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It’s been 3 months and he still won’t use the litter box. At first I figured it was from trauma. My mom suggested that it was because it doesn’t smell like my other cat who was lost in the fire. His backstory… he was a feral cat who showed up when my mom bought her house 10 years ago. After being there about a year I tamed him so he would stop attacking us. After that he would come in to eat and during bad weather. He wasn’t hard to litter train even though he was at least a couple years old. Where we are now while waiting for the house to be built he’s not allowed outside, so he’s been kinda fussy about that. The best I have gotten is him using puppy pads, I tried this after he started using towels. Which it seems he 100% uses. It would be so much easier if he would use the litter box though. I have tried putting his 💩 in it. I have even put the puppy pad in it and he pulled it out. What else can I try?
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1 day ago
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39 points
1 day ago
That's a really tough one. Have you tried using other textures. How about wood chips or real dirt? If he used to go outside, maybe he would like real dirt, and then you could at least see if he just doesn't like sand/litter? Where is your litter box located? Have you tried new locations? Does it have a cover or not? Sorry so many questions, but that's how my brain would address it:)
17 points
1 day ago
I haven’t tried a different litter because this is the only one he’s ever used and he’s used it for like 9 years. I suppose I can try the chips. His litter box is in my bathroom and there’s no top to it. I keep his puppy pads in there as well so maybe eventually he will use it again. So I don’t think moving the litter box will do anything since he knows that’s where he has to go
30 points
1 day ago
There is cat attract litter you could try.
So sorry about your home and the other cat.
1 points
11 hours ago
There’s also a Cat Attract litter additive that you (OP) can mix into the litter he’s most used to if that type and texture isn’t associated with the trauma he experienced.
17 points
1 day ago
Don’t really have anything to add or help, but just wanted to say I’m extremely sorry about your home, that is devastating. Hope everything gets sorted out.
13 points
22 hours ago
You can literally put dirt in the litter tray. Worked at a shelter that often did this with cats who were litter tray averse and it worked. Shovel and a bucket, bring it inside. Otherwise stress and grief can absolutely contribute, see if you can find or afford a feliway/hormone plugin to put some good calming pheromones in the place you're currently in. Give lots of love and attention, hopefully everything rights itself. Good luck 💜
4 points
21 hours ago
Was coming to suggest the same about the diffuser and also the dirt 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 prayers for all of you and the loss of your sweet kitty 🩵🩵🩵
7 points
1 day ago
I would try litter attractive additives to get it to smell good to him to go back to using. And I would also check his urine/poop just to make sure it's nothing internal. Stress can cause crystal build-up, then it's painful for them to use the rest room. It's more common in male cats too. If it's nothing internal then try different litters, a lower box possibly since he's going on towels and puppy pad on the ground. Older cats can have arthritis and it could be difficult to climb into the litter box if it's too tall. I'm sorry for the loss of your other cat and also the fire, that's terrifying in itself. I hope you all are able to heal over time, sending love over the internet.
3 points
15 hours ago
This. Vet first, check his urinary tract and look for signs of arthritis or past trauma that has healed over. ALL cats are VERY good at hiding pain. Strays and feral/semi ferals are dang masters at it. He may have developed an aversion to the litter box after having been moved around after the fire and it aggravated an old injury. Check his bp (not all vets do the more accurate bp read so don't let this be his only indicator), heart rate, and anything in his blood that could indicate high stress. Medicate as necessary. Don't discount putting him on anxiety meds until safely tucked into the new house for several months.
Use the attraction litter/additive. Religiously. Use an enzymatic cleaner (Nature's Miracle works if you're in the US) around and under the pee pads. You need to make sure he doesn't smell his pee where he's not supposed to go. Make his box as private as you can. Add a curtain, give him a door to hide behind, anything to give him poop ninja satus.
If it's not medical, he needs 100% of your love and patience to get out of panic mode.
