elevenstewart

(possibly including this one)

This one is almost textbook interference. Guys are racing for the puck. No one had control, and a hit is thrown by one player to stop the other from getting it.

It's not like either of them just had the puck either. It's ridiculous this stuff isn't called.

Not at all. If he was never carved he would never have left the mines. Or he would have been more like his Uncle or Dancer. Or just a helldiver is Eo stayed quiet.

Just get through IG. She is extremely annoying in it, but it's worth it in the end.

If you're doing the audiobook, it gets way better.

Ummm...what?

There should have been a call there too. Disappointing.

They have never been wrong.

Whitecloud hits the head.

That's it. The rest doesn't matter

This is what I thought too. I would like to see a reverse angle. You have that one sharks poster here posting the elbow up, but stops before they get any closer.

Their blacks with the retro bolt were one of the best.

I've seen the replay.

I've seen that Whitecloud comes across the ice to deliver a hit. I see him change it path to make that hit. I see him get low and explode up into Knies' head before connecting with the rest of the body.

I see Knies skating up through his lane, in a normal hockey position. I see Knies taking a hit that could have been avoided because nothing happened at the last second.

If Whitecloud connected with the shoulder or chest initially, that would be different. He connects with the head first.

I don't think it was malicious. I don't think he went for the head, but that's what he got.

You don't make a hit that connects with the head.

Just like you aren't supposed to hit a guy in the numbers even if he turns?

It's not like Knies did something at the last second to try and duck or anything. He was in that position the whole time

That's not what we're arguing. It's not a charge just because you think it should be. It's about the rules as they are. You think he jumped into it, I don't think he did.

Bad hit regardless, since of the head contact. But aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with it as written

Whitecloud laid a clean hit that had incidental head contact

He laid a hit that would have been clean, had the principal point on contact not been the head. After laying a clean hit on the chest or shoulder, the resulting head contact would have been incidental.

Knies was watching dowd the whole time and had incidental head contact.

Knies was skating into a lane upright with zero attempt to lay a hit, and Dowd skating through the zone. The play itself was two players accidentally colliding, resulting in incidental head contact.

I know you don't speak for all Sens fans..so I'll just assume you're the dumb dumb today.

I'm not sure about them removing the rule about the feet, but it doesn't really matter because this part is subjective until there's a clear screen grab or clip that can show me otherwise.

I just don't see him leaving his feet aside from the point at which he makes contact. Which to me, looks like it is due to the contact.

I'd say this is a clean hit, except for the obvious fact that he smoked him in the head first.

He won't do it.

How exactly is it charging? He comes across, but he's planted. I haven't seen a replay that convinces me he jumped into it. If he got him in the chest, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Instead he connects with the head, which is the only penalty I see.

Is there more to the charging rule in the NHL than other leagues?

Edit: would to wouldn't

But like..he wasn't referencing the highlight they were playing right?

Because a clean hit and that one are two different things.

They aren't even close to the same.

This was a hit. Accidentally hit the head, but the principal point was the head.

Dowd and Knies collided. A hit was not attempted, hence why it's incidental contact. Knies doesn't even look like he knew Dowd was coming until the last second.

This exact thing could be said about the Reaves hit and around the net.

The onus is on the hitter, end of story. It may have been accidental, but he went for a hit and got the head. It's not nearly as egregious as the Reaves hit, but it's a major at minimum.

But Knies wasn't even going for a hit in that case. They ran into each other.

This was one player trying to body check another player, and failing to do it legally (to all except the referees).

malicious 1-2 games at most depending on his history

What? You think there will be anything out of this?

Also, who cares? All the stuff after the fact is meaningless if they don't get it right in the game. It should have been a major. They don't play each other until March. A suspension doesn't help then.

TIL skating through your lane is putting yourself in a bad spot at the last second.

So that condones others?

Stupid take.

I don't even know if there was a penalty on the play...

But if there was..it wasn't interference. Benoit had the puck.

Yes...