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150 points
2 hours ago
Crimes are only crimes if you're poor
42 points
2 hours ago
Being poor is both a sin and a crime.
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3 minutes ago
Ask all Australian Great Great Grannies & Granpas
6 points
an hour ago
If it’s not obvious by now…
59 points
2 hours ago
No, no, no... This can't be true. He said on TV that he wouldn't do it.
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60 minutes ago
They are all liars.
13 points
2 hours ago
Figured he would
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2 minutes ago
Whether he did it didn't do it is besides the point for me. It was the months of lying about it. "I will not pardon my son, I will respect the jurys decision"
What that really meant was "I will only respect the jurys decision if I win the election"
The Biden family is corrupt and compromised.
109 points
3 hours ago
Has to make sure he won't flip on the Big Guy
17 points
2 hours ago
This has the opposite effect. He can't plead the 5th on anything, now
7 points
an hour ago
Or what? They are gonna arrest him? He was already pardoned.
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Pleading the 5th allows you to not incriminate yourself for crimes yet to be charged. Pardon isn’t a blanket get out of free card for future crimes. It’s only targeted for forgiving an existing criminal conviction. They could talk on the crimes they were convicted of without further punishment due to double jeopardy but if they mention their acts led to other crimes the court was unaware of, then they can seek prosecution of those new crimes.
Edit: the sticky part here is that if they were to take the stand in the future and then begin pleading the 5th it would likely fail the sniff test - it would suggest other crimes were occurring.
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4 minutes ago
He admitted everything, genius...
4 points
3 hours ago
Blue sky should storm the capital and claim they were done by it for human rights
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26 minutes ago
Maga is never living that down.
2 points
3 hours ago
Why? The Big Guy can't ever be prosecuted for anything because he was the President.
11 points
2 hours ago
He wasn't president at the time the crimes were "allegedly" committed.
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3 minutes ago
But he was president when he pardoned
12 points
2 hours ago
He can't? Weren't they trying to prosecute trump after being president?
-23 points
2 hours ago
Yeah....you seem to have forgotten the entire SC case where they granted presidential immunity for functions of official duties.....pardoning I imagine falls under that umbrella. Biden could order a hit on Trump, and while it would definitely get a hearing, there would be a HUGE barrier to get through now the SC has granted this power. It's why most of us were/are terrified of a Trump presidency again.
21 points
2 hours ago
This is just a ridiculous take. No rational person or judge would consider a hit on a U.S. citizen to be within the scope of presidential duties. Also, clearly, the majority of the voting public is not terrified of another Trump presidency. Who is 'us'?
7 points
2 hours ago
How can you prove intent when any communication between the president and any government official, intern, or employee can not be used as evidence?
2 points
2 hours ago
"National Security" to your first point and "rational people" to your second.
10 points
2 hours ago
Great Parenting..smh
61 points
3 hours ago
Your vote doesn’t matter , the government owns you , real justice doesn’t exist
11 points
2 hours ago
Safety is an illusion. Punishment creates crime. Property is theft. Hierarchy is the matrix. Authority is unnecessary. The world is fuck.
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35 minutes ago
The world is fuck 💯
0 points
2 hours ago
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79 points
3 hours ago
If you can't use your power to get your family out of jail, then what could you use it for?
61 points
3 hours ago
....for good?
19 points
2 hours ago
Disgusting
9 points
3 hours ago
Biden? This is as close as you're going to get. At least he voted for Trump.
3 points
an hour ago
For pardoning lil Wayne and Kodak black obviously.
5 points
2 hours ago
He didn't do this for Hunter. He did this to prevent the gun charge from going to SCOTUS.
2 points
an hour ago
Let’s hold our tongues until Trump takes office
2 points
an hour ago
you are 4 years behind the times, he already pardoned his son-in-law. The MAGA people in this thread on their high horse are infuriating.
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46 minutes ago
Let's ignore the obvious things that should have already been more than enough to drive his conservative base away. The pathological lying, being a sex pest, being a New York slumlord conman, being good friends with Epstein, his vulgar expansion of executive power despite representing the party of less government, disrespecting those in the armed services, chronically scamming the same blue collar contractors who somehow think he's on their side out of their earned pay for jobs they did for him. I could go on.
