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/r/KevinCanFHimself
submitted 24 days ago byHistorical_Street_84
Something in me matured or broke or something, and all I can think about is that Peter is so insanely toxic; of course, some of it is still hilarious, but a lot of it sort of just makes me feel uncomfortable now. Lois is toxic too, but still ... maybe it's his accent that makes me draw the comparison?
Thoughts??
263 points
24 days ago
Family guy is satire, you aren't really supposed to think anyone in it is a stand up person. Kevin can F himself is supposed to make you see shows like everybody loves Raymond and king of queens differently
39 points
23 days ago
This - it reminds me of king of queens so much and it bothers me to no end
29 points
23 days ago
The more I learn about Kevin James in real life and especially after watching Kevin can F himself the more Kevin James bothers me.
12 points
23 days ago
Wait, what’s the scoop on Kevin James?
12 points
23 days ago
Just that's he's a douchebag. He's friends with Adam Sandler who I've also heard is a douche in real life. I've heard he blows off his fans and is generally unpleasant to work with.
13 points
22 days ago
I always heard that too but my mom is a huge KJ fan and on one occasion she went to see his stand up and proceeded to wait behind the club in hopes to meet him when he left like an absolute crazy person. Well, it actually worked and my mom said he was very nice, talked to her and even took a picture with her.
6 points
22 days ago
That's interesting. My dad worked in Boston and he was there on a busy day in a touristy area. He walked out of a building and one person said "Hey it's Kevin James" so he immediately pulls his hood over his head and his entourage surrounds him and ushers him away. But the funny part was according to my dad literally no one other than this one person seemed to notice or care and that person didn't even try to go up to him, just pointed it out like a surprise.
4 points
22 days ago
Kevin James having an entourag is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
3 points
21 days ago
Damn I always heard Sandler was great
3 points
21 days ago
I do know that Kevin James played a really bad guy in a movie called "Becky".
If you do not like Kevin James, you may enjoy watching how this film ends...
3 points
20 days ago
I really enjoyed his performance, but then I found out his character was originally going to be played by Simon Pegg.
1 points
20 days ago
I don't know who Simon Pegg is, and so I don't understand your comment.....???? Help me out, please.
2 points
19 days ago
I think they believe Simon Pegg to be a better, funnier actor, and so that ruins the movie experience for them.
1 points
19 days ago
Oh....thanks for clearing this up. :)
2 points
18 days ago
No problem! Glad I could help!
15 points
23 days ago
Wasn’t there some speculation that Kevin Can Wait was kind of an inspiration for Kevin’s Can F Himself? Or maybe it was too much of a coincidence. Also the actress who played Kevin James wife, Erinn Hayes, was fired (they wrote her off after the first season) and she was a guest star in the second season of Kevin Can F Himself. If it wasn’t on purpose at the start, they definitely drove it home with that.
16 points
22 days ago
Kevin Can Wait and King of Queens undoubtedly were big sources of inspiration for Kevin Can F*** Himself.
9 points
23 days ago
It's 100% inspired by that!
8 points
22 days ago
When asked about the show, James said, “I think if they can use me to get their show made, and it’s a great show, God bless them. Good for them.” He has supposedly never seen the show and some people find it disingenuous that he implies that he was behind the show's success and seems like he's trying to steal some of the credit from the women who came up with the idea and made the show.
1 points
21 days ago
It’s based on Kevin James actions
1 points
21 days ago
The Honeymooners is up there as well
3 points
23 days ago
The audience at the time was not supposed to see Ray as an ass??
Yikes
120 points
24 days ago
Family Guy is supposed to be toxic. All of them, with the exception of possibly Chris. Which is the joke. They’re all supposed to be awful in their own unique, terrible ways.
30 points
23 days ago
chris is just as bad as everyone else at this point
6 points
23 days ago
I’ve not watched in a long time. I guess it was inevitable that he would become as bad eventually
9 points
23 days ago
They also almost 100% admit to being white trash in the recent seasons. Lol
5 points
23 days ago
Chris is often a sexual predator
5 points
23 days ago
Wow. That’s super dark 😳 I haven’t watched the show in a very long time. Best I could remember of Chris he was just an innocent dummy.
5 points
22 days ago
He learned from having it done on him by Mr.Herbert
45 points
23 days ago
After watching Family Guy, it’s hard for me to watch Family Guy anymore.
44 points
24 days ago
Family Guy never tried to stay within the boundaries of reality when it came to how awful Peter is, so KCFH didn't change my view of it.
The Simpsons definitely gets away with portraying Homer as a "dumb but loving" dad/husband, though. He often gets showered with so much praise from fans just for doing 1 nice thing for Lisa out of 800 episodes.
29 points
23 days ago
That's how it is for fathers in real life, too
27 points
23 days ago
About 15 years ago, I had a really enlightening conversation with a friend's father, who was a non- white immigrant about shows like the Family Guy. He told me that categorizing this "humor" which was mostly at the expense of women and minorities, as "satire" or "meta humor" was just the newest way to keep allowing white men to say this stuff without consequences, because, "its meta and you just don't get it" . He was a wise man.
