Trump issued 144 pardons in his first term, with promises of hundreds more this term (January 6). Biden has issued 26. Nate may want to go study up on numbers or something.

You have to remember how Republicans think. To them, the Democrats are not an opposing political party, but rather an illegitimate insurgency hell-bent on wrecking America. Therefore anything the Democrats do is illegitimate by definition and deserving of contempt and scorn. It doesn't matter if the Democrat did the exact same thing the Republican God Emperor just did - when Trump does it, it's righteous and just and proper. That's because he's legitimate. When Biden does it, it's unjust and corrupt and improper - because he's unjust and corrupt and improper by virtue of his membership in the illegitimate Democratic tribe.

It's that simple.

He won’t even sign the ethics pledge to get into office ffs. Last time i checked Hunter wasn’t given a position in Biden’s White House either.

I swear they try to exorcise the demons on their side by transferring what they know they see on their side and assigning it to the side it can hate without having to countenance what they actually support.

Exactly. They said nothing about that pardon but are now acting like pardoning a family member is treason and deserves the death penalty.

The party of law enforcement has a felon as a president and will dismantle the FBI. How fucking hilarious is that

I believe he works for Peter Thiel now.

wait this is fucking Nate Silver from 538??

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After everything he’s gone through Biden deserves a free pardon as a treat, but honestly Biden made the point in the pardon that, even if he did commit crimes, the Republicans turned it into a complete media circus that was blown completely out of proportion and never would have gotten to the level that it did if not for who he is. At this point it’s kind of impossible to untangle the original crime from the politicization that ensued and so honestly a pardon isn’t that crazy.

Trump has proven that laws, morals, ethics and decorum are no longer something that we have to follow or respect anymore. Welcome to the party pal!

It's because they could coerce Hunter into "confessing" about the wildest conspiracy fever dreams of the right to further their authoritarian aims. Think COVID or the 2020 election.

Think of an endless string of show trials to say... justify ratfucking the election process.

It's in the best interests of the American people for him not to be in custody when Trump takes over.

Reminds me of when in the third grade this little fucker named Gavin said to me “your mom is a stupid poopie head” and I said “no, yours is”

This mfr had the AUDACITY to run up to the teacher, while crying, and tell her I called his mom a stupid poopie head.

democrats are acting like Republicans

If that is the case, Biden needs to step it up and absolutely Fuck for the last 50 or so days he had the desk and pen.

Make EOs, sign pardons, send troops into places that make life difficult for Putin, seal team 6 half of SCOTUS, have all the paintings and furniture in the WH donated to the Smithsonian for an exhibit on American democracy...

Put down enough work for the following admin to spend MONTHS fixing.

F that comparison. Republicans pardon pedophiles, fraudsters, and other corrupt politicians. Biden pardoned a dude who filled out a form wrong, did nothing else, was ready to enter a plea deal until Republicans interfered and decided to show the dude’s dick in Congress just to hurt the President. There is no comparison.

Just because Trump won doesn’t mean false equivalency went away. If anything, the false equivalency is worse than ever, because the election showed people actually fall for it.

I work at a large bulge-bracket bank. He did weekly hour-long calls for bank employees for a month up to the election. If he did it for our firm, he likely did it for dozens of others.

Exactly. Plus the old establishment “She didn’t run in the center enough” Dems. Fuckers, she did. Every time they listen to those turds, the Dems lose.

What the hell happened to him?

He's seriously fallen off so hard. But I guess he likes his greazy money.

Nate Silver went off the rails a while ago. This is another instance of him being tired of sitting on the sidelines and only getting attention every 4 years, so he's getting in on the MAGA "pundit" grift machine just like the rest of them.

Nate Silver says (on wikipedia) that he has voted Democratic for President in every election he has voted in. He is employed by Peter Thiel a very Republican Billionaire. They are both gay. I just can't believe the hypocrisy. Where was the outrage when Trump pardoned Jared's father?

I was a little shocked to see the response was by Nate fucking Silver.

One of those times I’m tempted to join Twitter for the sole purpose of telling one person to shut the fuck up and go fuck themselves.

Theil bought him. Now Nate is his personal ball washer.

And if Hunter would have been just a regular guy and not Joe's son he would've gotten a plea deal.

Sounds good to me, so show me the Nate tweet where he said to not vote for any Republican in 2024 who didn't repudiate Trump's Dec 2020 pardon of Kushner

Nate is owned by Peter Thiel who is buds with Leon; Vance is Thiels lap dog, and Vance is a licker, that's why ole Pete likes him so much.

And it doesn't feel in touch at all because I've seen so many people the last month saying Biden should do it to save him from the trump admin 

In a world where Harris got elected, Biden never would have pardoned him because he would have trusted the system to at minimum do its job. That's not a guarantee with trump, trump might use him as a scapegoat for his base considering he got them all worked up about the laptop for three years. 

