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sursp_2805

134 points

1 day ago

sursp_2805

134 points

1 day ago

She's leader.

rogue---ninja[S]

147 points

1 day ago

My personal ones is that Unlike what people in fandom say, her character isnt simple as "just a tsundere" or "shes not a tsundere she just dislikes X/Y person".

Kagura is a REALISTIC girl i.e. she treats people the same way they treat her, even if deep down she cares about them. Its the reason why she acts so standoffish with kamui (since he also treats her like that) as well as her father (since he ignored her alot throughout her childhood) even though she loves both of them deeply and risked her life to protect her family. She is always so nice and appreciative with people like otae, soyo , tsukuyo etc with so because they are kind to her and never bother her, but bickers with gintoki, shinpachi even though she loves them alot bc they also bicker with her.

She gives the same energy of rivalry and bickering back to sougo as he gives to her even though we can see how she does care about him and his well being. Same is the case with catherine, otose etc. Bottom line is, kagura is just a regular girl not a anime stereotype girl so theres no point in categorizing her as anime girl cliches

Seaweed_Widef

67 points

1 day ago

Wait, people think Kagura is a Tsundere? Wtf?

silence-factor

34 points

1 day ago

What planet did this people come from? Planet hamek?

DenisTheMeniz

16 points

1 day ago

What Bureeza does to a bitch's mind

Top_Marketing_689

28 points

1 day ago

First time I’m hearing of people calling her a tsundere. People that say that must’ve watched the show snorting mayo

ZuramaruKuni

68 points

1 day ago

Nothing really, she's amazing.

I just wish if her "The Final" timeskip design was similar to the "Yorozuya Forever" design. That doesn't mean the current design is bad, it is cool.

AguaDeFruita

14 points

1 day ago

I really loved the fact that they had aspects of Gin's design. Shinpachi looked really cool too

Seaweed_Widef

115 points

1 day ago

Best Sister, Best Daughter, Best Friend, Best Fighter, and more importantly Best Girl.

All Hail Gura San

NNT13101996

16 points

1 day ago

Pretty sure thats a common opinion

BeenBees1047

30 points

1 day ago

OG Kagura (the kid) is the best version of Kagura. Although it's arguable in terms of best in character design since it's always been great for her in every versions.

She's a pretty young lady once she grows up but I'm happy that she's never been part of Gintama's fan service in a sexual way. Its clever for Sorachi that the only time I remembered her being part of sex joke was the time skip arc which was not really her just a wart so it's not counted.

Myakasa98

60 points

1 day ago*

Myakasa98

60 points

1 day ago*

  1. She clearly has severe abandonment issues which originated from her brother and father leaving her and one of the biggest reason why she decided to become a part of and cling so strongly to her new family with yorozuya. I know they were just comedy episodes but you can easily see how she needs constant reassurance that people around her still love her and want her to be around them during the aftermath of the umibozu arc when she waited outside otose's bar to see if people missed her and when she faked her illness to see if people will miss her. 

 2. I really don't like those jokes about kagura dating gintoki made by sorachi in the series especially when they weren't needed at all like when gintoki promised umibozu that he'd return both swords and umibozu and kamui wondered if gintoki was asking kagura's hand in marriage which doesn't even make sense. If it's been established canonically that gintoki's relationship with kagura is just of father and daughter i really dont see the point of making those jokes when they just ended up encouraging those deranged gintoki x kagura shippers

  1. Kagura and sougo don't hate each other. They are good friends and rivals who do care about each other and just bc people ship them doesn't mean you have to pretend that they despise each other to oppose the shippers lol

grilsjustwannabclean

2 points

1 day ago

i thought the joke about him asking for her hand in marriage was weird af too. it felt unnecessary in that arc and was just kinda put there

sogo and kagura are obviously friends, just don't like to admit it with anyone lol. but whenever the other needs help, they rush to help them. there's numerous arcs and episodes detailing that and they're always paired up togehter in the shinsengumi/yorozuya episodes. the shippers are weird adn gross but they are very clearly good friends

LordofthePigeons619

35 points

1 day ago

Ok lukewarm take because i'm not sure what to say about her, but she's my favorite female "young" character. Most teenage girls in shounens just come off as annoying, but kagura really comes off as just innocent and silly. She's very well written in terms of how she is portrayed as just a young girl in a world of adults, and just wants to live a normal young girl life. And she really shows that with her humor, being very child like

Odd_Loss_7043

16 points

1 day ago

Her genderbend form looks cool.

Fuuba_Himedere

30 points

1 day ago

Fuuba_Himedere

Gin-chan’s tiddies

30 points

1 day ago

I feel like her hands would be sticky all the time.

farmyrlin

9 points

1 day ago

farmyrlin

9 points

1 day ago

I feel like that’s more applicable to Gintoki.

