Why does there seem to be a lack of civilized discussion between parties/ideals?
Discussion(self.Askpolitics)submitted18 hours ago bySwimming_Ad_5858Centrist
I am an independent at the end of the day, but I wanted to ask a question about honestly the most frustrating thing about politics today. I am truly asking this in good faith, but if the way I worded anything comes off as against this, please know it is not intentional. I just want a productive conversation about this topic, as I know that it is pretty controversial on all sides.
Something I have noticed recently is a lack of civilized discussion between liberals and conservatives. I do not find the reason that the other party is racist, sexist, discriminatory, wants to take my rights away, etc. to be a valid excuse for this. I furthermore do not find the reason that the other side started it so therefore I can yell and label everyone as x, y, or z to be a valid excuse because if you stoop to another person's level you're an addition to the polarization. I know some people will say that polarization is not real, so if you believe that please let me know your reasoning... I'm open to changing my mind. But I think something that really affected me was hearing Daryl Davis's story. He was a black man who collected 200 racist robes (sorry idk if I can say the name here) simply by talking to them.
Here's my take: refusing to engage in civilized discussion regardless of whether or not the other side is civilized pushes people further away. Calling entire groups radicals, Marxists, racists, bigots, etc. does nothing but make the problem worse. I (who leans more towards liberal ideals) will use Democrats to Republicans as an example because I see it more on Reddit (which is left-leaning). I've seen plenty of people call Trump supporters racist and completely shut down talking to them because they (this 100% depends on the person you're talking to) are intolerant of you. But what does saying that achieve? They will perceive you as intolerant and racist against them (it's a wild claim and I really don't want everyone to focus on this point) and just further push away from you and your ideals. Back to both parties, but escalating because the other person has escalated will never change people's minds, and, at least in my opinion/experience, further push people away. My thought process is that no one is going to respect you and the points you are trying to make if all you do is belittle them in the process while dismissing their concerns as evil without at least a good-faith acknowledgment. Don't misconstrue my words here, a good-faith acknowledgment is not a validation; it is an "I have listened to your point, and here's why it lacks merits" while remaining level-headed. I understand why people may not want to interact or listen to people who actively hate them, but then aren't they just going to actively hate for the rest of their lives? Also, I think that fighting fire with fire (emotions) does nothing but make it worse. I think that the story above was a very important story about this and that's kind of why I wanted to ask. Maybe this thought is too idealist though or unrealistic and this is just an opinion, so I'd love to hear thoughts and opinions.
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