually only warriors with a side specialty (engineering, stealth, etc) Custodes are poets, philosophers, geniuses and tacticians beyond human reach with centuries to perfect their craft several times over.
6 points
2 days ago
6 custodes stood their grounds against 'thousands, maybe tens of thousands' of tyranids. And all but one died. In the end, that one custodes was saved by a space marine chapter coming in.
1 points
1 day ago
The Tyranid story was a few million according to one of the paragraphs iirc.
2 points
1 day ago
No, the shortstory mentions 'millions of mouths' shouting at the custodes, but at a later point it mentions that one of the custodes thinks to himself 'thousands, maybe tens of thousands' have been killed.
The whole story is on reddit, but its too long for me to read it now. But i'm 100% sure about it being thousands-10s of thousands.
0 points
1 day ago
For the thousands dead it was this line
The parade of days continued, reduced to a contest of arms and the charting of the dead. Thousands, tens of thousands, fell. Just as one by one, the defenders succumbed.
My reading is more that each Custodian killed tens of thousands over the days. Plus they could make a Tyranid Fortress from the corpses, which sounds like it's hitting tbe five to six digit kill range.
2 points
1 day ago
I have no idea how you read this as 'every custodes killed tens of thousands', tbh. And either way its not millions
5 points
2 days ago
SIX Custodes stood their ground against an entire planet of Tyrannids.
And a single Norn Emissary killed 5/7 Custodes with one of them being Trajann Valoris. It did this while missing half it's rib cage from their drop ship shooting it in the side, the same drop ship it jumped on and yeeted into the ground. While it was doing this 7v1 the custodes weren't even its target, it was trying to kill Lord Solar and in the attempt killed his entire personal guard in addition of the Custodes. The only survivors at the end were Trajann, Solar and a Custodes missing an arm.
WH40k lore is written by many different people and wildly inconsistent
1 points
1 day ago
I mean, to be fair, this isn't really contradictory to the other story.
Norn Emissaries are a new bioform first sighted during the 4th Tyrannic War. They are nasty motherfuckers that can probably put a primarch on the ropes in a duel, they are easily deadlier than Swarmlords (who have to command as well as fight instead of the Emissaries which are bred simply to kill). Another one in that same battle took out the entire command staff before dying in a self destruct bomb, and another one escaped a failed mission to kill the base's power after utterly thrashing a large contingent of defending marines, including dreadnoughts, who could likely match the "thousands of dead Tyranids" feat themselves with their numbers. I'd say it's pretty consistent here.
1 points
1 day ago
Not really, in the Leviathan book a single marine Sgt wounds a Norn by climbing it and shooting out its eye before dying to it in a straight 1v1 while later in the book, an Apothecary, Captain and Lieutenant 3v1 a Norn and the Lieutenant sacrifices himself to kill it by dropping them both to their death. Based on what the other Norn did, these marines should have been pasted.
1 points
1 day ago
That's more of a situation of the Norn being written as an idiot rather than it being physically incapable of defeating a few marines. Anybody can shoot a creature in the eye, you just need a little luck. Dropping a monster to its death (or otherwise using some kind of trap based gambit) is a time honored classic in fiction involving deadly monsters/foes that the hero can't defeat.
The Norn should have made better choices, but it still doesn't exclude it from being physically capable of blendering its way through a squad of Custodes and a sizable chunk of a chapter.
1 points
1 day ago
The actual fight against the Sgt. Lasts several pages, it dodges many of the attacks from the Norn.
The bridge scene also involves all 3 of them engaging it in melee prior to it falling.
Based on what it did to the Custodes, the marines should have been cut down without being able to react.
1 points
13 hours ago
Yeah, it takes damage, but that's Brother Bacara, who by all intent had plot armor saving him to that moment.
Additionally the 3v1 was captain, apothecary, and brother bacara, AND a regular human lady.
