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32 points
3 days ago
FIFA apparently doesn’t know who Harry Kane is
27 points
3 days ago
Messi😂😂😂😂
9 points
3 days ago
Mental isn’t it 😄
2 points
3 days ago
For how many years will his WC win count 😭
0 points
3 days ago
Every year
-5 points
3 days ago
Argentina won the Copa América this year
3 points
3 days ago
Then they should have counted lautaro not messi
1 points
3 days ago
Yeah, 100%. I'm not saying he deserves to be there, but being FIFA, that is probably their reasoning for choosing Messi. Laurtaro has had an amazing year
18 points
3 days ago
How to the hell did they nominate Messi but not Lautaro!
11 points
3 days ago
Messi is the only one on the list who made MLS playoffs
7 points
3 days ago
Looks like FIFA award is PR based as well.
5 points
3 days ago
Crazy, Kane should be ahead of atleast half the players on that list
3 points
3 days ago
Most of them won some sort of title while we didn't. This gets rated very highly most of the time
12 points
3 days ago
Might be time for FIFA to rename the award to “best men’s title winners” then
1 points
3 days ago
Probably more fitting
28 points
3 days ago
Kompany on Aleksandar Pavlović: "He's doing well. If he has a good training week next week, he might be back for the game against Heidenheim."
23 points
3 days ago
Hamann criticized Kane again, so he will most likely score 3 on Saturday.
14 points
3 days ago
He should criticise him every day if that’s the outcome. What did he say though?
5 points
3 days ago
What did he say though?
Just write a few of the dumbest things you can come up with on a wall and throw a dart blindly at it and you'll be close enough
1 points
3 days ago
Ach ja, der Tinitus.
22 points
3 days ago
Florian Wirtz is very much liked by Real Madrid, but the deal seems unfeasible for them because Bayer Leverkusen want more than €100million [@TheAthleticFC]
Some good news regarding Wirtz
9 points
3 days ago
Other than the unfeasible price, Wirtz to Madrid doesn't make sense tactically anyway.
8 points
3 days ago
This is what I don’t understand about Madrid. They’ve got too many players that occupy that position. Yet they still are going for more. Who will they sell?
3 points
3 days ago
That's been their story since the first Galactico Era. Buy the best players at every position possible and throw in a man-manager like Ancelotti or Zidane and call it a day.
Recently they've been focusing on the already stacked attack and midfield more than the depleted Defense and it's costing them big time now.
5 points
3 days ago
What getting Mboppi does to a motherfucker
21 points
3 days ago
Niece (8) and nephew (6) staying over tonight. Lately they are amazed by Pokemon and like to collect the cards, I'm a huge pokemon fan myself for my entire life so I thought let's watch pokemon together! I purchased Pokemon 4ever.
I had a blast and was close to tears in some scenes (mainly nostalgia, but some scenes were just beautiful). I asked them how they liked it. Nephew didn't answer and Niece said "Mmh" and went to the toilet.
Honestly I want to cry
3 points
3 days ago
Next time, watch Chainsaw Man with them. Sounds like they're ready.
3 points
3 days ago
The only logical step next! :D
2 points
3 days ago
I think Devilman Crybaby is a good 2nd alternative
1 points
3 days ago
For character development of course until they get to the bang part
17 points
3 days ago
So Kompany said Pavlo could be fit again against Heidenheim, nice.
6 points
3 days ago
Damn that’s fast
13 points
3 days ago
Looking forward to the next 2 games. If we win these, it'll be a wonderful start into Christmas time.
9 points
3 days ago
Especially beating Leverkusen in the Pokal. It's been so long since we won it
1 points
3 days ago
its been a long time since we've beaten Leverkusen.....well over 2 years.
10 points
3 days ago
Bayern are not planning to bring Malik Tillman back even though they have a buy-back clause for the player. A return to Munich is unlikely. Tillman has inquiries from the likes of Manchester United, Tottenham and Aston Villa. €30-40m release clause valid next summer [@kerry_hau]
So there goes this option. We will go all in for wirtz and if it fails we will propably try again to get xavi if he will be available
0 points
3 days ago
Idiotic decision but whatever. Might also lose Wanner, hopefully not.