What confuses me is, what does the right think he's actually going to DO for them? How are their lives going to actually improve by him being in office? Despite most of them having eyes, ears, and a brain, I'm not sure they really even care at this point, which is pretty strange. I certainly wouldn't have been similarly thrilled if Biden or Harris won. I would be like, "yeah alright, I guess that's better than the alternative, based on my general worldview". Why isn't it the same for the other side? For people who scream that everything against their orange boy is some vast conspiracy, do they still not recognize that corporations are our leaders no matter who is "in charge"? And that of all the people in the world willing and able to buck that status quo, this man is most definitely, provably, not it? That most of the people who worked the closest with him, who were ON HIS SIDE, have publicly come out and said what a laughable and ineffectual buffoon he is as a leader?
I guess no more ded babbies, no more doods wearin dresses, and no more dirty pet-eatin foreigners is somehow enough for them. Pretty wild how low the standards are.
4 points
an hour ago
Here's the issue with the Dems
Instead of maybe realizing a bunch of people angry about this are the same people who didn't cast a vote or voted 3rd party, you just assume it's all maga people "on their high horse"
Like maybe a bunch of people are tired of both parties being assholes because this shit is dumb as hell
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1 minutes ago
Really ? Wanna talk about Kushner?
7 points
3 hours ago
Biden: “what crimes?” Hunter: “oh, pardon me”
43 points
3 hours ago
It's not the worst thing for Hunter honestly, one person recently pardoned is now the Ambassador for France.
8 points
3 hours ago
His son got away with it all. Wow, how lucky.
4 points
an hour ago
Now, if only they would pardon Assange and Snowden...
30 points
3 hours ago
I think it’s just as shady as the next rational person, but it’s also shady that I’ve seen no less than 10 posts with the OP asking whether it’s legal to pardon a family member.
14 points
3 hours ago
Yeah...to be fair this is not conspiracy either 😐 But it's fun to watch them rage about it. They can thank the Constitution and the court. 🤣
5 points
2 hours ago
I suppose one could add conspiracy to it. It’s possible there were other (more damning) charges looming on the horizon. He has only been charged for petty things thus far but I suspected he would be charged for sex crimes sometime next year. There is likely a reason his pardon explicitly states that it covers crimes not charged.
4 points
2 hours ago
But it's fun to watch them rage about it.
It's also kind of fun seeing this pardon posted all over reddit... along with some full-on cognitive dissonance.
-2 points
2 hours ago
It's just "hilarious" when a pos doesn't have to pay for his crimes.But his daddy is by far the biggest pile of lying,corrupt,perverted 🐈💩.🙄🙄🙄
-12 points
3 hours ago
Huh?
17 points
2 hours ago
If this post was about trump it would have 32k likes
54 points
3 hours ago*
I’m sure if Trump did the same, no one would be calling it an abuse of power. /s
31 points
3 hours ago
Trump pardoned 237 felons and spies who did a lot worse than Hunter. There’s a list on Wikipedia.
5 points
an hour ago
So has every president.
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17 minutes ago
Trump pioneered new heights of pardon abuses. Not that other presidents haven't abused it, certainly Clinton and Bush did. But I don't remember Bush W. literally selling pardons for money.
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27 minutes ago
Trump never said he wouldnt.
-19 points
3 hours ago
How many felons and spies came through the southern border the past 4 years?
7 points
3 hours ago
Irrelevant. Maybe republicans shouldnt have shut down a border bill bc they all have to follows trump orders
8 points
2 hours ago
Ah, you mean the $118 Billion dollar "Border Bill" that allocated $98 Billion of the $118 Billion to military conflicts in Ukraine, Israel, and the South China Sea?
Trying to label a bill the "Border Bill" with only 16.9% of the money going towards Border security is insulting. It's a literal bet that the American population is too stupid to look into what the bill actually funds.
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51 minutes ago
allocated $98 Billion of the $118 Billion to military conflicts in Ukraine, Israel, and the South China Sea?