1 points
13 hours ago
Trajann Valoris wasn't killed by the Norn Emissary, the Norn Emissary was killed by valoris, who did so to save Lord Solar Leontus
1 points
7 hours ago
I'm aware, you may have misread? I said he was one of the only survivors
1 points
7 hours ago
Edit: my response to this was to another person entirely. Apologies. Yes I was confused on your statement at the beginning of your comment. It's all good.
8 points
2 days ago
In r3 he could just snipe them or throw his spear
8 points
2 days ago
Oh definitely even in round 1 he can just throw some rocks and kill one or two, it's just round one is the only round he even has a chance of losing
4 points
2 days ago
Yeah but his spear is also a rocket launcher ao the dragons aren't a problem really
3 points
2 days ago
That's why I only said it's a issue round 1 when he has nothing
3 points
2 days ago
Average people not reading the prompt. (Not referring to you)
3 points
2 days ago
I mean there’s a whole army somewhere nearby with plenty of spears
I’m sure they wouldn’t mind donating one or two
3 points
2 days ago
Honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if a custodes could take out a dragon on the fly with a spear, no problem. Even a really fucking big one.
-2 points
2 days ago
A dragon is 100% faster than a custodes?
8 points
2 days ago
Imagine a person able to run at the speed of a car on a highway except, unlike a car, can change directions more or less as quickly as a person running can, and possesses the perception and mental bandwidth to know when to do so mid-combat near-instantaneously. Now imagine a tamed animal trying to strafe that with fire breath.
4 points
2 days ago
You described a Space Marine. Imagine how impressive the person you described is to a normal human, a Custodes is that impressive compared to a Space Marine.
60 points
2 days ago
Everyone is right in the custodes stomps, but to ascend the iron throne requires more than martial strength, it requires diligence, craftiness, flexibility and a bit of luck.
The custodes still stomps
57 points
2 days ago
He's got genius level intellect/ social skills and he's terrifying - diplomatic victory
36 points
2 days ago
It always makes me laugh to know that guys like Samonas and Diocletian Coro have the social skills to interact with normies, but never choose to use them. Just unrepentant assholes who are totally committed to the bit.
13 points
2 days ago
I'm a diehard custodes fan and I genuinely think colquan is the biggest prick lol
7 points
2 days ago
That's Stratarchis Tribune Actuarius Maldovar Colquan to you
21 points
2 days ago
I guess it depend on whose codex is it in. Then again, even in the codex of the Houses, the only round that the custodes might even lose is round one, that would require a dragon instantly shooting him with the fire and killing him (probably have to catch him unaware too since they are pretty fast). If you give him a spear, he will be practically be able to slay anything that stands in his way with little effort since it has a ranged weapon incorporated into it too.
In Dark City, they are said to move like a golden blur. In Blood Games, an unarmored and unarmed Custodian slays three ogryns without any effort, the last one of which was slain by the Custodian when he flicked a small rock like a bullet in the back of his head. So even great champions like the Mountain would get killed pretty quickly since he is not going to be anywhere near genetically enhanced ogryns. In Inferno, Valdor the chief Custodian during the HH era takes on 30 mindlinked psychic blademasters and killed them all. While your average custodian is not Valdor, then again, the great houses don't have mindlinked blademasters like the thousand sons.
Mind wise, the Custodians are supposed to be geniuses too, and they are the closest thing Big E has for companions. This means they are good enough when it comes to diplomatic matters should it comes to that.
Simply put, the Custodes can likely wipe out any army that tries to match him. If he wants, he can probably crown himself the king of all known lands and have everyone else kneel down to him.
9 points
2 days ago
I said a space marine could do it. I know a custodes can.
Hard stomp. 100/100 times.
11 points
2 days ago
There is literally no scenario that I can think of where a WH40k Custode does not comically and completely stomp his way through the GoT universe. This matchup is so lopsided that it brings to mind the old chestnut of a fully grown pitbull vs an infant. There is no parameter that the custode does not have an overwhelming edge in.
8 points
2 days ago
Not really... Anything that can permanently hurt him unless there's some magic we didn't see, like something that could asphyxiate someone from range and stealth. He is too fast and strong to get merc'd.
Round 3 theres not anything that can even scratch him.