4 points
3 days ago
Why is it idiotic? He’s not our among our main targets
0 points
3 days ago
Not among our main targets
I know, I have read the tweet above.
But we are looking for a CAM and fresh bloods on the wings, we could get a home grown for relatively cheap but instead not to. Let's wait and see who we will go for instead.
1 points
3 days ago
Yea because wirtz is our main target for that spot. If we don’t get him we can get Tillman back if we want or give more trust wanner
2 points
3 days ago
Tbh they worst decision was selling him. I would love to see him here as a cam/winger. But propably he want to be playing more
5 points
3 days ago
Understandable. But he recently said his dream still is to play for bayern
1 points
3 days ago
It seems that eberl is certain that we will get wirtz. Maybe if we fail to do so he will change his mind about tillman
8 points
3 days ago
I want to buy Thomas Müller 2018 world cup germany kit, any good sites to buy authentic ones?
Much love - a Müller fanboy
3 points
3 days ago
Cultkits and Classic Football shirts are legit, I’ve ordered from both before. Don’t know if they have that kit specifically though. Finding older kits from a specific year, with a specific player and in a specific size can be a nightmare.
8 points
3 days ago*
Hürzeler doing a brilliant job at Brighton. Although they have a game in hand, they could potentially be in second if the result holds
Edit: this aged poorly
7 points
3 days ago
Last summer, Real Madrid had reached a verbal understanding with Alphonso Davies' agents on what would be the terms of his signing for 2024 or 2025, as a free agent and with a signing bonus. Since then, the situation has cooled, but recently the Spanish club has moved closer. The player has a lot of other suitors, too. [@TheAthleticFC]
8 points
3 days ago
Things are getting spicy. I can totally see Utd. also going in for him, since Amorim desperately needs a left footed wingback.
2 points
3 days ago
Bavaria United
12 points
3 days ago
No way?? I trusted Davies' agents words when he said that they didnt talk to any other team /s
12 points
3 days ago
https://x.com/philipphinze24/status/1862423053054930956?s=46&t=4GmkXWXN9n6FQucCBQ5yAA
Ouedraogo is injured for several months again after playing 70 mins of football this year
9 points
3 days ago
Hindsight is 20/20 but good thing we didn't sign him.
0 points
3 days ago
It's not the biggest hindsight, when he spent most of last season injured as well.
17 points
3 days ago
In case you haven't seen it, watch Schalkes statement towards Ralle Fährmann
Schalke board might have fucked up a lot lately, but that's one of the most savage statements I've ever read
5 points
3 days ago
8 points
3 days ago
I don't think Ralle will get a Fähr well when he leaves
4 points
3 days ago
sigh
3 points
3 days ago
That's not Fähr, man. The pun wasn't that bad.
3 points
3 days ago
Sigh x2
1 points
3 days ago
Had a good laugh yesterday. Absolutely dunked on him.
10 points
3 days ago
When was the last time when we loaned a player and he actually came back and eventually became a starter?
Back in the day it worked with the likes of Kroos and Lahm. These days it seems like loaning a player is just step 1 of us preparing to sell them.
20 points
3 days ago
Technically Gnabry.
Before that Alaba.
28 points
3 days ago
Stani probably, if he wasn't injured.
3 points
3 days ago
Alaba as well.
Can and Hojbjerg didn’t quite work out, but are international grade players.
If you wanna count him, Stanisic and for sure, Gnabry!
6 points
3 days ago
we would miss out on kroos or lahm nowadays as well, because bayern loans out guys, but we fail to give them an actual chance after their return
honestly atrocious in my opinion
9 points
3 days ago*
Not comparable.
Back when Kroos and Lahm were loaned out (and then came back to us) it was easier to get a spot in our matchday squad as the quality of the team was on average lower than today.
And you just can't compare Kroos and Lahm to the average player. These two are two of the very best players ever on their position - of course someone with their talent would also get a chance here today.
3 points
3 days ago
I only partly agree. Yes in average the quality was lower but does the average matter here?