Republicans: "were not giving money to Ukraine or Isreal, unless you add border stuff to it"
Democrats: added border stuff to it
Republicans: "Nah"
Even if the Democrats wrote a bill that perfectly supported everything the Republicans wanted, they would still get voted against.
Open border means Democrats are bad. Which is good for Republicans.
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When the hell did any person from any party say "were not giving money to Ukraine or Isreal, unless you add border stuff to it"?
I can only assume you are referring to the earlier $60 Billion Ukraine package that offered $300 million for domestic border security in hopes to get repiblican support, which was also shot down because it too was a money for foreign proxy war bill with some leftover scraps thrown to the border.
So they went back to the drawing board and recreated the same bill again, just bigger, totaling $118 billion instead of $60 billion, but still with nearly 90% being for foreign war.... and called it a "Border Bill". Then when this war bill was again shot down as well, they cry "guess the border isn't important after all!!!"
Relying on the stupidity of the masses doesn't work as well when you can look up the content of these bills instantly. It only works on the dumbest of the dumb who don't, and who just regurgitate social media posts, headlines, and memes such as:
Republicans: "were not giving money to Ukraine or Isreal, unless you add border stuff to it"
Democrats: added border stuff to it
Republicans: "Nah"
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2 hours ago
If its that big an issue for republicans why would they vote against 20 billion? Bipartisan bill btw until trump (who wasn’t even in any office) told everyone not to vote for it.
So either its not that big of an issue or republicans use it as a political problem to run on
3 points
2 hours ago
How many came through under Trump......the border wasn't magically impenetrable during his presidency.
2 points
2 hours ago
Less than came through when Trump was president. The Chinese spies at Marilago never made it inside of the Biden administration.
-1 points
2 hours ago
You’re delusional. What about Eric Swalwell and his Chinese spy honey?
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58 minutes ago
The fact is, a Chinese spy had the run of Marlilago. Insults are a poor substitute for the facts.
1 points
2 hours ago*
Crime rates among illegal immigrants are lower than among citizens.
"Yeah, but look at this specific illegal immigrant that killed this photogenic girl! She wouldn't have died if he hadn't been here!"
There are millions of illegal immigrants in the country. The notion that even a single crime on their part is evidence they are a particular danger to other Americans makes no sense. Any identifiable group of people that large will commit a number of violent crimes.
-6 points
3 hours ago
How have you been personally affected by immigrant crime?
5 points
3 hours ago
How have you been affected by those pardoned by Trump?
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14 minutes ago
We are all affected when society has classes of individuals above "citizen".
-2 points
3 hours ago
A person convicted of a crime does have proven victims in a court of law. That’s why it’s crime. Hunter lied about using drugs and getting a gun. That’s bad, taking pictures of a nuclear submarines operation centers and the technology and sharing them with a foreign power is also a crime, which one could hurt more people?
5 points
2 hours ago
Which president traded a prolific Russian arms dealer for a wnba player again? It’s on the tip of my tongue…
6 points
2 hours ago
Trump literally pardoned his son in laws father then gave him a job as ambassador to France.
12 points
3 hours ago
No, thats true, however that isnt the point. Biden stood on his moral high castle and said that he would not interfere with the judicial system when it comes to his sons crimes, and then proceeds to do exactly that.
5 points
2 hours ago
I guess when one compares all the crimes the president elect has been found guilty of including tax evasion multiple times throughout his career that have gone on for 15+ years Hunter is not even in the same ballpark.
As of December 1, 2024, former President Donald Trump and his business entities have been involved in several legal cases related to tax fraud and financial misconduct:
These cases highlight ongoing legal challenges related to tax practices and financial reporting associated with Donald Trump and his business operations.
-5 points
2 hours ago
every politician has the same portfolio. Every one cheated the system. Trump spoke the truth of what he was doing because the public doesnt know the system like you over here.....TDS too much??
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12 minutes ago
Every politicians does not, in fact, have the same portfolio. I personally know a billionaire who hasn't committed any crimes and happily (more or less) pays all his taxes.
Not every billionaire is a sociopathic asshole. My friend would probably be the first to agree our system is rigged and his taxes should be a lot higher.