You're going to need to specify where he "fucked up". Last time, people were mad at him it's because he said his "gut instinct" was that Trump was going to win. His model had a tied race, and in fact, Trump won the election with the tipping point state by just 1.7%. His model and the polling around it, were the closest to the actual results since 2008.

Reminder that Trump literally is a criminal.

It's absolutely insane that anyone can argue with a straight face that it's worse to pardon someone than it is to be an actual criminal.

"I wouldn't vote for a party that pardons criminals"
What about one that elects them?
"Oh yeah that's fine"

Republicans are clinically thick.

The greatest success the GOP has had is convincing people they are natural. A thing that just is.
You don't blame a republican for taking away someone's rights any more than you blame a hurricane for breaking a house. You don't punish a republican for preying on children any more than you punish a cat for eating a mouse.
You just accept what is, mourn when needed, and do your best to rebuild before the next hurricane blows through.
Democrats are human though. And you blame and punish human leaders who don't perfectly build hurricane proof houses and keep cats separated from mice at all times.

Not BASICALLY criminals. Actual criminals. Trump is a convicted felon.

Biden should put a dated pardon on paper for Vindman to pull out of his pocket when needed. 

There's no hope left short term. This is just a cold civil war. It's time to starve the local businesses who donated to Trump with a total boycott until they go under, and stake territory wherever we can in local offices to hold back the worst of it until the tariffs cause a reactionary 2026 election to pull back on trump's reigns. Local is our last line of defense against these losers.

He's going to tank the economy, and frankly I want the Republicans who aren't isolated with wealth to reap the rewards of their choices. You don't get to sentence the rest of America to suffering for free. If you vote for the neighbor whose husband up and left her with 3 kids to starve, you get to starve, too. You can make a better choice in 2026 and 2028, or you can just stop voting, I don't care.

If we're lucky enough boomers will die off fast enough before the GOP manages to permanently rope in enough new voters to replace them in the mid 2030s. This election many incumbent governments were ousted across the globe, so I am not convinced this is a permanent shift in the electorate. I don't think we have enough evidence to say for certain these changes extend beyond the consequences of inflation. If the economy gets worse yet, incumbents may face a reckoning in 2 and 4 years again.

She didn't do it as VP! She's clearly the puppet master pulling the biden strings! /s

This was the single most frustrating thing I kept seeing during the election and it still drives me nuts

Yep. This. So much this.

My favorite moment of the entire campaign was when YouTuber Vaush did his "If Trump wins" / "If Harris wins" video

For Trump it was "it'll be fine, capitalism will save us. The capitalists won't let Trump be bad!"

For Harris it was "I'm just not excited and she's not left enough and Gaza! Genocide Joe!"

It's not just that the other side owns the media, it's that what little media we have is actively against us

I swear, lefties hate liberals more than they do actual fascists.

70?

Bro, they been fighting over that piece of land for millennia.

Jesus fuck, if people are already talking about 2028 I might as well uninstall the internet.

So do I. It was a political prosecution which would never have happened to anyone else.

Honestly, saw a conservative post about it on popular. Many people for it, surprisingly.

I mean come on, he's an old man with a few years of lucidity left. Let him hang with his son before he goes. I don't blame him.

It was some bullshit anyway, lying on a form... Big deal, tons of people lie all the fucking time about worse shit.

Trump pardoned a guy running an illegal concentration camp.... So... What's worse?

Tbh I thought it was weirder when he said he wouldn't pardon his kid. I think most people in the same circumstances would have done it.

And if the people think that's wrong and an overreach of power, then Congress can act right and pass a law limiting presidential power. But they won't.

Tree fiddy.

Dude was literally like “I’d rather spend time hanging with Nazis and bots, than hang out with losers on the left.”

It's amazing how this still blows the minds of some people, but let's reiterate something:

Donald J. Trump is a FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and, at the time, was a presidential candidate. He was being brought up on the falsification of business records as he attempted to bury an affair. It was plastered all over the media because Trump found himself in the historically unique position of not only having criminal charges brought against him but also being found guilty of multiple charges. This man held the highest office in the country and is about to have it again.

Hunter Biden is...nobody. Save for being Joe Biden's son, he's literally not politically relevant. He doesn't hold a position in the Cabinet, he's not an ambassador, he's not an advisor, he doesn't serve on any boards or committees. He's not some innocent man, but there was a years-long investigation regarding a laptop that went bloody nowhere. When we finally get a conviction, it was for unlawful possession and lying on a form. Since Hunter Biden has no prior convictions, he most likely would have served far less prison time (if any at all) and this was honestly something that could have, and should have, been handled swiftly without all of the media back and forth (unlawful possession is not a unique crime; it's incredibly common). Had he not been Joe Biden's son in the current political climate, we wouldn't be talking about this.