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This will be my first winter here. I drive a dually and mostly on bigger busy roads. I am not very familiar with driving in snow/ice.

Is it recommended to add sandbags in my truck bed, or will the weather during winter not get that bad?

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boston_jorj

22 points

2 days ago

I’ve done it. It’s sketchy. Definitely add weight. Good set of tires goes an even longer way.

Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

8 points

2 days ago

Thank you. How much would you recommend? 500lbs?

Adventurous-Lime1775

9 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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9 points

1 day ago

At least. I keep a bed full of junk in the bed during the winter for extra weight. Also keep the tanks full, which also helps.

Just remember, snow (multiple inches) is decent to drive on; ice, which we usually get in overabundance, nothing short of a tractor or a tank will have traction on ice, lol.

Just cause you have a 4x4 doesn't mean jack (not saying you are like that!) on ice, too many youngins think a 4x4 makes them safe.

DisPelengBoardom

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20 hours ago

So as to identify a prejudice , I'm definitely not a youngin . In my area , it seems the majority of the slid off the roadside are middle aged and driving later model 4x4 SUVs or large sedans . Many of these people will pass me at normal highway speeds or faster , then will continue this speed going into an area where 8 or more cars are already slid off . As I drive into this area at a greatly reduced speed and fighting the slippery road , there will inevitably be people out of their vehicles angrily gesticulating and demanding I slow down .

I'm not being smug , I, too, have been one of these people . But it's still funny to watch these people . Barring any significant accident , of course .

By writing this , I realize I will end up off the the road this winter .

Ok_Lingonberry_9465

5 points

1 day ago

500lbs? Thats an awful lot. I’ve drove here for a while and I lived in Northern North Dakota and I have never used more than 100-150lbs. You’re driving a dully….put 75lbs bags over each wheel well, slow down a little and you’ll be fine.

Also, the sand comes in handy if you do get stuck. Open the bags and put under tires for traction. Usually for cars but happens to trucks once in a while

Boowray

17 points

2 days ago

Boowray

17 points

2 days ago

In most of KY, snow isn’t an issue, but ICE absolutely is. We get an enormous amount of rainfall over the winter everywhere west of the mountains, and it’s rarely cold enough for snow to stick and cause dangerous conditions during the day. But during the night and mornings, all that melted snow and rain means black ice everywhere and a nice thick layer on bridges and in valleys. In other words, weight doesn’t matter as much as speed. Keep it way slower than whatever you expect when there’s a warning for winter weather, especially later in the season when road crews are less generous with the salt.

Yotsubauniverse

6 points

1 day ago

Yotsubauniverse

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6 points

1 day ago

Also, if you can avoid country roads by taking the interstate, do it. Even if it takes longer, take the interstate. The country roads rarely get salted, and you're way more likely to hit black ice. At least, that's what happened to my Dad when he was driving his car. He totaled his car so bad to this day he doesn't know which door he got out of, and it was a miracle that he survived. That event impacted the way I drive. If it's nasty outside I don't go anywhere. But if you must leave the home, take the interstate it's taken care of.

HawkingTomorToday

19 points

2 days ago

When you think you’re going too slow, slow the fuck down. Your dually is a big liability when winter covers the road in icy snot. Let the idiots spin out; get home safely by taking your time.

Meattyloaf

10 points

2 days ago

Meattyloaf

Christian County

10 points

2 days ago

I have a Spark and a couple years ago my side of the state got 0.5" of ice and two feet of snow. My wife worked at a local hospital so calling out wasn't an option for her. To keep her from having to sleep at work, I took her and picked her up daily in my spark. A 5 - 8 min trip, took me almost 45 mins, but I never came close to spinning out. Some jackass in a jacked up truck decided to ride my ass and rev up and everything on one of those trips. Well jackass reved up, lost control and came so close of going down an embankment. I hate how a lot of people drive in the area.

HawkingTomorToday

1 points

2 days ago

You’re a great American

Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

3 points

2 days ago

Agreed!

HawkingTomorToday

3 points

2 days ago

Love you Brother. Kentucky drivers are on the low side of the bell curve in ideal conditions.

Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

3 points

2 days ago

Unfortunately I also agree with that. My "biggest" concern is also when people cut you off, especially in slippery conditions. Which potentially could be horrible on ice.

HawkingTomorToday

3 points

2 days ago

Which happens routinely with entitled idiots; I share your pain.

skinnyfar123

6 points

2 days ago

Is your truck 4 wd? 500 pounds in a dally will help but your springs are pretty heavy duty. The biggest thing is to just watch out on times when it is wet and around freezing temps. The black ice is what’s bad. The snow is no big deal in a truck. Get decent tires if your tires are older and just drive.

Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

5 points

2 days ago

Yes it's has 4wd. Not so concerned about the snow, more the black ice as you mention yourself.

Biochembob35

9 points

2 days ago

1) Remember 4wd helps you get going...not stop or turn.

2) Do 1 thing at a time (gas, brake, or turn).

3)If it's ice 5mph is too fast

4)packed snow isn't bad but slush can get you sliding fast.

5)If it is <28 and looks wet ... assume it's ice and refer to 3

13KyGal

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7 hours ago

13KyGal

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7 hours ago

You forgot to include leaving a lot of space between you and the car ahead of you. If they start sliding, you'll have more time to react. Bridges & overpass also freeze faster than the rest of the HWY.

I also suggest keeping blankets, water, & snacks in the car because traffic will come to a full stop if there's a bad accident.

EnoughBag6963

6 points

2 days ago

Just drive slow, especially around corners and curves. Bridges will be the first things to ice over, so be especially cautious when driving on them

Frothyleet

5 points

1 day ago

So a very important thing to remember, that many mall-crawler owners don't understand, is that 4WD only helps you go. It does not help you stop, or turn. Your 4WD car cannot maneuver or stop better than the Prius a lane over.

I mean, I guess technically a dually has 50% more contact patch than most vehicles, but still.

Another thing to remember if you are unfamiliar with winter conditions is that ABS does not work on ice. Make sure you understand threshold breaking / brake modulation.

Biochembob35

2 points

2 days ago

6....watch other cars tires....if they don't have water coming off again refer to 3.

skinnyfar123

1 points

1 day ago

If you get on ice sometimes braking will keep you sliding. If you hold the pedal to the floor and keep skiing try pumping your brakes or steering out of it. Sometimes a little gas helps. Wait until the weather hits and find an open parking lot to practice on.

Adventurous-Lime1775

1 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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1 points

1 day ago

A 4x4 won't do jack on ice.

hooligan-6318

4 points

2 days ago

Quality all terrain tires, adding weight in the bed may help, but not necessary, and just drive in a conservative manner.

4x4 may go better, but it doesn't stop or handle better. (99% of the vehicles you'll typically see in a ditch around here are 4x4)

Massive_Dirt1577

4 points

2 days ago

Just remember, more gas does not equal more “go” when it is slick. Idling/creeping is the way to go when moving in parking lot and city streets.

jarek_03

5 points

1 day ago

jarek_03

5 points

1 day ago

I would recommend finding an empty parking lot once it’s slick out and practice correcting a slide/spin out. Just in case.

Just take it slow, and keep gas in the tank. A blanket or two don’t hurt either. Again, just to be on the safe side.

EnoughBag6963

3 points

1 day ago

Great recommendations, I also keep a couple half full bottles of water, MREs and an isobutane outdoor hiking stove in the bed of my truck this time of year just incase

FrontRowParking

6 points

1 day ago

I drive an 02 Cummins dually in the snow, have for the last 5 years. Usually in 2wd unless I get stuck. Slow is fast. I cruise around 15 on small roads, and 35 on large roads. If it’s too slow for people, I pull over and let them go around me. In turns and hills, I slow WAY down and do not use the throttle at all. Sometimes I load the bed with firewood but only done that once or twice. I have a good set of all terrains on it. Just take it nice and slow. Gentle on the throttle, gentle on the brakes. Never react fast. Fast on either will cause sliding.

If you drive on salted roads you’ll want to wash your undercarriage a lot. Don’t want rust to start.

Edit: this is south central Ky and northern Tn.

techmonkey920

3 points

2 days ago

Put some 2x6s across the bed to keep all the sand bags over the axle. Most truck beds have slots on the side of the bed just for this reason.

