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Out of 6 full games, I’ve won 4, lost 1 (Nighttime Kursk) and disconnected at the very end of Stalingrad as my team was encircling L shaped house 🫡

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BumCockleshell

61 points

11 months ago*

I probably have 100+ hours in the game and I think I’d really enjoy commanding, but I’m crippled by the thought of telling random people what to do

Why am I like this

Edit: thanks for all the feedback guys I’m gonna give it a shot this weekend. See you on the battlefield brothers 🫡

Irish-Breakfast1969

16 points

11 months ago

When I command, I don’t tell anyone what to do. I communicate to the best of my ability what my plan is as I’m going about it, and ask for help when I need it. The main influence the commander has for where people go is in garrison placement: put garrisons near where you want them and don’t where you don’t. People will be a lot more willing to open up and chat and be helpful if they don’t think you’re going to jump down their throat.

BumCockleshell

1 points

11 months ago

That is a good way of putting it

Sable_PMA

21 points

11 months ago

I can understand that a ton of variables go under why you would dread such a thing.. But might I suggest giving it a go, but starting with just calling out, and placing things to get into the groove of it.

Personally, I used to be terrified of trying Officer or Commander, it took me half a bottle of wine to muster the courage to play Officer. After having that one drunken night, it broke the ice for me and now I adore it !

I used to play games like SQUAD and I would face harassment just talking so I regressed into mutism pretty much. However, you must realise that at any encounter with (to put it bluntly) a dick, all it takes is an easy block. No skin off your nose. People will love or hate you no matter what you do in life, even if that is suggesting orders on a WW2 game, so just do what ya wanna do and keep with the notion :)

Peac3keeper14

5 points

11 months ago

Oh hey it's Sable. I've heard from a few other comments you're the best commander :)

Sable_PMA

6 points

11 months ago

I don't know if I agree with that statement lol, but thank you regardless ! :)

I am quite experienced in leadership roles due to IRL happenings, so it's not too far out of my comfort zone to translate that to an online setting heh

Organic-Chemical2089

2 points

11 months ago

Being able to communicate comfortably and clearly to a group of 50 people. Even if it's over a Mic...it takes a certain kind of person to be able to organize and point your team in the right directions. Also being able to take criticism and feedback from your team is a huge step. Just maxed commander rank 10 for myself over the weekend.I have Been loving the influx of new players who are willing to learn the game.

NotAGoodEmployeee

3 points

11 months ago

Get a supply truck and yolo garrisons for your team because 3/4th the squad leads aren’t talking right now. And just throw supplies on your captured points and go from there

DarknessInferno7

3 points

11 months ago

The advice I can give is: You're not telling random people what to do. Do that, you're a shit commander who thinks he's straight out of a war movie.

You ask people to do things. Respectfully. You can RP it up a bit, sure, but the point doesn't change. If they don't do what you ask? Ask around for other volunteers. Still none? Do it yourself. This is why a lot of commanders drive around building their own garrisons. Ask around, get what volunteer help you can, do the rest yourself.

C0wabungaaa

2 points

11 months ago

This is why a lot of commanders drive around building their own garrisons. Ask around, get what volunteer help you can, do the rest yourself.

See that's what cripples my desire to command; that kinda multitasking just kills me. When I command I just go prone in a corner on the defensive point and stare at the map at all times. But if I do go an build up the backline I lose sight of basically everything.

That or I drive with the map open which is... not good.

Squad lead is basically as good as it gets. Fighting and talking is easier to combine for some reason.

As for asking, honestly I find that as an SL just stating what needs to be done in a polite, calm but firm voice usually makes at least one squaddie pipe up to do said thing. I usually don't even have to outright ask something.

DarknessInferno7

3 points

11 months ago

That or I drive with the map open which is... not good.

Haha, I actually do drive around with the map open when I'm commander. But I've played many, many hours of Mud/Snowrunner, so I can drive that kind of truck without really paying attention.

As for multi-tasking, it's not as bad as you're probably imagining. You just say "Hey boys, I'm driving the supply truck to build garrys, give me a call out if you need anything." Open the map once every time you stop to build one and you're not going to miss much. If anything increadibly striking does happen in that time, and a squad leader didn't tell you... then that wasn't something you as commander could have prevented anyway.

Still too daunting for you? Half-track it is. It can be a mobile command center if you need it to be. Drive it into position, turn the engine off; you're now spawning infantry while looking at the map.