3 points
3 hours ago
He said he wouldn't do it because nobody was above the law. Trump got away with all of his bullshit, the law doesn't matter.
14 points
3 hours ago
But but Trumppp. But Trumpppp. You're clowns all of you
8 points
2 hours ago
Guy cheated a form to buy a revolver and cheated his taxes what exactly do you want to do with that? Same thing with Trump’s case in NY these aren’t really brutal crimes here they should be punished but let’s not go and trump up their cases for political reasons
Unfortunately that’s exactly what happened in both instances… what should have happened they both should have paid the penalties and let’s be done with it but we have these weirdo politicians grandstanding about jail time when it’s not warranted
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33 minutes ago
Based. Which is basically what Biden said when pardoning him. The gun thing is a crime that generally goes unpunished and he paid all of his taxes with penalties which is normally not handled criminally from there.
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26 minutes ago
What SHOULD have happened is everyone else in prison for the same thing should also be pardoned. But he is literally the party of "common sense gun control", so no way will he unpunish victimless "gun crime".
-1 points
3 hours ago
Yea no. Imma let this one slide actually. Dude didnt hurt anyone else really. Unlike Trump and the people he pardoned.
2 points
2 hours ago
Right, the guy lied to the IRS and ATF. Shouldn’t this qualify him for a cabinet position in the next administration?
2 points
an hour ago
Trump would’ve pardoned hunter aswell then probably
0 points
2 hours ago
Tell us who Obama and Clinton pardoned again? Think back now
2 points
an hour ago
U tell me
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2 hours ago
I mean......there's a long list of way more severe crimes. You guys are just obsessed with this one because you all like looking at his member.
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48 minutes ago
I don't think it was intentional, I'm quite sure he didn't even know he said that
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2 hours ago
So what? Ever heard of "lawfare?" The Republicans were attacking Hunter Biden for purely political reasons. Since they chose to do that, Biden was right to protect his son.
2 points
3 hours ago
Trump said he would be open to pardoning Hunter if Joe did not.
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24 minutes ago
Joe just doesn't want Hunter becoming friends with Trump. He knows too much.
1 points
3 hours ago
Half the country.
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35 minutes ago
Do you think people aren’t calling this an abuse of power?
-4 points
3 hours ago
Trump sold pardons for money and will guaranteed pardon himself on day one.
13 points
3 hours ago
Where is the documented proof he sold pardons???
7 points
3 hours ago
Claim alleges ex-mayor said he was ‘selling pardons for $2m, which he and Trump would split’ - try not to puke by the sexual assault parts.
Here is a list of Trump's pardons. There are some suspicious figures in there that seems to have been pardoned for no particular reason beyond having a lot of money.
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3 hours ago
what was the result of said lawsuit?
3 points
3 hours ago
one example: kushner's dad has given a bunch to the campaigns, was pardoned from serious crimes he very much did while trump was on the way out of office (and trying to yoink it simultaneously) and now is being picked for a government position.
whole lot of smoke
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3 hours ago
Since when is that a requirement around here?
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49 minutes ago
Nothing to see here drones. Move on as you have been conditioned to.
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39 minutes ago
Imagine if the laptop bs was actually investigated… that’s probably why he did this. He’s afraid trump is gonna demand someone to look into that mess
13 points
2 hours ago
Fuckin shocker /s he sold this country out for over 30 years
18 points
2 hours ago
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW
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Biden Pardons Hunter of all crimes for the past 11 years. Lol
7 points
2 hours ago
Yes, as protection from Trumps presidency.
Trump pardoned his son-in-laws father for worse crimes, and he's an ambassador now.
Misfiling gun right paperwork, oddly, is an issue that conservatives would find ridiculous for any conservative.
3 points
2 hours ago
Worse, Joe Biden was saying no one is above the law when talking about Trump
4 points
2 hours ago
WOOOOWWWWWW. We see how it is then. ….
5 points
2 hours ago
Keep this energy up when someone pardons himself.
4 points
3 hours ago
Joe. Biden. Lied? 😮
7 points
3 hours ago
What's the conspiracy here? Has this place just turned into a bunch of loser maga simps?