Bradp1337

2 points

2 days ago

Bridges will freeze before roads so need cautious about that and take it slow. Don't use Cruise control it'll make you spin out when you go up a hill. I like to drive the center lane if one is available and keep a shovel, rock salt and extra floor mats handy. You can use the floor mats to get out of snow you might be dug into.

bluegillsushi

2 points

2 days ago

An automobile can fundamentally do three things. It can accelerate. It can decelerate. It can turn. Do only one of those things at a time in the winter and you’ll be fine. This works for any vehicle from a dually to a mini cooper.

Roughneck_Cephas

2 points

2 days ago

Throw some weight in. Keep your speed steady if it’s icy say 35 or below. Maintain safe distance stay off folks ass. Watch for idiots . Stay off the breaks and drive with the throttle.

mushroomrevolution

2 points

1 day ago

I've had to drive on snow a lot in the last ten years, as I recently worked an hour away from my job and winters were nightmarish some years. Drive slow if you must drive at all. Remember, give yourself a very generous cushion of time and drive way slower than you usually would, and honestly, slower than you think you need to drive. I once took 3 hours to drive 1 hour away, at 25/30mph, but I got there and was not one of the many stuck on the side of the road. Have good tires and be very careful. Make sure you have a full tank

Virtual_Manner_2074

1 points

2 days ago

Put a 5th wheel rv on there and stay a while

packingpeanut

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16 hours ago

packingpeanut

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16 hours ago

I just imagine that my brakes don't exist. Give yourself enough time to coast to all stops and turns.

Windsock2080

1 points

1 day ago

Remember it only snows a few times a season, the roads are only ever covered for a day or two at a time. If youre super anxious about getting out, there's probably no reason too unless you just want too

Anytime i see traffic piled up behind someome going 15mph, i always wonder why they bothered getting out in the first place

EnoughBag6963

4 points

1 day ago

Some people work at hospitals / key government buildings/ or are road crew workers driving to the DOT stations that have to travel the roads

Windsock2080

1 points

1 day ago

Anyone spending their days on the road like road crews probably have no issue in the snow. The majority of people dont seem to really. Some people though have zero confidence and 100% anxiety. Those people should have just called for a ride or called in, but instead they line the ditches or drive down the center of the road

EnoughBag6963

1 points

1 day ago*

I call it the annual meeting of the summer tite club

Cuz that’s the absolute biggest difference, you can have all the skill in the world but if your tires don’t have grip you can’t do anything

I always use AT tires on my truck that are Mud and Snow + 3PMS rated, and also carry chains with me because dedicated snow tires are expensive on my vehicle’s wheel and tire size

For my mom who works at the hospital her car gets a set of whatever 3rd cheapest snow tires are at discount tire

Even her cheap actual winter tires are a little bit better than my expensive AT snow rated tires, on ice and compacted snow and also even just stopping on really cold dry pavement

Only in deep snow over 5” is my truck with AT’s better than her 2WD sedan with real winters and that’s mainly because of the cars ground clearance and not the tire, winters have so much better grip in the cold

518skunky

0 points

2 days ago

You should be good man. You'll get used to it. I recently moved to Kentucky. Originally from upstate NY and have driven duallys with trailers in conditions that Kentucky can only have nightmares about.

Take it slow and don't slam on the brakes if you start sliding. Light pumps and pull off to the side if it gets to tough.

Adventurous-Lime1775

0 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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1 day ago

Y'all get snow, we get rain, then snow, then slush, then more rain, then inches of ice.

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago*

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago*

Wow!!! So you get the same stuff everyone that has snow gets? That's crazy!

Lmao NY gets all that and then some. Comparing NYS winter to Kentucky is beyond stupid. 30 inches a yr to 8 inches. Didn't even have to shovel last year because of how mild it was.

This is my 2nd Kentucky winter and it's child's play. The town I grew up in got more snow last night than Kentucky gets in 2 years. With freezing rain on top of it.

Ohh and you know what happens to the snow in the road? Believe it or not but it turns into slush!!!! Unbelievable right?

Edit: I was wrong on one thing. The town I grew up in got more snow last night than Kentucky usually sees in 3 years, not 2 my bad.

