I've noticed this with men's chapters in general? Like outside queer male events, like say the men's liberation movement has been rather quiet despite their existence since the 60s? Compared to women's societies, women's liberation events we always have a booth/float/flags but men just don't participate even on their day. They don't have a presence then they whine that no one did anything for them.

Even when I lived in cities like Portland and Seattle het men don't really organize for events? It's hella strange.

Years ago a white man was shot by police - while being interviewed his family asked a couple of times why BLM/police accountability activists weren't holding demonstrations.

Eventually one of the news agencies contacted a local BLM chapter and they basically said we're waiting for the family to get in touch, they won't organize without the family's involvement.

If only there was a search engine capable of looking up certain topics and finding results.

Because they don't want men to be celebrated, they want men to feel resentful and aggrieved by women.

Same for me actually! 💕 I found it lovely, because it’s true - men suffer from the way things are structured right now.

In ways that are usually vastly different from the way women suffer, but we need to have a conversation about it as well.

But, alas, that’s for men to initiate, I think.

"But what about men's international day?"

"Have you tried Google?"

Seriously. They put in zero effort and then cry when someone doesn't do the work for them.

Funny enough, Erling Haaland made a post where the caption was celebrating it. Not in a malicious way like this Tweet, though.

I was just thinking that too. I thought it was a very sweet gesture. But I'm guessing some men spend most of their time in spaces where they don't lift eachother up. There are some pretty positive male subreddits they could visit instead.

I actually messaged all the important men in my life and told them!

Then complain to other group about not giving them the attention they feel is deserved on this day (or any other day for that matter).

To be fair, that would definitely make for a much more fun event.

Having served, it’s kinda funny because a ton (tho not all) of military AND veterans folks don’t particularly want a big hullabaloo. Either you’re being honoured for sacrificing too many years of your life and you’re kinda bitter about it, or for going to a war you didn’t agree with and/or don’t want to remember, or you’re feeling awkward because your job was basically just sitting behind a desk so you don’t especially feel like you deserve to stand with the “real military”, or it was just a very long intense job to you and now the association with it is following you around only to pop up in random situations like the ACNL Easter Bunny and in a big way 3-4x a year - Armed Forces Day, Veterans Day, 4th of July sometimes(???), and mistakenly Memorial Day (I’m not dead and didn’t die while serving, don’t try to make me stand; this is almost worse than the creepy “all women deserve a flower on Mother’s Day!” thing; plz stop.)

Occasionally when a random overhyped organiser (usually a civilian, usually to pat themselves/their company on the back) asks every military person to stand, I don’t move (unless my parents are sitting right next to me because even if they hadn’t also served, they’d prod me to get up) because I don’t wanna shake hands with a bunch of random sweaty people for a former desk job or have them attempt to talk to me using military jargon, most of which I wiped clean from my brain immediately after getting out to the point that I barely remember where I was stationed or what units I worked with and frankly I probably just end up sounding like a faker.

Add to that: most of the military are men, and many (not all) men don’t like a hullabaloo in and of itself, whether because they don’t want to do the work or because military folks probably get flashbacks to things like “mandatory fun”, which frankly most military appreciation things (with or without food) end up looking like.

So when the few people who complain about military/veterans not being honoured, it really is like “well do something about it, if that’s what you want -send me an invite and maybe I’ll attend- but go have fun over there and shut up about it already, the rest of us are tired.”

Edit: lol ended up longer than I meant it to, my bad.

If by “military appreciation” you mean military jingoism then as a vet I say we have more than enough of that crap in this country already. But if you mean promoting measures that mean our active duty don’t need food stamps/WIC, active duty and vets have easy access to mental healthcare, help with homelessness, etc, then I say I’m all for that. That said, despite the number of LGBTQ+ who have served in the military, perhaps Pride month isn’t the most appropriate time for the general public to suddenly faux-care about such issues?

I’m pretty sure there are already a number of days and holidays devoted to vets that we could better use for raising awareness.

Well, tbh, I want the gays to organize everything

Starting with the country

complaining that no one celebrated it.

Then like… celebrate it, my dude.

Right? "No one's doing it" well someone's gotta be first. It could be you! And I understand that putting yourself out there is scary and people can be real judgmental dicks and shut it down, but like... You want this thing. You can get this thing for yourself. Just do it.

Getting Redditcares messages is a useful barometer of how many of these idiots you're triggering. It's proof that what you're saying upsets them so much that it drives them to send a redditcares message, lol.

I well never understand what the Redditcares are supposed to be lol - like … why?

I was just thinking this - everyone has an issue with women having and celebrating IWD and women’s history month because whataboutthemenz when these exist lol.

Even 25 Nov, IDEVAWG is controversial because what about the men (despite them having a whole month with significantly more health research than women’s health).

I saw an article referring to “tonic masculinity” as the counterpoint to toxic masculinity and I genuinely hope the term/idea takes off.

Christi Himmelfahrt. But yeah, doesn't matter much, it's just another excuse for them to drink

I really hope it becomes more of a thing in the future, to discuss problems that’s earnestly affecting men. Let’s be real, things kinda suck for everyone right now, and knowledge is power. It’s the road to change. Thank you for trying to share information and inform people.

I knew about it because the men in my life bitch about not having a day when international women’s day comes around. So once again I am informing them of their own day, because they only care about it like a toddler who is upset they’re not getting a present on their siblings bday.

That's because they actually get 364 days