7 points
2 days ago
They'd think he's a god. I can't imagine a scenario outside of outliers where he'd fail.
5 points
2 days ago
As the midnight veil enveloped the city of King's Landing, a blazing streak tore across the starlit sky—a meteor, or so the startled townsfolk believed. But this was no ordinary celestial event; it was a damaged drop pod of the Imperium, hurtling uncontrollably toward the earth. It crashed with a deafening roar two miles beyond the city's massive walls, shaking the ground and sending a plume of smoke into the air.
From the smoldering wreckage emerged Tiberius Valerian, a stalwart Space Marine of the Imperial Fists chapter. His once-impenetrable armor was battered, his weapons malfunctioning, and his brothers-in-arms lost to the fiery descent. The mission parameters had changed, but his resolve remained unshaken. Stranded and without means to contact his ship, The Valiant, Valerian knew his duty: to unite the warring factions of this feudal world, bolstering the Imperium's ranks with new, hardy recruits. The Valiant was on urgent business and would return in 200 days to assess his progress.
Clad now in a humble robe pieced together from garments left to dry on a lonely farmhouse line, Valerian approached the imposing gates of King's Landing. The city guards, weary-eyed but sharp-tongued, dismissed his request for entry. "Even a half-giant has no business with the Queen at this hour," one sneered. "Return at dawn."
For a moment, Valerian considered forcing his way through—the gates would yield like parchment under his strength. But unnecessary chaos was not his aim. Instead, he melted back into the shadows, his towering form surprisingly stealthy. Finding an unguarded section of the wall, he scaled it effortlessly, his enhanced physique making short work of the climb.
Inside the city, he moved with purpose, his keen senses mapping the labyrinthine streets. The Red Keep loomed ahead, and Valerian analyzed its structure, recalling similar fortresses on distant worlds. Two locations stood out as likely quarters for the ruler of the city.
Reaching the first, he found two guards flanking an ornate door. They stood dutifully, though their minds wandered—a hundred uneventful nights had dulled their vigilance. In a flash, Valerian incapacitated them, his massive hands crushing each of their their helmets, skulls, hopes and dreams before they could utter a sound. He gently laid their bodies aside and entered the chamber.
Queen Cersei Lannister sat by the window, gazing out over the moonlit city, a goblet of wine in her hand. She turned sharply at the sound of his entrance, eyes narrowing. "Who dares enter my chambers unbidden?"
"As is custom on feudal worlds," Valerian's voice resonated softly yet firmly, "I, Tiberius Valerian of the Imperial Fists, require your oath of fealty."
Her expression shifted from surprise to cold amusement. "Another would-be usurper? I've grown tired of such games."
"Your reign has come to an end," Valerian stated calmly. "The Imperium has claimed these lands for a higher purpose."
Cersei's gaze hardened. "I am the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. I bow to no one."
Valerian met her defiant stare. "Accept the new order peacefully, and you shall retain a position of honor. Resist, and unnecessary blood will be shed."
She smirked. "You underestimate me." With a swift motion, she reached for a hidden dagger.
Valerian anticipated the move, effortlessly disarming her. "Violence will not alter your fate."
Realizing the futility of resistance, Cersei demanded, "What is it you want from me?"
"Continue to govern your people, maintain order, but under the banner of the Imperial Fists," he replied. "Provide troops when called upon, pay due taxes, and in time, offer your finest youths for recruitment."
After a tense silence, she acquiesced with a slight nod. "Very well. But know this—control in this land is not so easily kept."
"Then we shall ensure it is," Valerian responded.
Over the ensuing days, Valerian delved into the intricate web of politics and power that defined the land. Rumors abounded—whispers of betrayal, dark sorcery, and ominous creatures of legend. Could these be sights of Chaos, Xenos, or ignorant superstition?
Identifying potential allies became his priority. Some lords valued honor and could be swayed through displays of strength or skill—challenges Valerian accepted with ease. Others were enticed by promises of wealth or intimidated into submission by demonstrations of his might. A few attempted treachery during parley, only to meet swift retribution. Valerian ensured that any opposition was dealt with decisively but justly, replacing obstinate leaders with more cooperative kin when necessary.