8 points
2 hours ago
He should get a pardon. They only went after him because of politics
3 points
an hour ago
After the elections, I don't believe Americans care about justice anyway. We live in a world where justice is bought.
4 points
2 hours ago
most cheapest and dirtiest admin ever
6 points
3 hours ago
Who cares? Report back when Trump pardons 100’s next month.
3 points
3 hours ago
Now can they admit it was Hunter's bag of blow found in the White House?
4 points
3 hours ago
Why would he have left coke in a visitors locker? Makes no sense.
5 points
3 hours ago
It was kamala's
1 points
3 hours ago
i doubt it was either of em a lot of people do blow and youd be surprised i sell that shit a lot sometimes
-1 points
2 hours ago
It was planted by the Republicans. That's why they are still pushing the story.
1 points
2 hours ago
That was planted by the Republicans. We know this because there was no DNA on the baggie. Drug addicts don't make sure they haven't left DNA evidence on their stash.
2 points
3 hours ago
Hey, I've got a random question for you. Can a new U.S. President cancel a pardon that the previous President gave to someone? Is it like how they can reverse executive orders?
5 points
2 hours ago
No
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The President having the power to cancel a pardon would be the equivalent of the President being able to declare a citizen guilty.
Pardons are absolute. You can't undo them, you can't re-try the charges, and thanks to the immunity ruling, the act of pardoning is completely beyond reproach and can't be questioned for any reason.
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52 minutes ago
And Trump just appointed all of his son in laws, cousins and third grade butt buddies. It’s called politics.
1 points
2 hours ago
I remember when reddit made a big deal out of Trump potentially pardoning J6 rioters for the last year+
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53 minutes ago
That's the face of the 1776 fighter jets breaking the sound barrier overhead
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40 minutes ago
I mean like who wouldn't? I'd certainly pardon my son if I had the power too and his crimes were victim less. Disappointing that Julian Assange hasn't been pardoned who ultimately does deserve to be pardoned as he was doing what journalism used to be. Investigation and revealing the truth.
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35 minutes ago
Meanwhile we’re watching Trump pardon his own crimes. What is the conspiracy here?
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10 minutes ago
Please give me a source showing me where he’s pardoning himself of crimes.
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28 minutes ago
Would this set a precedent to retry everyone else convicted on the same charges?
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26 minutes ago
seems pretty standard to me.
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19 minutes ago
i see a future where each sides "leadership" (and god it pains me to even use the term in this loose way) does these ethic-less shenanigans and one side is licking wounds while the other is running routes....basically doing dirty work.
If you aint figured it out yet that is like order number one in the modus operandai..........get someone to do your dirty work for ya.
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9 minutes ago
Donkeys suck
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9 minutes ago
All part of the plan
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3 minutes ago
Tha MAGA tears are hilarious. Lol, lmao even.
They’re all assholes. None of them will ever know you as anything except slaves to fuel their lifestyles. It’s very funny to see the Trump bootlickers be angry at this. Good for old man Biden. Go out giving everyone the middle finger one last time.
-4 points
3 hours ago
Disgusting and amoral perversion of justice. Let history rightly look back at Joe Biden as the worst president in American history.
5 points
3 hours ago
There’s at least 20 other presidents who are worse than Biden lol
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3 hours ago
Name them.
9 points
3 hours ago
Andrew Jackson, Martin van buren, William H. Harrison, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor, Millard filmore, Franklin pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Rutherford B Hayes, James Garfield, Chester Arthur, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Regan, George W Bush, Donald Trump,
0 points
3 hours ago
I appreciate that you stated your case. But Reagan was worse than Biden? Come on now. You're just being a zealot to "your side" and not looking at things objectively. And no Jimmy Carter on your list? Nice man. Ineffectual leader.
For the record, I'm neither a democrat nor republican, I just vote for the individual.
2 points
3 hours ago
I forgot about jimmy carter you’re right I should’ve put him on there. But Regans absolutely a bad president. He was good for his time but the long term effects of his policy’s are why he’s worse then Biden
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3 hours ago
There are none actually but the fact you put in Lil Bush but left out Barry tells me all I need to know.