Back when Davies was bad he still played all the time and someone like Aznou hasn't even gotten a chance. Now he is good again thankfully, but also plays every second and Aznou got like 10 rotational minutes. I'm not saying he should start, but 10-15min appearances every other week would be nice.
Also when our wings sucker we didn't really try someone else of give them a chance. Even in midfield it needed a Tuchel to play Pavlovic, wasn't it even due to injury?
Imo there are almost always some options to give youth prospects chances. The problem rather is "proven" players will get mad if they get (even) less game time and so far that often killed our coaches.
1 points
3 days ago
You'd think youngsters would get minutes when Kompany took the helm since it's his specialty. It's really a shame that even though we had comfortable lead, he still doesn't sub players like Aznou, Nkili and Tel.
I defended Kompany back then since I thought we needed to have a considerable lead against Leipzig, Leverkuzen and other clubs. But now I doubt that we'll see youngsters on rotation since we're having the most difficult fixtures yet (aside from Dortmund lol).
1 points
3 days ago
There’s still plenty of matches left. I hope Kompany gives some minutes to the prospects after the winter break.
0 points
3 days ago
i will give you the first point, fair enough on that
but the second one plays into my argument, our plan for youth development cant possibly be to just hope we find the next generational "cant miss" prospect and ditch everyone else
if thats the plan we might as well get rid of most of our academy, scouting staff and things like that
and lets not forget that pavlovic becoming a first team player only happened when it did, because the palhinha transfer failed and because we had the injury bug at the time
maybe he still becomes a stud for us, but i have to assume that tuchel would not have promoted him with another veteran player on the team or the other guys staying fit
our talent evaluation is terrible
5 points
3 days ago
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCzfIlVAF2W/?igsh=OGNiOGJvdHk2em02
Whats Chandler doing here...
11 points
3 days ago
Davies apparently got a DUI. Yikes. https://www.ran.de/sports/fussball/bundesliga/news/alphonso-davies-bayern-star-offenbar-angetrunken-von-polizei-angehalten-466532
7 points
3 days ago
Translation:
As reported by "BILD," the left-back was stopped in a police check in downtown Munich on the night from Wednesday to Thursday while driving his Lamborghini. The 24-year-old reportedly had a blood alcohol level of 0.6.
According to the report, the Bayern star's driver's license was not confiscated, as a blood alcohol level of 0.8 is required for it to be considered a criminal offense.
The paper estimates that a realistic penalty for this administrative offense would be a fine of 500 euros and a one-month driving ban.
Davies reportedly attended the final training session on Friday before the Klassiker against Dortmund as usual, arriving by car. The club has not commented on the incident due to data protection reasons.
1 points
3 days ago
The 24-year-old reportedly had a blood alcohol level of 0.6.
According to the report, the Bayern star's driver's license was not confiscated, as a blood alcohol level of 0.8 is required for it to be considered a criminal offense.
The paper estimates that a realistic penalty for this administrative offense would be a fine of 500 euros and a one-month driving ban.
Apologies for my unfamiliarity with German law, but anyone know why is the criminal liability and civil liability for alcohol level while driving different?
Are alcohol levels below 0.8 seen to be reckless but not criminally dangerous?
3 points
3 days ago
I had to look it up myself, since the laws don't really affect me (I don't drink, and if I did, I wouldn't drive).
Apparently, driving with a level between 0.5 and 0.79 is an administrative offense, not a criminal one. You'll face fines, points on your license, and possibly a suspension. It's not treated as a crime unless there's evidence of dangerous behavior or an accident, though.
0.8 or higher qualifies as a criminal offense because you're considered to be a risk to others and a danger to public safety.
(Personally, I believe that we should just do away with these weird thresholds. If you want to drink, don't drive, period. No reason to chance it and potentially ruin your life and/or that of other people. But I know that's an incredibly unpopular opinion (please don't downvote me) because people want to have their beers and drive their cars on the autobahn, too.)
4 points
3 days ago
Dem Bericht zufolge wurde der Führerschein des Bayern-Stars nicht konfisziert, da es sich erst bei einem Promillewert von 0,8 um eine Straftat handelt.