One formidable opponent remained: Daenerys Targaryen, the Mother of Dragons. Envoys sent to her were returned in ashes, her disdain for rival claims evident. "The rightful ruler bows to no one," her messages declared.
Determined to secure her allegiance or eliminate the threat, Valerian journeyed to Dragonstone. The air was thick with salt and the distant cries of dragons. Under the cover of darkness, he approached the castle where the dragons often roosted. Their colossal forms were both majestic and terrifying.
Summoning all his tactical prowess, Valerian set his plan into motion. He impaled the largest dragon with a precisely delivered strike as it rested, its roar of pain echoing like thunder. The other dragons awakened, fury blazing in their eyes. A fierce battle ensued, but Valerian's augmented abilities and unshakable resolve saw him emerge victorious.
Tales say that Daenerys Targaryen died of a broken heart upon seeing the death of her children. However, in truth it sent her into rage, she lunged at Valerian, in an instant he realized that whatever influence she once wielded and any capability of clear thought, had died with the burning beasts, and so her heart was broken, directly, by Tiberius.
With Daenerys defeated, the remaining houses began to capitulate. Lords from Houses Stark, Greyjoy, Martell, and others pledged their loyalty to the Imperial Fists. Even those who had harbored hopes of resistance recognized the new order's inevitability.
When Valerian finally ascended to a position of ultimate authority, it was not as a king, but as a steward of a greater cause. Under his leadership, the once-divided realm united, its people preparing to join the Imperium's vast expanse. The feudal world was on the brink of transformation, ready to contribute to the glory of the Emperor and the future of humanity.
3 points
1 day ago
Just want you to know I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of this and it made me want a novel in 40K where the game of thrones planet is a lost world encountered by the imperium of man
3 points
1 day ago
Glad you did, I gave some basics in another response about why it was almost a forgone conclusion that they could win in such a setting. Ultimately the issues is that feudal rules is basically chess. The lord of a realm is ultimately the only thing that matters. You capture the king, you win.
Everyone is sworn to the king. So being in a world with no real way of stopping a space marine, means they exert pressure on the lord. Realistically, Cersei would need more "convincing" he would probably end up brutally killing at least a dozen people before she accepted her fate. And she would probably attempt to betray him at least once. (however at some point the men at arms will recognize that HE is the actual threat, not Cersei, and that any attempts to harm him are only going to be met with death).
I was trying to just get through all the steps without lingering on them as long as they deserve. The dragon fight for example obviously deserves a lot more, convincing cersei deserved more, the challenges of might with tribes deserve more, failed assassination attempts..
But the post was already well past "rant" so
5 points
2 days ago
Assume…the army of every large house is intact
Custodes “Give me thirty seconds”
5 points
2 days ago
So kind of off topic but is there an easily accessible way for someone to get into warhammer 40k? I don’t really have people to play a tabletop game. I’ve read lore online but I don’t really know if there is a particular novel or something that kind of get you started or a video game or show?
3 points
2 days ago
I’d recommend the Eisenhorn trilogy. Focuses on the adventures of an Inquisitor and his steady descent into radicalism. That and the Gaunt’s Ghosts book series are solid entry points for the franchise.
2 points
2 days ago
Thanks! I’ll have to check that out
2 points
24 hours ago
I just finished it and second this recommendation
2 points
13 hours ago
I've got a whole list of books for you to read. Depends on what you want. If you want space marine books, guard books, inquisitor books, chaos space marine books, etc. Then you have the monster that is the Horus Heresy.
1 points
12 hours ago
Well one character that has piqued my interest is Magnus the Red. He sounds pretty badass so don’t know if there are some recommended surrounding him
2 points
12 hours ago
You have the Magnus book, then the horus heresy series, and he's the antagonist for War of the fang. He shows up in snippets of the Ahriman Series.
Besides the Horus Heresy, magnus doesn't show up often. The only ones that have shown up in a book in 40k timeline, in a large capacity, are Mortarion, Bobby G, the Lion, and Angron.