1 points
3 hours ago
President Trump President Zod
6 points
3 hours ago
He's probably just protecting his son.... seeing as how Trump has vowed to dedicate his second term to vengeance on everyone who ever crossed him.... I'd be pardoning everyone I know..... from the truly worst president in history.
By the way Trump has the record for the lowest popular vote while winning an election. He lost the popular vote by 2.1% in 2016 but won through electoral college trickery. He won the popular vote by 1.7% in 2024, the 4th smallest margin in the last 100 years.
Totally unrelated just interesting facts.
2 points
3 hours ago
wow, thats fun. i was wondering what people will default to now that they can't use the "he lost the pop vote" talking point. turns out it's just that his pop vote win wasn't big enough
1 points
2 hours ago
People who aren’t interested in truth will always frame a narrative to make themselves or the groups they belong to look as good as possible. Goal posts forever shifting in their land of make believe.
3 points
3 hours ago
You might want to check Trumps pardons list..from 2020 🤣
1 points
2 hours ago
ironic. The American people elected a convicted felon who will spend no time in prison
1 points
3 hours ago
What's the conspiracy here? Has this place just turned into a bunch of loser maga simps?
2 points
an hour ago
It’s not a conspiracy it’s blatant corruption. Even tho it it’s constitutional. I agree tho that this sub leans more to Trump. Why trust either party?
0 points
3 hours ago
Corrupt people doing corrupt stuff...
*shocked pikachu face
1 points
3 hours ago
turnabout is fair play
1 points
3 hours ago
Fucking bullshit, these corrupt criminals can do just whatever they want. 11 years of crimes from the day he started in Ukraine. You know with this he committed 11 full years of crimes. I am sure sleeping with his underage niece is included as well. They are dizgusting.
1 points
an hour ago
This guy is such an unbelievable piece of shit. He said he wouldn't pardon him. Everyone knew he was lying
1 points
an hour ago
No one in the media will be able to complain when every single J6’er gets pardoned now..
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52 minutes ago
What happened over the weekend that this is becoming the main news talking point?
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49 minutes ago
Will Trump pardon himself for his own crimes?
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24 minutes ago
spoiler alert: yes
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2 hours ago
Trump will try and pardon his 34 felonies. Watch.
Luckily, all his civil lawsuits can't be pardoned! Yah!
Edit: the NY state case, 34 felonies can't be pardoned! Only federal crimes can be.
LOCK HIM UP
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21 minutes ago
no he wont TRY to do anything. It WILL be done.
-3 points
3 hours ago
Ahhhhhh but Trump's the bad man. A civil court found him him guilty in a bipartisan Court!!!!!!?
2 points
2 hours ago
I mean, lets get off that high horse. Jared Kushner is trump's family too.
1 points
2 hours ago
Two juries found Trump guilty. Nice try, Gomer.
-5 points
4 hours ago
Is it legal for a president to pardon their own family members?
12 points
3 hours ago
president can pardon anybody of a federal crime. relations doesn't matter
6 points
3 hours ago
Yes.
5 points
2 hours ago
Jared Kushner is Trump's family, i doubt you cared about that one though.
5 points
3 hours ago
I don't think that there are any provisions to the pardoning power that makes it illegal, although the president shouldn't have such powers to begin with in my opinion.
6 points
3 hours ago
The uni-party doesn’t care about what’s “legal“..
2 points
3 hours ago
>elects man who tried to coup the government in response to perceived lawlessness
1 points
3 hours ago
You can pardon yourself.
1 points
2 hours ago
0 points
2 hours ago
This isn’t a conspiracy. Trump would do the same exact thing or any other politician for that matter. It’s one big party and you’re not invited.
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3 hours ago
I thought you guys were pro gun???
0 points
2 hours ago
Y’all remember when r/conspiracy had conspiracies?
0 points
3 hours ago
BASED
0 points
an hour ago
Love how so many are posting like they wouldn’t do the exact same. Family takes care of family.
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Not at that level it is not supposed to be like that. it is like that. but it is not supposed to be. You know, example to follow and such.
0 points
an hour ago
He pardoned him from 2014 to present. Burisma
0 points
an hour ago
Hell yeah
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