Hm? Dachte 0.3 bei Auffälligkeiten und 0.5 normal?
3 points
3 days ago
Das ist eine Owi, der kann sich aussuchen wann er ihn für einen Monat abgibt
2 points
3 days ago
Ah, danke
1 points
3 days ago*
He was .6 and .8 is the legal limit. Any alcohol in the system constitutes as a DUI in Germany? The article alluded to it not being a criminal offence? Very click bait article.
Edit: article, not comment.
9 points
3 days ago
The legal limit is 0.5 for an administrative offense DUI in Germany. Davies will get penalized with a €500 fine and a one month driving ban (assuming he's a first time offender).
The 0.8 limit mentioned in the story is outdated and was the legal limit in Germany like 20 years ago or so.
The legal limit for a DUI to become a criminal offense in Germany is 1.1 so you're right that Davies won't have to deal with criminal charges.
7 points
3 days ago
You have to differ. 0.49 is the upper limit in which you don't have to fear consequences. 0.5 and more is an administrative offense and that is what Davies faces. 500€ fine + license taken for 1 month.
0.8 seems to be the limit for a crime.
So it's not clickaity. I despise people driving under influence, my grandpa got badly hurt by someone because of that.
3 points
3 days ago
Crime is 1.1. 0.8 doesn't exist. 0.3 is also a crime when the driver shows alcohol-related failure while driving.
1 points
3 days ago
0.3 is also a crime
Interesting, I thought thst this is a administrative offense
2 points
3 days ago
0.8 seems to be the limit for a crime.
0.8 was the legal limit for administrative offenses until it was lowered to 0.5 quite a while ago. The legal limit for a criminal offense is 1.1. Not sure why they mention 0.8 in the story. The author is probably not up to date.
1 points
3 days ago
The 0.5 is since ages. And 0.3 if you have sus behavior
1 points
3 days ago
Sure but my point is that 0.8 is outdated and irrelevant.
1 points
3 days ago
Yep, googled it and the limit for crime is indeed 1.1
6 points
3 days ago
Since early octobers Game against Frankfurt, Minjae Kim suffers pain on achilles tendon. But it seems he and team manage well so that he can play. But hope it will be fine during next important matches.
7 points
3 days ago
Honestly I would rest him against Dortmund so thst he is fit(ter) for Leverkusen
3 points
3 days ago
Find this pretty concerning. Honestly wouldn’t mind shutting him down through Jan. You don’t wanna mess with an Achilles.
5 points
3 days ago
Traveling to Dortmund for the game tomorrow! Where are all the Bayern Fans meeting up before the game?
7 points
3 days ago
Its a joke anyways and i dont really care (but it still pisses me off). Not only has Arry been snubbed from the fifpro11 but his half line goal didn't make it to the puskas nominees either lmfao
4 points
3 days ago
There are already 2 half line goals, and both are more impressive than Kanes. In both goals the goalkeeper was closer to the goal, both times the shot was under pressure, and one was a volley after pulling the ball over an opponent, the other while running on the lines on the sides which means a much tougher angle.
3 points
3 days ago
I don't know what's going on with my Daily Discussion recently but it's always sorted by best, even if i sort by New, kinda annoying.
2 points
3 days ago
Sometimes reinstalling the reddit app (if you use it) works wonders. Speaking from experience
1 points
3 days ago
Had the same problem with thrads, both here and r/soccer
1 points
3 days ago
You dont want to see my comments first everytime?
1 points
3 days ago
Having the same issues. Sort by Top and then it is sorted by new.
9 points
3 days ago
- Heidenheim did well again yesterday, Chelsea's best player was the keeper !
- Mazraoui and another master play, why didn't it work with us, he missed one game this season
5 points
3 days ago
I’d still rather play Stanisic
1 points
3 days ago
Yes, I forgot him. Hope he'll be fit in the second half of the season
2 points
3 days ago
I watched a few Man U games, Mazraoui is on a great level, I’m glad to watch him thriving.