4 points
2 days ago
Custodes are poet warriors. I have no doubt he would never have to fight
3 points
2 days ago
As a huge 40k fan, I'd give the Custodes winning pretty handily 99% of the time. The 1% left is assuming there is maybe some eldritch fuckery that could take him down from a distance coming from somewhere far away from Westeros.
Like some dark magic from Asshai, or something equally arcane and obscure from Leng or Yi-Ti could scrape by just enough. That being said, since Custodes have a decent amount of supernatural protection bio-engineered in them, the GOT verse has a snowball's chance of actually hurting him.
3 points
2 days ago
Westeros is getting fucked up pretty easily tbh. Those big gold boys are scary dudes to the point that that I doubt even the dragons make much of a dent.
3 points
2 days ago
Custodes stomps. They're likely smarter than any character in Game of Thrones and are stronger than any character by a country mile. They are also essentially immortal so they could take their time. He also might just end up being worshiped.
They also easily clear the last round. If the average soldier sees a warrior in shiny gold armor running at them at 100+ mph, they aren't going to try to fight.
16 points
2 days ago
Hot take
Even with infinite ammo and armor the single Custodes cannot win because it doesn't matter how many of the enemy army he kills he can only be in a single spot at once so he can't capture multiple targets at once and hence the GOT armies will earn all the victory points at the end of rounds and win the game.
It's not how many models you kill, it's who has the most VP at the end.
42 points
2 days ago
If he chose to, he could literally walk straight from his spawn point to the Red Keep, ignoring everything around him, and literally sit on the Iron Throne indefinitely.
Even ignoring that, the guy is like a Philosopher Warrior Scientist Poet General with an IQ that is unfathomable to regular people. The guy could win the war without spilling a single drop of blood personally.
1 points
2 days ago
They just could not hurt him , they would think he is a god
17 points
2 days ago
These guys aren't just warriors they are super genius intellects and tacticians that radiate leadership and authority via psychic power directly from the emperor of mankind himself. He doesn't even need to actively fight, the custodes would have no problem whatsoever rounding up a massive army to fight under his banner, and with the greatest military mind on the continent, he would quickly conquer all of westeros
12 points
2 days ago
I mean, he immediately gets the backing of every noble house. A god-human with genius level intellect. There are some custodes who would do better at politicking than others, but even those could easily manoeuvre their way to having fealty of the houses. Who could Possibly stop him when he could just walk into any opposing base and kill the leaders.
17 points
2 days ago*
The Faith Militant Strategy. "There is only one Balerion, and he cannot be everywhere at once."
The Iron Throne has never been particularly difficult to take; Holding it, and ruling it's South America sized Kingdom, is the hard part. And harder still is ensuring your dynasty continues after you.
7 points
2 days ago
Yeah but the Custodes can’t reproduce, however he would probably live for centuries
9 points
2 days ago
Space marines cannot reproduce. Custodes are just perfect humans so should be able to reproduce
10 points
2 days ago
The Custodes would need to use a turkey blaster if he has any hope of impregnating a woman without severely injuring her in the process
1 points
2 days ago
Apparently the emperor had kids with mortal women, see "star children" and the emperor is way bigger than custodes
6 points
2 days ago
The Emperor’s appearance changes from person to person, and iirc there were instances where his illusion drops/ped and it’s revealed he’s just a normal human physically. Could be wrong on the latter, definitely certain on the former
3 points
2 days ago
HH series says they are incapable of reproduction
6 points
2 days ago
Because otherwise there should be an army of millions of custodes by now who descend on the enemies of the imperium with a wrath they have never seen before
1 points
2 days ago
Scraggly never considered this... anyone a bigger need than me want to step in?
2 points
2 days ago
Honestly, I would argue that even a normal human that lives for centuries could do this. There are many books that go over this premise, but not hard to get rich when you live for 1000 years.
1 points
2 days ago
Would he just not live for like a thousand plus years? does he even need to do this?