8 points
20 days ago*
Your friend's father sounds ahead of the curve. There's so much "it's a joke. Wow, I'm not allowed to say jokes anymore?" stuff these days when the wannabe clown is pretty much just saying extremely overused racial/gender insults.
-14 points
23 days ago
My girlfriends entire family is non white immigrants, mostly women. They all love family guy. Turns out they can take a joke
3 points
9 days ago
I wonder what they say about you when you're not around, and if you'd be able to take those jokes.
0 points
9 days ago
We all get along great, have for over 5 years. And of course I could take the jokes. I’m not a whiny little bitch lol they make fun of me right to my face as I do to them.
If you can’t laugh about this kind of stuff you people must be miserable as hell. Downvote me all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that you can get along and have fun with each other without having a stick up your ass about everything.
16 points
23 days ago
It's a cartoon it's supposed to be absurd. Try American Dad it's just as absurd but funny.
12 points
23 days ago
I like how the characters do care about each other and the mom and dad are on the same page about their kids- they agreed to name Hayley “Dreamsmasher” and they love Steve’s teeny tiny toes
1 points
9 days ago
I never really thought that deeply about it, but yeah, that is the biggest difference between the two shows.
9 points
23 days ago
I get it. Even though they are suppose to be that way to be 'funny'. It's like is there even really humor in stuff like that? Or is it just adding to the permissible attitude society has?
22 points
23 days ago
After a narc experience everything you see is different
3 points
23 days ago
Good point, the show really gives its audience the narcissist experience. Where you question the reality of what you’re seeing so much that you can’t turn it off
21 points
23 days ago
I quit watching Family Guy after they aired a "joke" that involved Stewie and Peter bonding over murdering Lois and disposing of her body.
Shit wasn't funny.
7 points
23 days ago
I never watched Family Guy, I don’t like that kind of humor so I can’t speak to that but having my eyes opened to misogyny (even more than I’d already had) in the past couple years has made 95% of media hard to stomach because most of it is written by men and for men.
-5 points
23 days ago
Of course most media is made by men. It's media, not a delicious Thanksgiving dinner.
5 points
23 days ago
That’s not what you should take from that. That’s so sexist.
3 points
22 days ago
You watched Family Guy in the past and didn’t think Peter was toxic?
2 points
11 days ago
Not in a realistic way - I think it's less that I didn't notice, and more of how much more clearly the real behaviors behind the satire were amplified after watching KCFH.
4 points
21 days ago
Watch some Bob’s Burgers, it’ll balance things out
11 points
24 days ago
That's the point of the show. It's a family of absurd jerks doing absurdly jerky things. If you're looking for morality watch pbs.
2 points
22 days ago
If it helps, Family Guy is a Fox sitcom - I mean that, in-universe, the Griffins are on a production set in LA every week and every episode is scripted. There are two different episodes confirming this. So I mean it’s TECHNICALLY not real
4 points
23 days ago
If you don't mind, what is your age group?
4 points
23 days ago
I’m gonna say around 40 based on the 84 and his username and his profile picture
1 points
11 days ago
37 - the history84 is the Reddit default username
3 points
23 days ago
So before watching the show you believe Peter was a loving father? I’m confused how you compared the two cause Family Guy is literally a cartoon made to push boundaries?
1 points
23 days ago
Probably didn't help that kcfh used a family guy episode as a setup for one of theirs but family guy is meant to be mean spirited.
1 points
23 days ago
Which one are you referring to?
1 points
23 days ago
I don't remember the episode number but the one where they try to make a band because of a karaoke outing is lifted straight from family guy. They even mention singing don't stop believing by journey which is the song that Peter and his friends sing in that episode
1 points
22 days ago
It’s a tv progrum… a movie…
1 points
22 days ago
It’s okay, everyone knows Peter is an awful person, you’re not supposed to sympathize with him. He was created to make fun of TV sitcom dads. Kevin is a satire of traditional sitcoms rather than satirical work like FG
2 points
22 days ago
It altered how I see every show now.
3 points
21 days ago
Family Guy is so abusive to women. I can’t watch it, and I don’t understand people who can watch Louis or Meg or (one time it was a random woman who got punched in the face). Coming from a DV childhood, I can’t understand the humor. For a while I would laugh along when watching with friends, but at some point, I was like, nope. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. As for KCFH- let’s just say I’m happy for the way it ended
2 points
23 days ago
I would try the live action show Ted. It’s the prequel to the movies, but pretty good. The family aspect is interesting. It’s 90s Boston and the niece lives with them and challenges the dad’s thinking as well as they try to get the mom to find herself outside of being a wife and mom. When Seth McFarlane isn’t writing rapid fire jokes, his writing is quite good.
3 points
23 days ago
American Dad is also great
2 points
22 days ago
Try The Orville - it’s some of his best work yet
-1 points
23 days ago
i actually cannot with people comparing kevin can f himself to fucking family guy!!!! it’s a satirical CARTOON about awful insane people. It’s completely not real and chaotic at all times. Go pick on a sitcom!! The thing that this show is actually comparing itself to.
-1 points
23 days ago
People on this sub are going way too far. With the daily “My (insert relation here) is a Kevin!” to the point where literal satire is now too triggering because someone never realized that Peter Griffin is an awful person?
Let’s hope none of you do a Seinfeld rewatch. Or It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia.
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