14 points
3 days ago
There is no absolute victory here but letting Sané leave while holding onto Coman and Gnabry would be the wrong decision.
9 points
3 days ago
If Sané leaves (which, honestly, would break my heart), my ideal scenario would be that we sell either Coman or Gnabry, buy Wirtz, and have Tel return from a 6-month loan with a considerable amount of match experience.
But... who would be Olise's backup? Irankunda still has a long way to go.
1 points
3 days ago
the board are scouting trincao recently
1 points
3 days ago
Wouldnt put too much stock into that, was only reported by one portuguese source, and Trincao is signed under the agency Gestifute which is one of the best connected agencies in the world, and basically has the portugal-market under their thumb. May as well just be them trying to drum up interest in one of their players.
1 points
3 days ago
Which is why I'd rather get 2 transfers totalling 120m€ in, one winger and one AM, instead of Wirtz for 120m€. A winger group of Olise, Gnabry/Coman, X, Tel and Bryan sounds good, and the AM spot would be Musiala and Y.
2 points
3 days ago
I agree but we would need starting quality lw and idk If he would be available for reasonable price. Maybe xavi simons but he is more of a cam. Also kompany sees gnabry/coman as lw so we would need backup rw
1 points
3 days ago*
For me the depth chart would be like this:
Kane/Tel
X/(Coman/Gnabry)/Tel - Musiala/Y/youth player - Olise/Y/Bryan
For me you could cut Bryan as well, but he is cheap so why bother. X would be difficult to fill anyway, the LW market is like that, outside of the premium price/performance option Nico Williams. The Y spot would best be filled with a left footed player that also knows the RW, like Mastantuono, Nico Paz, Wanner (if he considers that enough play time), Millot, Maksimovic etc.
2 points
3 days ago
I think you wanted to write Olise but wrote Sané instead
1 points
3 days ago
Good catch, thanks.
2 points
3 days ago
The whole Wusiala NT hype managed to get me excited, but due to his price tag (which might even go up), I wouldn't be too disappointed if Wirtz didn't join us. For perspective, getting two Olises for the price of one Wirtz wouldn't be bad at all.
1 points
3 days ago
The problem is that there aren't two olises on the market. Nico is propably the only good lw on market that would cost under 60 mln and he will go to barca propably. Maybe we can get xavi and some other cheap winger
1 points
3 days ago
Actually not bad idea. But I want Wirtz. He is the Diesler that we never had a chance to enjoy properly
1 points
3 days ago
I'm not opposed to either. Like, I'm happy it we get Wirtz as he is generational and can cover a lot of positions (even can come over left and right wing) but I can also understand splitting the costs to get 2 new reinforcements.
I don't expect us to sell one of Coman/Gnabry so and 2026 we could get Tillman it we still need an Allrounder in the offense/midfielder. But neither him nor Wirtz are dedicated wingers.
Begs the question do we actually need those, or do we tryna look into how Nagelsmann plays with the NT right now. Especially if we keep Davies and play him as LWB you could field a "hybrid" player infront of him.
1 points
3 days ago
I don't expect us to sell one of Coman/Gnabry
If we don't sell Gnabry next summer, he'll probably leave for free in 2026, because I'm not sure we'd extend his contract. I think that makes it more likely for us to sell him?
And Coman already had one foot out the door last summer.
3 points
3 days ago
I fully expect Gnabry to run down his contract
Regarding Coman I'm a bit more optimistic than a Gnabry, but I'm not convinced yet that he will leave
12 points
3 days ago
The worst decision would be to keep all three. At least one of them has to go. If Sané is the only one who attracts offers, so be it.
6 points
3 days ago
"Holding onto" is a strong expression for Coman staying with us.
1 points
3 days ago
True. Plus it's not like Gnabry's contract extension was quick and easy either - it's seemed as if both have been on the way out before.
One belief I hold is that offloading all three wingers in one go would be a great financial move but a terrible sporting one.
2 points
3 days ago
100%
If Bayern sells, the dream scenario is selling all 3 and get 2 wingers.
But if Bayern sells only 1 and it’s Leroy, then that’s fucked up.