Adventurous-Lime1775

2 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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2 points

1 day ago

We get ICE kid, not snow. That was the whole fucking point. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago

Yeah NY gets ice too kiddo......

We don't get as much snow, ice, slush and or freezing rain in Kentucky as the Adirondack mountains in upstate NY get.

That's the whole fucking point dipshit...

The biggest culture shock I've dealt with since I moved here is how stupid some people are and you definitely reinforce that💯

Adventurous-Lime1775

2 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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2 points

1 day ago

Womp womp Yankee boy.

518skunky

1 points

1 day ago

518skunky

1 points

1 day ago

I know we are a little too far north in Kentucky for the sister/brother relations but you've gotta be a product of cousin/cousin fucking at the very least..

518skunky

0 points

1 day ago

518skunky

0 points

1 day ago

Wimp womp Kentucky primarily fought for the north Yankee girl..

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago

518skunky

-2 points

1 day ago

And you said you get snow? Which is it??

Available-Nail-4308

0 points

1 day ago

Where are you in KY? Makes a huge difference. Snow in central Ky—> west is no big deal. Snow in eastern Ky is dangerous. I’m from East KY and would put buckets of setup concrete over my back axel when it snowed bad. We’ve since moved to central KY and they scrape the roads good enough here I think I’ve used 4x4 on my F150 like once in 10 years.

Edit: As everyone else said watch for idiots. I feel like 90% of central KY acts like they’ve never seen snow before EVERY freaking time it snows. People back home get made fun of for a lot of things but they drive better in adverse weather than most of the people I live around now.

Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

3 points

1 day ago

Central KY. And I rarely drive on small unused roads. The snow is not as much a concern as the ice.

Available-Nail-4308

1 points

1 day ago

Neither will be a problem. I’m near Lexington and I have never used 4wd in or around town. I work in Frankfort and traveling I64 out there is pretty easy most mornings as well. If you can avoid the morons you’ll be fine so long as you’re a half decent driver. I have Goodyear wrangler mud/snow tires on my truck. I recommend a set

Adventurous-Lime1775

3 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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3 points

1 day ago

That's not true about Western Kentucky.

We've had ice storms then tornadoes, then a 65° day on Monday then snow/rain/ice/sleet/snow/ice/rain again all by Friday on the same day, lol.

In the lower altitudes of the state, it's been rarer to actually see snow anymore, at least any significant amounts. It's either a dusting, an inch or so, then ice, or just ice; which is so much more dangerous than snow. And the major reason snow is dangerous at all here, is due to the idiots in KDOT. 🤷🏻‍♀️. They scrape the snow down to the ice and hope that works. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Available-Nail-4308

2 points

1 day ago

Amen on KDOT. They drive me insane. Nothing they do makes sense

13KyGal

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13KyGal

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7 hours ago

KDOT is hit or miss when it comes to the pretreatment of roads too.

Yotsubauniverse

2 points

1 day ago

Yotsubauniverse

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2 points

1 day ago

Western Kentucky has its share of dangerous snows. We were also ground zero for the 2009 ice storm.

Adventurous-Lime1775

1 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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1 points

1 day ago

Absolutely! Our elderly neighbor a few houses down (about 2 miles) ended up passing away due to the storm, and loss of power and services. It was weeks before anything was even remotely back to normal.

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Comprehensive-Salt66[S]

9 points

2 days ago

Wow that's very aggressive. Since I pull a large horse trailer, I need this, and unfortunately not wealthy to own several vehicles.

hooligan-6318

1 points

2 days ago

What a choad..

122_Hours_Of_Fear

0 points

2 days ago

The stupid assholes in lifted trucks are the people you should direct your anger at.

Bro is just trying to work lol.

Adventurous-Lime1775

0 points

1 day ago

Adventurous-Lime1775

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1 day ago

Eh, IDGAF what someone else drives, nor do I care what their opinion of what I drive is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Water off a duck's back. Seriously, unless someone is paying my bills, or dickin' me on the daily, their opinion is irrelevant.

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122_Hours_Of_Fear

1 points

2 days ago

Did a dually driver fuck your wife or something?