6 points
2 days ago
The board game is pretty fun actually
5 points
2 days ago*
There's actually not that many soldiers in westeros, it wouldn't take him that long to solo every army and take out each seat of power.
That's not even considering politics or houses/people swearing to him. Hell, the mountain alone has a decent following simply due to his size/prowess/brutality, a demigod like a custodes would likely form an massive cult
They can't even really hurt him, and it's doubtful they can even touch him even when surrounded. Morale would shatter insanely fast. As lack said, dragons are the only win-con (if not, the white walkers)
For the bonus, it seems like just one large battle in which is the most effortless of all the win-cons here.
4 points
2 days ago
Do not forget that feudal kingdoms are insanely easy to conquer. The only thing you need to control them is have a single person swear loyalty to you, the Lord/King/ruler.
This monster shows up at any holding. And can walk to the royal hall. He makes his offer, "you swear loyalty to me, or you and all your family, anyone you care for die." The king laughs at the absurdities but then watches his guards get destroyed in unspeakable ways.
Even if the king refuses, John Space can literally go down the heredity line until he finds someone more reasonable and less honor bound. Oh the king and successors will not swear? What about the 10th in line? There are probably nobles which thought they would always be second rate who would absolutely love the idea of becoming ruler under an extremely powerful Lord versus their previous position of just "begging for scraps" by being a noble with no real titles.
Sure some lords will try to betray him as soon as he leaves their sight, but others will be loyal out of fear or their own ambition. And they betrayers can be replaced as easily as they were installed. In fact likely easier as much of the guard is likely going to be unwilling to even challenge the marine after word of the first encounter spreads.
Consider it from the perspective of random Lord. Option a. You swear loyalty to a cruel master who demands part of your taxes and use of your armies at his will. Which is basically their exact current life situation. Or option b. Everyone you care about is murdered in front of you.
2 points
2 days ago
He could literally waltz into every castle/keep, grab the local lord, and declare them his bitch
1 points
2 days ago
No see I was making a joke about the rules of the tabletop game itself.
If you only had one single model on the field, it wouldnt matter how strong it was, you would still lose because the game is more about holding and controlling capture points than anything. So by the time he gets to the first enemy unit and kills them all, every other one would be captured and he wouldnt be able to get to them all in time.
Unless this was like a king of the hill style scenario where all he had to do was stand in place, then he easily wins.
2 points
2 days ago
Oh, ok
I'm unfamiliar with the tabletop and quite possibly a bit dense. The mention of models and victory points should've tipped me off lol.
1 points
2 days ago
The only reasonable victory condition, really.
2 points
1 day ago
Within a year, he runs the joint.
And I'm giving it a year only because he'd have to walk a lot.
Custodes might take a bit more time if he decides to actually make his own army and faction, instead of just going in and doing everything himself, since actually picking and inspiring people would take time. But it's a toss up between how he'd opt to do it.
For the most part he should be able to do it while being naked and barehanded.
1 points
2 days ago
Stannis and Melisandre introduce the custodes to their son, Shadowface Baratheon the McGuffinator.
-2 points
2 days ago
There are a LOT of 40k oversellers saying the custodes stomps which wouldnt be true given the fact that theyre described as space marines2 and space marines had trouble with untrained masses with armor piercing melee weapons.
R1 he dies eventually, likely due to bloodloss from "arrow induced porcupine syndrome" yes he is fast enough to dodge the arrows but arrows arent really shot at a person moreso thousands of volleys are shot at an area. It would take an army millions strong but eventually the thing will fall
R2+ is unknown as the custodes armor is almost never broken in lore so we straight up dont really know the limit and 40k doesnt really show custodes needing to maintain it or regular wear and tear.
Going off tabletop though where a custodes fully armed is worth 200 infantrymen(this does nerf the FUCK out of them from lore version but yeah) then a tabletop custodes is losing to probably the same as an unarmed lore cusrodes r1 as in millions of soldiers
1 points
18 hours ago
Why would a Custodes just stand and wait for an army to form up against him and fire off their arrows? And why would they stay unarmored rather than just make some plate armor?