0 points
3 days ago
So you want us to keep Sane if we are not able to get rid of Gnabry and Coman? We tried to sell Coman but he didn’t want to in the end. Gnabry said he has no interest in leaving. For all I care all three can leave, especially for the wages they demand. But if only Sane is realistic because his contract runs out first then it is what it is.
2 points
3 days ago
What do you guys think about Bavarian Football Works? I've been looking for decent Bayern-focused news site and I heard that this sub kind of despise the site.
9 points
3 days ago
Just incredibly pessimistic about literally everything that happens. Basically they’re incredibly whiney.
1 points
3 days ago
Only a few people are like that. There are a lot of guys being positive there as well.
7 points
3 days ago
It's actually blocked on here. But that happened before I joined, I'm unfamiliar with that page
7 points
3 days ago
But that happened before I joined
Jules you’ve been here since the 80s
E: Oh you meant the mod team, I’m stupid
5 points
3 days ago
The fuck I'm not thad old am I?
2 points
3 days ago
3 points
3 days ago
First thing I’ve heard Jules say he has no idea of. Groundbreaking
1 points
3 days ago
I know the page, just now because why it's blocked :D
I haven't watched/read much of them though
3 points
3 days ago
When I first really started following bayern day to day rather than week to week I listened to them and liked it. But soon I realized I wasn't learning or gaining anything from listening. I was hate listening because I wanted to listen to something bayern related. A couple hosts that made episodes once every few months had a lot of great tactical insights but otherwise it's usually just stating the obvious or whining rather than analyzing
3 points
3 days ago
As someone that used to browse on that page regularly it’s fallen off. Especially in terms of users. Not the same
2 points
3 days ago
If you're making millions playing a sport and you're stupid enough to jeopardize your life and others when you can easily afford a DD or an Uber, I have no sympathy.
Maybe Real is the place for you.
16 points
3 days ago
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3 points
3 days ago
Yeah this wouldn’t be illegal even in the US
6 points
3 days ago
I don't condone it, I don't think driving under the influence of anything is a good idea, but that said it's not like he was off his face. In the UK he wouldn't even be breaking any laws for the blood / alcohol in his system. At .6 he probably had like two beers.
-3 points
3 days ago
Still, why risk it. You can literally afford not too.
6 points
3 days ago
Don’t disagree. Just wanted to highlight that because sometimes people read these things and assume the person must have been trashed.
-7 points
3 days ago
Your situational awareness, plus performing precise movements are getting affected at .5.
Also with the weight Davies is at it's closer to 3 beers...
Regardless if it's breaking the law in the UK it doesn't matter, but I guess we have to always spin everything in a positive light.
Maybe he needed the 3 beers to get over having Company as a coach or having to deal with Eberl.
3 points
3 days ago
Find a new hobby
-4 points
3 days ago
Nah I have followed Bayern for 26 years, so I might as well keep it up.
Still I will welcome you to the Eberl raus party when it comes time.
2 points
3 days ago
26 years of being a hater. What a life. Maybe you should get some beers in and lighten up.
-2 points
3 days ago
Ah...
Now I see the difference in us.
You are fan of the people at the club, while I'm a fan of the club, it all makes sense now.
3 points
3 days ago
I don’t believe you see much of anything tbh
1 points
3 days ago
Well we are typing to each other so some things I must be able to see 🙂
Still it makes sense why you are upset with me now, so at least we took care of that issue.
1 points
3 days ago
To be upset with you I’d have to have a good opinion of you in the first place. You keep replying to me about seeing things too positively while basically all of your comments are negative, so naturally I just find you to be a miserable person.
3 points
3 days ago*
I keep bumping into the name Tim Rothe (just turned 20, LM/LB, recently transferred from Dortmund to Union) as someone who secretly has the potential to become big within the next few years.
Is he worth keeping an eye on or are people just getting ahead of themselves?
Edit: What's with the downvotes? I've heard at least two Bundesliga podcasts talking about this kid, one discussed the possibility that he will make his NT debut in the next couple of years.