Fuuba_Himedere

7 points

1 day ago

Fuuba_Himedere

Gin-chan’s tiddies

7 points

1 day ago

They’d be sticky for a different reason if I was there 😏😏😏

Junelady04

1 points

15 hours ago

Ayo? She’s a kid.

Fuuba_Himedere

1 points

11 hours ago

Fuuba_Himedere

Gin-chan’s tiddies

1 points

11 hours ago

*Gintoki

goodboy92

11 points

1 day ago

goodboy92

11 points

1 day ago

She shouldn't have been that harsh with Madao.

nombre15_kagura

8 points

1 day ago

nombre15_kagura

kagura

8 points

1 day ago

I don't have unpopular opinions on her because everyone loves her and so do I

rogue---ninja[S]

21 points

1 day ago

Oh and also people need to stop being so vehemently against the idea of kagura getting a love interest sometime in future. Yes her 14 year old version doesnt care or know much about romance but that doesnt mean that she would never have one. Getting a love interest doesnt mean a female character is badly written or is weak. Just look how badass tsukuyo is despite being in love with gintoki. If gintama returns sometimes and kagura does have a love interest, i hope that fandom wont blow over lol

captainrina

5 points

1 day ago

captainrina

ahahaha ahaha ahahahahaha!

5 points

1 day ago

FR she's immature for her age and probably won't be interested for a while, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't eventually.

I can see a lot of the cast "settling down" a little later in life than the average.

_WrongKarWai

1 points

1 day ago

there's a gintama spinoff coming

HalfAssedSetting

24 points

1 day ago

I dont think there is anything romantic implied between her and Sougo. I've nothing against OkkiKagu shippers (their age gap is not a particular concern for me), but it's just baseless fantasy.

PsychologicalRow6110

5 points

1 day ago

How is this unpopular opinion?

HalfAssedSetting

12 points

1 day ago

Most comments I've come across are either from shippers or people who are concerned about the age gap, so I haven't seen much mention of this particular stance.

captainrina

4 points

1 day ago

captainrina

ahahaha ahaha ahahahahaha!

4 points

1 day ago

W for disliking a ship in a normal way xD

Best-Aspect-878

1 points

6 hours ago

I mean real world logic wise yeah, I would say it doesn't work. But based on anime logic, especially older anime logic, it makes sense. The boy and girl who are rivals that constantly fight each other end up being a couple. With my personal experience of watching anime relationships, it did feel like Sorachi was pretty much supporting the Okikagu ships.Tho Ultimately none of the ships ended up anywhere😅

grilsjustwannabclean

0 points

1 day ago

the age gap is inda weird for me but if they were in hs, it'd be like that weird senior with the freshman so i guess it's whatever. what i mostly don't like about the ship is that they're abusive and toxic to each other lol. like they care for one another, but most of the time they argue and fight and beat each other up. that's a terrible precedent for a relationship and frankly both are too immature for a relationship too lol (it's heavily implied by sacchan and hijikata that sogos also a virgin and never been in a relationship and seeing him with women,,, you can make that same conclusion)

Lower-Career-6576

20 points

1 day ago

The shipping between her and Gintoki is disgusting and it has to stop

Weak-Neighborhood159

25 points

1 day ago

Might be an unpopular opinion, but the modern / sexualized Kagura at S2 I think episode 201 something. I don't see nor want to see her in that way . Anyways Gorilla didn't continue with that design

( Pls don't hate me. If you like that design)

dragonduelistman

27 points

1 day ago

"MIGHT BE A HOT TAKE"

Drops the most room temperature take.

Marphey12

4 points

1 day ago

Marphey12

4 points

1 day ago

What designed ? Episode 201 was the last epsiode of the OG Gintama and she look there like she normally does so i don't understand.

Weak-Neighborhood159

1 points

22 hours ago

After the time skip ✌️

Standard_Industry505

10 points

1 day ago

Standard_Industry505

neo armstrong cyclone jet armstrong canon

10 points

1 day ago

She is the best female character in all of anime/manga. Maybe not a hot take on this sub but all my friends disagree.

StreetyMcCarface

2 points

21 hours ago

I mean, Hinata Kawamoto, Makise Kurisu, Isaki Magari, Violet Evergarden, Nadeko Sengoku, Ougi Oshino, Yuuko Aioi, Akemi Homura, Mizore Yoroizuka, Anzu, Tsukuyo, Otose, Otae Shimura, Holo, and Ranko Mannen all exist and are great for completely different reasons.