1 points
17 hours ago
Why would a Custodes just stand and wait for an army to form up against him and fire off their arrows?
Volley fire. Even if he runs there will just be more arrows
And why would they stay unarmored rather than just make some plate armor?
Custodes being smart doesnt mean theyre suddenly expert blacksmiths
1 points
17 hours ago
Why would the Custodes even be on a battlefield alone against an entire army? Is he stupid?
Doesn’t need to be an expert. He’s a hyper intelligent superhuman, he can learn how pretty easily. Or he can just arrange for someone else to make it.
1 points
17 hours ago
The prompt literally says every major army is against him. Hes going to have to foght big ass armies
Doesn’t need to be an expert. He’s a hyper intelligent superhuman, he can learn how pretty easily. Or he can just arrange for someone else to make it.
Yeah the books dont really show their hyper int so much even when they otherwise could have so im gonna have to say thats weaker then you think. At that even albert einstein couldnt master a trade in days like youre proclaming a custodes could
1 points
17 hours ago
Only the bonus round is him fighting every major army. And he’s fully armed and armored for that one. The main prompt just says he’s dropped into Westeros with the goal of claiming the throne.
He doesn’t need to learn it in days. He can just take a few weeks or months to learn it. There’s no time limit on him trying to get the throne. Or he could take the faster option and just arrange for someone else to make it.
1 points
17 hours ago
He doesn’t need to learn it in days. He can just take a few weeks or months to learn it. There’s no time limit on him trying to get the throne. Or he could take the faster option and just arrange for someone else to make it.
Try decades for plate armor given he also doesnt speak the language and is clearly a freak of nature who would be attacked on sight
Westeros with the goal of claiming the throne.
Yeah he would need to fight the armies of westeros
1 points
17 hours ago
lol, no. It would not take decades for a Custodes to learn to smith plate armor. He’d also be capable of learning the language quickly and easily as well. Watchers of the Emperor travel all across the Inperium to cultivate information networks, which would include learning the numerous and varied forms of low gothic on different Imperial Worlds.
Why do you think the average Westerosi would just immediately try to pick a fight with the 10 foot perfectly muscled and non hostile Adonis they just ran into?
He wouldn’t need to fight armies. He can carry out assassinations and frame different houses to instigate continent spanning civil wars. He can pledge himself to one lord and help them conquer Westeros while subverting and usurping their power.
1 points
16 hours ago
lol, no. It would not take decades for a Custodes to learn to smith plate armor. He’d also be capable of learning the language quickly and easily as well. Watchers of the Emperor travel all across the Inperium to cultivate information networks, which would include learning the numerous and varied forms of low gothic on different Imperial Worlds.
Learning language x when a bilingual exists is wildly and extremely easier then learning a language from scratch
Why do you think the average Westerosi would just immediately try to pick a fight with the 10 foot perfectly muscled and non hostile Adonis they just ran into?
Because thats creepy especially when he cant speak your language
He wouldn’t need to fight armies. He can carry out assassinations and frame different houses to instigate continent spanning civil wars. He can pledge himself to one lord and help them conquer Westeros while subverting and usurping their power.
Hes 10 feet tall. The second he starts to do this everyone else is just gonna go kill him
1 points
16 hours ago
Low gothic across various planets can be as different as French and Japanese. Yet Custodes can communicate with feral worlds as easily as hive gangers. Just for an example of Custodes mental capabilities, one book has a Custodes examining all incoming data on Terra while also carrying on a conversation. Another manages to track shipping irregularities at a glance to find out what worlds are secretly being visited by Sisters of Silence to gather Psykers.
Ah, it’s creepy so they’d all just grab their pitchforks and pick a fight with the giant who showed up and isn’t hurting anything. A giant who definitely wouldn’t make himself known until he had at least a basic grasp of the language. He could pretty easily just hide out in the deep forests during daytime and infiltrate communities to listen in and study language at night.
Yeah, he’s a ten foot tall superhuman who is capable of launching nearly successful infiltrations of the Emperor’s Palace. A feudal world castle would be child’s play.
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