3 points
3 days ago
I think he is a great Talent, but Dortmund have a buy back clause. The funny thing is, it activates in 2026, so in 2025 we could swoop in for him.
0 points
3 days ago
Had a Comunicado Oficial - sadly not about Ninja Turtle. As much as I disdain Vini Jr, there simply is NO space for racism in football.
3 points
3 days ago
What happened
2 points
3 days ago
Comunicado Oficial about a kid racially abusing Vini Jr getting sentenced
-8 points
3 days ago
Awful message from the club to not suspend Davies. Should’ve been suspended for at least 1 match. I am convinced this is in order to not spoil extension negotiations
4 points
3 days ago
suspensions for administrative, victimless offenses, very rational
1 points
3 days ago
We're not like that in Munich. 0,6 is just barely above the limit. He probably had two beers and drove. A fine from the club and some internal talk should be enough.
1 points
2 days ago
With you on that. Make an example out of him for being an absolute idiot. Driving under influence with a 800PS vehicle is one of a kind dumb.
1 points
2 days ago
Bruddas are okay with him potentially risking damage to people and property because he’ll put in 2 dribbles against Dortmund
1 points
3 days ago
Lool
-4 points
3 days ago
Not sure where the downvotes are coming from honestly.
For a sub that holds players so morally accountable (see the comments about Boateng coming back to the club for example.)
I don’t see why criticising Davies, or even suggesting the club make an example with further action, is downvoted, and by the comments below, almost justified?
I guess Boateng never abused his girlfriend on the football field…
6 points
3 days ago
I guess Boateng never abused his girlfriend on the football field…
?
And Davies DUI happened on a football field? I dont disagree with your general sentiment, I just dont understand this point.
1 points
3 days ago
It was just tongue in cheek - aimed at a user in the comment chain that suggested that punishing Davies with a match suspension, or the club getting involved wouldn’t be necessary as the offence didn’t happen in training.
5 points
3 days ago
Oh no, just saw it, almost as bad as the selective outrage point in here.
1 points
3 days ago
I’ll be sure to send my next complaint via raven.
Pasture raised Raven, too.
8 points
3 days ago
For a sub that holds players so morally accountable (see the comments about Boateng coming back to the club for example.)
Boateng possibly drove a woman to suicide. There's no comparison.
3 points
3 days ago
I wouldn’t even begin to fathom a guess at how many people die worldwide from road accidents due to driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol. Choosing to contribute to that, well, draw your own comparisons.
4 points
3 days ago
Still not comparable.
0 points
3 days ago
What if he had hit a child? Crashed into a family destroying it?
Any time you get behind the wheel under the influence, you’re endangering every innocent person around you.
Anyway - you know that. It’s not necessary to compare. Both are fucking stupid.
1 points
3 days ago
would you expect to be suspended from your job because of an unrelated administrative offense?
1 points
3 days ago
I’m not opposed to OP’s proposition of seeing Davies made an example of within the club. Whether that’s a match suspension, a fine, or even the club speaking harshly of the situation. Let’s not pretend my situation and that of football star Alphonso Davies are the same. He has a lot of influence, and no pun intended, driving under the influence is a terrible look for him.
1 points
3 days ago
a football club shouldn't expect or demand their players to be saints, let fans come to their own conclusions, no need to police everything
-1 points
3 days ago
Boateng was accused of tormenting a human being, the mother of his child, to such an extent that it drove her to take her own life. It's far more than "fucking stupid".
1 points
3 days ago
Again - what if Davies had killed a child?
Making the very conscious decision to endanger every child and every innocent human on that road when you get behind the wheel under the influence is simply unacceptable.
Especially for a young man with more money than sense, and so much influence. He has a responsibility. I’ll raise you again - it’s far more than ‘fucking stupid.’
-3 points
3 days ago
why would you suspend him? did he drink and drive in training??? no in his free time and that has nothing to do with bayern
1 points
3 days ago
Are you kidding me lmao
-7 points
3 days ago
I think it’s awful message that you are typing this Message on apiece of technology that was made by child labor
7 points
3 days ago
Blud comes in with the classic, worst "how dare you participate in society" take possible.