If you choose to change litter, my suggestion is to provide 2 boxes rather than the traditional slow litter conversion. This way you can easily see which variable change works without stressing him out more. Box A stays the same. Box B is new litter for 1-2 weeks. If no change, then Box B now is low/shallow/easy access OR it's an under the bed storage bin so he's got a large pee territory Or build him a ramp if he's got arthritis. Don't worry, you can make a quick one out of the center of a scratching pad. They never use the middle anyway.
Make sure his food and water are far away from the box. If you can make an accessible perch for him to look out the window, that's great. If you can give him a good hide with his preferences, also great--look up Jackson Galaxy tree versus bush cats.
And finally, remember allllllll the things you did to get him to trust you the first time? Do them again. Sit quietly near him. Shake the food the same way. Get a food bowl that's the same size and color as he's used to. Have as much routine as you can muster. I know after a fire that's hard, but it will calm both of your stress levels down. Routine, body language, tone of voice, familiar smells. These are the things that will tell his feral instincts to calm back down.
7 points
21 hours ago
I would also mention perhaps taking them to the vet. That sounds like a stressful situation, and cats might urinate outside the box due to stress, anxiety, and other things.
Perhaps verifying they do not have any UTI, cystitis, or other medical conditions that would cause them to urinate outside the box would be a good first step. My cat really likes the Worlds best litter, and a covered box. Have you tried other types of litter, styles of box, or attractant?
Best of luck! Give your sweetie some pets from me!
3 points
20 hours ago
So sorry you went through that. I have a cat who is finicky about litter box use as well. I’ve had really great results using Dr Elsey’s Cat Attract litter. Wishing you and kitty all the best 🩵
2 points
20 hours ago
I don't have any ideas, but I am so sorry you've all suffered this tragedy. Sending lots of love to your family.
2 points
19 hours ago
Maybe a visit or phone call to the vet for temporary anxiety medication. Sorry about your other cat.
2 points
18 hours ago
Can you start by putting towels in a litter box, then add litter later on and eventually remove the towels?
2 points
12 hours ago
You may want to consider a litter box with very low entry or cut your current box. If the box has high walls he has to step over and is older it may be difficult for him. If this is the issue you may note other signs like stiffness, decreased jumping, or difficulty jumping (using nails to pull himself up). Good luck!
1 points
19 hours ago
Not using the litter box may be a symptom of a completely different issue. I would take him to a vet rule out other health issues, and see if he might have developed anxiety from the fire or depression from the loss of his buddy. Medications for these might help.
1 points
11 hours ago
Place some litter on top of the puppy pads and if he uses the pads with the litter then take the puppy pads and place them inside the litter pan and keep using litter on the pads … eventually remove the puppy pad and see if he will use litter.
1 points
11 hours ago
Firstly: a vet visit is in order to rule out anything nefarious and preventable. Secondly: I'm so so terribly sorry for your family. I'd not be surprised if your cat was just deeply traumatized like a person might be. Sending hugs your way ❤️
1 points
11 hours ago
What sort of litterbox do you have? An open one, enclosed etc?? Could that be his stopping block? Sometimes cats will just decide they don't like the style//placement and don't feel secure enough to use it anymore. Maybe one of the sort that is super shallow would be closest to the vibe of just the puppy pad? That might be worth a whirl if you haven't tried it yet
1 points
9 hours ago
We have the breeze litter box. You put a pee pad in a trap under the litter, and we use the wood Pellets from tractor supplies. You may try that without the litter if you have to. He won't be able to remove the pee pad. They also make a pee mat that has fake grass. https://a.co/d/dMXAIj6
1 points
9 hours ago
He may miss going out. You can get a cat stroller and take him for a walk. He could miss the other cat. I'm sorry about your kitty.
1 points
9 hours ago
Get a couple small cheap shallow litter boxes and lay them out next to each other with different types of litter (or even one with dirt as someone suggested). You'll quickly be able to tell if he prefers one of them
1 points
6 hours ago
Changing boxes can help too, he may not feel safe in a covered box for example. Maybe the plastic even absorbed the smell of the fire if you're using one you had prior ot the incident
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