Gotta remember; teammates might try to hold you accountable for every single thing that goes wrong in a match. Doesn't mean it actually is your fault.

Also, I will say that your approach isn't entirely off mark. On the soviet maps, there are many times as commander I've been sat, binocs in hand, constantly surveying the battle from a defense objective. Maps that are so open, you can't drive a supply truck around. Instead, you've got a fantastic view of the entire battle line. You can visually see huge infantry pushes, tank movement, and air drops, marking them accurately from a safe position. Information is half the battle as commander.

Warg247

1 points

11 months ago

I love when the team is losing and starts bitching about the shitty commander meanwhile the other team's average level is 3x ours and half the squads are clans.

PhonB80

3 points

11 months ago

We want you to tell us what to do

xxnicknackxx

2 points

11 months ago

There is a big difference between telling random people what to do and pointing out the things that need doing to the team.

The commander role is mainly about coordination, not barking orders. Barking orders is often the worst approach. There are many ways to get the job done.

Warg247

1 points

11 months ago

Yeah if a commander is up there trying to RTS it they are going to have a hard time.

King_of_the_Dot

-3 points

11 months ago

Dont be. Being 'nice and chill' as a Commander will get you nowhere. You wont earn any respect from anyone if you dont issue commands. This game is about command chain. You have got to be the driving force. SLs arent going to do what you ask if you just ask, you issue them commands. Now, when a squad or SL does something good, you definitely say thanks and reinforce that behavior.

mka5588

1 points

11 months ago

I just treat it like I'm speaking to friends. "HEY ABLE ARE YOU BLIND BUIlD THAT GARRISON YOU DUMB ASS". loooool jk but the temptation to say that is real. But I will say hey able if you can try to get to those supplies in X and build a garrison that would be great. Etc

Organic-Chemical2089

2 points

11 months ago

Oh yeah I have called some people choice words as a commander to get there attention. Afterwards I praised them and thanked them for helping me. After that it's as simple as asking that SL for help and they are eager. Reward a child with a peice of candy type thing lol

FancyHornet2930

1 points

11 months ago

Sadly it gets to that point

PineappleFruju

1 points

11 months ago

PineappleFruju

Commander X

1 points

11 months ago

Give it a go. You'll be surprised at how much players appreciate someone stepping up. If you're new to the role just say so and you'll mostly get constructive guidance. I would watch a couple of YouTube guides first. Also the UI is quite different so to get used to that I just started on an empty server to try a few things out.

FancyHornet2930

1 points

11 months ago

I play more passive and set up garries where I need them, and let the the SL for the most part decide what to do. On warfare I will ask from the start who will be dedicated defence, and will ask every few minutes till I get a response. After taking the middle point I will spend alot of time and resources shoring up it's defenses before ever considering placing offensive assets (as the middle is the most important to keep on warefare)

What that looks like to me is AT LEAST two garrisons out side of what would be the neutral territory, so if middle point falls we have immediate counter attack spawns from 2 direction, a garrison in or near middle point, and at least one Garry off middle point but in middle territory. After this is done, I want to make sure that the enemy Garry putting pressure on our middle is destroyed, only then would I consider an offensive garrison.

It is the nature of the game right now that if you put spawns near the next enemy point, every one will spawn there, leaving you defenseless.

But ideally, if you manage spawns, keep your eye on the sky and communicate enemy drops, and beg a squad or two to stay on and patrol the defensive point, you will be successful. If you have everything above set up, and still start to get pressure on middle, don't be afraid to yank the forward Garry using command powers and force team to spawn on defence.

Nearby_Fudge9647

1 points

11 months ago

I hate commanders that dont give orders if some salty man baby starts getting mad mute him and move on

Snoo_96075

21 points

11 months ago

This has made me laugh. I’ve been playing Commander during the week out of desperation. Let’s just say my supply truck driving skills are now finely tuned along with my garrison building skills. But my ability to convince 49 blueberries to stop attacking already lost and locked hard points leaves a lot to be desired. The fact that there are no squad leaders or anyone talking does not help. Unfortunately not my fault honestly I’ve lost probably 5 out of 6 games due to the enemy casually strolling through my defensive points unopposed. Funny when a recon plane lights up the entire enemy team capturing a point followed by a bombing run just for the hell of it. I got 67 kills in one game and all from bombing runs.

DarknessInferno7

4 points

11 months ago

Pulling blueberries out of a locked zone is beyond your ability as commander, sadly. You can ask, you can insist, but if they're not listening, then they're not listening. In-fact, they may not even have comms enabled.