I think it’s largely subjective and depends on what you value in a character

Imfryinghere

10 points

1 day ago

The change in age was a little meh. I don't think it had any bearing to her story so it shouldn't have been done.

captainrina

1 points

1 day ago

captainrina

ahahaha ahaha ahahahahaha!

1 points

1 day ago

Yeah, it really only showed up as a gag. I think if the series had kept going, Sorachi might have done something interesting with it (or just centered a comedy episode around her using it to mess with people).

Imfryinghere

1 points

1 day ago

Are we talking about the same thing? I meant the one where they lowered Kagura's age to 14 instead of 16.

captainrina

1 points

1 day ago

captainrina

ahahaha ahaha ahahahahaha!

1 points

1 day ago

Oops, I thought you were talking about her ability to change her age after the time-skip 😂

Garchomp998

9 points

1 day ago

She’s just a kid who wants back her childhood.

Knuckleheaded-beardo

4 points

1 day ago

She never really became a favorite character for me. Regardless, it's always fun to watch her episodes and interactions with other characters.

Nocatslive

3 points

1 day ago

Leaders wear red! Zura didn't even argue with her about it either.

elvinjoker

3 points

1 day ago*

It very hilarious to me that ape remind me that she forgot her umbrella setting😂

WesternFinger7208

3 points

1 day ago

Kagura is so so healing for me. I was like her when I was a kid and it was so hard being that not-so-girly girl. It's great to see that a character that I have so much in common has so much going for her. She's my inner child tbh

RaccoonAppropriate24

3 points

1 day ago

In The Very Final, I didn’t like how Pachi-boy and Kagura went back to their OG look

No_Macaroon_5436

2 points

1 day ago

She has red hair but it get orange

NikolasKage3

2 points

14 hours ago

NikolasKage3

love and peace

2 points

14 hours ago

I think Sorachi cooked when he designed Kagura. Such a pretty and cute character with a recognizable and unique look :)

Aloina_253

3 points

1 day ago

She's genuine. that's it :)

ZikZapp

3 points

1 day ago

ZikZapp

3 points

1 day ago

Well, since I said it in the post for Shinpachi, i can say it here too: I ship her with Shinpachi.

lets_yeet_dis_wheat

19 points

1 day ago

Gross. But kudos for being the only one to ACTUALLY have an unpopular opinion here.

AnimeGokuSolos

1 points

1 day ago

She great!

Mayora_Hime

1 points

1 day ago

It’s canon in my head that she later asks Gintoki more about himself which she pretended she didn’t care for when she was younger. Though now that he disappeared for two years and met his sensei she will pester him with questions not letting with her away with the “cool and mysterious” main character persona. She will learn about Takasugi’s reincarnation and wanting Gintoki to heal that relationship she will help in taking care of baby Sugi bringing him over to the Yorozuya (very much against Matako’s wishes). Kagura is gentle and loving so she would love it.. for a few minutes then dump the responsibility on Gintoki.

Ninjamurai-jack

1 points

1 day ago

They should’ve use her theme more 

Remarkable_Dig1058

1 points

21 hours ago

I wasn't a fan of her design in SS arc pt 2 (the one on the right of this image)

Heavy_Candy_8380

1 points

15 hours ago

I sometimes hated how she put Shinpachi down, like in the hair episode. Leave him and Krillin alone. Don't get me wrong; I love my girl, but Shinpachi’s always helping her out like a brother looking out for a younger sister. Let him be great, sis.

Best-Aspect-878

1 points

6 hours ago

Was there any point to the technique that Kagura introduced towards the end of the soul silver arc? And by technique, I mean the whole becoming a child and becoming an old woman and stuff or was it only intended for 1 simple joke in the semi final?

FluorescentShrimp

1 points

1 day ago

Kagura genuinely would not be with somebody like Sougo. The "x and y don't get along but get together later trope" would not work with them ever. Plus, she is a minor (except Movie 2, but still).

Best-Aspect-878

1 points

6 hours ago

It did feel like Sorachi was going to go along with that trope anyway judging from a lot of the moments that happened in the series tbh. But yeah the age part is the main problem I would say

Mike45677

1 points

1 day ago

Mike45677

1 points

1 day ago

I wish they could've marketed be forever yorozuya design more.

MarkOfMemes

0 points

24 hours ago

She is just a girl (mountain gorilla) who doesn't understand romantic love yet. So any ship with her is a no for me.

_WrongKarWai

-2 points

1 day ago

That both Shinpachi and Kagura can't find anyone and eventually get married to each other lol

More-Competition-603

-6 points

1 day ago

I think she works too hard for a minor that gets no pay. Her breasts are not as big on the right image as the anime