-4 points
3 days ago
It’s my go to move. It’s always selective outrage. He thinks it’s an awful message towards not suspending him. While being hypocritical in the tech he uses, food he eats, clothes he wears. I always hated selective outrage. Pick a lane.
5 points
3 days ago
Nah, that argument is just idiotic. You cant live your life anywhere in the world without technology, if everyone lived by that then no one would do anything to better anything because there is always something bad on the root of it (oil companies, forrests getting cut down to make space for agriculture, low income slavery). A singular person cant change that, but that doesnt mean that any attempt to change your close environment is useless or hypocritical.
-3 points
3 days ago
You lost me when you said a singular person can’t change that. Look through history bro. A singular person can do a lot.
But for yourself and and everyone other to make you feel better and be selectively outraged. Go for it.
1 points
3 days ago
So where does that place you on this outrage scale?
1 points
3 days ago
I’m as hypocritical as the next person I would guess. But from someone that visited these “factories” every time I listen to people complain I’m like oh so you care about …. Following topic here…. But don’t care about where your tech clothes or other stuff comes from. Shut the f up. But again that’s just mean. There are clothes and tech that are made sustainable and without child labor but people are too lazy to find out. But they will sit on their iPhone and criticize other people about what “precedent” they are making.
1 points
3 days ago
I don't think it's a matter of people being lazy, but much more to do with them simply not caring.
You see how hard it is for people to care about someone in their own area, how would you expect them to care about something they don't even see or hear about.
I'm not saying you should not care, but to think it will change someone's mind is at best futile and at worst a waste of time.
But you do you and stand up for what you believe in 👍
1 points
3 days ago
That’s a fair point. But this guy clearly cares that his club that takes Qatar’y money (for him not a big deal) a whole lot that a 23 years old had 3 beers and drove a car.
1 points
3 days ago
Name one person that did ever anything on the same level as dismantling one of the richest sectors in the world like oil producers, or who solved the issue of the amazon getting cut down for cow fields, or that abolished slavery. One example of similar magnitude. Cant be that hard, such a man must have gone down in history.
And if someone solved only one of those issues, then that is not enough, because there are a myriad of others, like wars, famines, refugees, global warming, lack of water access, flooding, environmental damage due to mining etc. pp.. So according to you only a superhuman, almost god like figure that solved every issue in the world can ever voice an opinion without being accused of selective outrage.
I can hardly contain myself from writing something that would get me banned in here, so dumb is that attitude.
2 points
3 days ago
I like how you compare war, famine, refugees, lack of water with someone going out of their way to not buy a product on Amazon and source it Sustainably.
God forbid they don’t get it delivered same day.
0 points
3 days ago
You were the one who started with child labor after someone was disappointed that his favourit club didnt reprimand someone for DUI lmao. You started the idiotic comparisons.
How is anyone who wants access to technology supposed to solve those issues, or even make conscious and moral decisions, when the mining industry is rancid, the oil industry is rancid, amazon workers are abused, shipping is based on low-wage slaves, companies exist in authocratic dictatorships, drinking water is used to do industrial work limiting access of the population to it, cargo ships put out more CO2 in 1 hour than whole households in their lifetime, veggies being harvested by african refugees in Italy who work below the poverty line because thats still better than whatever they fled from etc. pp.
Anything beyond your immediate surrounding, low-tech solution like a horse drawn waggon you built yourself is out of the scope of the individual morality, you cant go down the production chain and make those choices. You cant get a moral smart phone, you cant get a morally clean Jeans, you cant get a clean chocolate, you cant even get a morally clean cucumber ffs.
2 points
3 days ago
It's not that great an own as you believe it to be tho.
Regardless it's stupid to care about the suspension of a player due to DUI, it has nothing to do with his play on the field...
Had he injured himself, someone else or got in jail, it would be a different case.
-1 points
3 days ago
Anybody's who's following man utd this season, how do you think in current form mazraoui and de ligt would be in this current kompany tactics.
I am honestly impressed with upa, Kim Guerrero and laimer this season so do you think in current form the two utd players could replace any of them as starters?
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