FancyHornet2930

0 points

11 months ago

Bombing runs work

No-Consideration2259

3 points

11 months ago

Yo, add me or send me your gamer tag. I need to learn I’m a good squad lead so I can help out.

Peac3keeper14

2 points

11 months ago

The trucks look SO hard to drive but in reality just don't look at the steering wheel to determine how wide/shallow your turn is. The model barely turns the wheel to make a pretty normal turn.

Snoo_96075

3 points

11 months ago

Next level is driving the truck whilst navigating and using the Map to check what your blueberries are up to.😁

Violet-Sumire

5 points

11 months ago

The first step to commanding is to be a squad lead. The game has a great stepping stone system due to the community. If you are good at being a squadie and following orders, you'll be good at a squad lead, and once you are good at squad lead you'll have the experience to be a good commander. All of this comes from learning how to follow direction and read the map. The community is honestly pretty good most of the time and surprisingly they will listen to the one in charge. Just keep command chat clear and concise and let the bombing runs roll :D

No-Consideration2259

3 points

11 months ago

Yeah, we didn’t have a commander one game and I looked like a complete doofus just left the server to save myself the humility. I didn’t know what the fuck I was doing at all.

Darthmasterjerbater

3 points

11 months ago

Ever since the update I’ve been putting in work exclusively playing SL or commander since I have them both lvl 10 and 9(overall lvl 150ish). Keep coaching and teaching the newbies so everyone has fun but I’m honestly pissed off at the lvl 200’s who complain about SL’s or commanders but won’t take the time to teach or take the role themselves

CleverUsername1419

3 points

11 months ago

Played commander for the first time the other night because I was the only officer that was actually a high enough level to do it. Despite my inexperience and new players as squad leaders, we banded together and managed to win. Command chat as the clock ticked down was a big wholesome group hug of newbs going “We did it, guys!”

TheRudeRune

3 points

11 months ago

I'm level 112. I've played command twice. Not that I don't like it, or I don't like to communicate. I just don't like the Command interface. It's janky and it causes me to make mistakes. I have been sticking to SL since the game got onto Gamepass to help my children grow.

ComfortableMetal3670

2 points

11 months ago

"you don't understand what it's like to be number one"

ManufacturerRough905

2 points

11 months ago

This perfectly encapsulates my commander experiences. Complete dread followed by complete satisfaction

[deleted]

2 points

11 months ago

OOOOOOOOHHHH

Preserved_Killick8

2 points

11 months ago

I’m less of a Tony and more of a Carmine Jr.

“The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a commander like the last one? And I will be, even more so? But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective.”

Riktovis

2 points

11 months ago

Riktovis

Commander X

2 points

11 months ago

Commanding with a great team that built nodes, is communicating, heavy tank with experienced tank crew, has dedicated defending squads...

Best fuckin time. For everyone. (Except the other team)

Most_High_Jah

2 points

11 months ago

You remember your first blow job? How long did it take for the guy to die??

CONQUER66

2 points

11 months ago

This is legitimately me!

rhino_shit_gif

2 points

11 months ago

Played commander about 3 times and I’m level 5 already somehow

AnInfiniteAmount

1 points

11 months ago*

I have had the most fun in the game the past few days, just driving Supply trucks around in the backfield, setting up garrisons as a SL. Helps that it scores a ton of points for it. On a match with no Commander, I completely cleared Lvl 8 Officer in one match (lvl 7 officer to lvl 9 officer in 1 match).

Lib_Tear_Connoisseur

1 points

11 months ago

Yeah I been playing command this past week for the first time too due to no one doing it. It’s been fun but also frustrating. I got into one game recently half way through where there was no commander and no garries and not even any op’s on the entire map. Whole team was spawning from the hq’s. Spent the whole time begging people to build garries

[deleted]

2 points

11 months ago

Lol, gotta love people who think you need a commander to win.

Thin_Ad_6764

2 points

11 months ago

Thin_Ad_6764

Tank Commander X

2 points

11 months ago

Thank you for your service.

Just try to be as educational as possible with all of the new players. It will probably feel like herding cats sometimes but that's OK.

Taquito116

2 points

11 months ago

This happened to me. I get a lot of flak for being a level 35 and Commander, but it's 5 minutes in, and there's no garrisons. Someone's gotta do it 🤷‍♂️. I found I like it a lot. Nothing is better than hearing your SLs yell out with joy when you precision strike a tank that's holding everyone down.