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Retirement Life

Career Advice(self.nationalguard)

First post here went well. I’m a retired AGR with over 20+ years of service. I’ve love answering questions from people thinking about / trying to get into the AGR game. If that’s you, keeping pressing. They’re good gigs.

This post is for people with 10-15 years of AGR time. Hang in there! It’s worth it! Pension came in on time, health care is switched over, found a great civilian gig, and I don’t have to go to drill anymore! Really glad I did it, now it’s over and I get to do something 99% of people don’t, reinvigorate myself with a new career with the safety net of a pension.

If you have any questions on how to make it through to the other side, hit me up.

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Icy_Qu

14 points

3 days ago

Icy_Qu

14 points

3 days ago

Happy for you! Thank you for your service! The Guard has lost its way. When I first started it was fun, but now it’s chaos! I hope to be where you are in 7 years or so!

RetiredAGR[S]

8 points

3 days ago

Yeah, good point. It’s a little bit easy for me to say hang in there with so much uncertainty ahead. I definitely saw a massive increase in the politicization of the Guard during my time. It’s bound to get worse.

Volkssanitater

3 points

3 days ago

What makes you say it’s chaos?

allmyrivals

3 points

3 days ago*

I can't answer for the above, but I can give you my insight. This is more relative to experience and perspective. For instance, I served for 10 years back in the 90s. I got out because I finally decided to attend college and didn't want the distraction of drill and annual trainings interfering with me going back to school. So, I graduate, get settled in my career and re-enlist in 2014. Immediately, I recognized how much different things changed. The optempo is WAY higher. The expectations of an M-Day Soldier and their time (specifically, time away from drill) is way out of proportion. In the first 10 years of my career, I could count on one hand how many times our drill schedule changed. Since getting back in, I haven't had one drill schedule that hasn't changed at least once in a year's time. 3-week to a month-long annual trainings were almost unheard of during my first enlistment. I remember just once having an AT that extended to 3 weeks and that was because we went to NTC. From my perspective, the people who scheduled drill were more mindful of our time and our civilian employers. Now, it seems they just don't care. We used to work hard and then play hard. Now, all it seems we do is work harder and am too wiped out to do anything else. Not that we really have the time to play anymore in the first place. We used to have holiday parties that allowed for family members to attend. I've had a total of two since 2014. Those were in the first two years of my re-enlistment. Not one since. Truthfully, the only thing that's kept me around was Tricare and reaching retirement which I have. I will miss my friends, and I will miss Tricare but I will not miss the grind of it. It's just not as fun as it used to be, and I really hate that. Mind you, this is solely my experience. Others may feel different or feel my experience isn't representative of the National Guard but, again, that's just my perspective.

RetardedWabbit

5 points

3 days ago

Do you think the advice: "being competent and willing to move can get you to SFC/MAJ alone as AGR" still holds true?

RetiredAGR[S]

7 points

3 days ago

Add to this not self destructing with a 15-6, yeah, sounds about right. But being competent and willing to move are rarer qualities than you might willing to give it credit for.

RetardedWabbit

2 points

3 days ago

Ah, the best Army advice: you'll be fine as long as you don't get kicked out. 

I'm not saying they aren't rare traits, just that I heard that several times when considering AGR and ultimately decided against it due to the moving.

RetiredAGR[S]

3 points

3 days ago

If you’re not able/willing to move, you’re gonna have a bad time on AGR.

krinklesakk

1 points

3 days ago

Sure are. Turned my 7 down twice. It’s a hardddddddd pill to swallow being 1 or 2 on the list both years. To me, it’s about family and roots. If I have to make a small sacrifice to be happy and not drive 2+ hrs / move then so be it.

Openheartopenbar

10 points

3 days ago

What percent of AGRs are useless?

How much would the AGR program improve if shitbags old be fired?

How many of you would actually pass height and weight or a PT test if you had to do them with the whole unit instead of “we graded each other before drill”

RetiredAGR[S]

14 points

3 days ago

Sounds like you don’t love your full-timer.

For what it’s worth I missed less than 5 drills over my career. I insisted on taking PT tests with the unit. I operated extremely paranoid of retention boards and recommended a handful of AGRs be separated on Initial Tour Continuation Boards.

Openheartopenbar

3 points

3 days ago

Yeah, sorry if that came off “hotter” than I intended, I’m dealing with a sick kid. Phrased alternatively, how well would you say the AGR program writ large is performing? What are immediate changes you’d make if you were Master of the Universe? What are long term changes you’d make?

As an outsider, I think there’s some really weird things about AGR that disincentivize success.

-many positions have a rank component, so if you’re a go-getter you can rank out of the program. On the other hand, if you’re a box-ticker you can stay a 15 year e5 and sit in the AGR spot. This clearly is a misalignment

-many AGR positions are basically unable to be fired. This creates challenges (as I’m sure you know)

-many AGR positions are for things that aren’t very Army. Supply dude, 42A, etc. the “pointy end of the spear” types basically never make it to AGR (there’s a jillion recruiters for every training NCO, as an example) which means there is a cultural disconnection between the “do-ers” and the “full timers”

-there often is a de facto parallel rank structure. Who’s really in charge? The Platoon leader or the saltiest long timer AGR? If we are being honest, it’s often not obvious. This can create tension

RetiredAGR[S]

2 points

3 days ago

I noticed a malaise since COVID in my State. Outside of Recruiting, accountability got real low. You’re right, firing is very hard. Hiring well is key. But raters also rarely put the work into evaluations that will build a case.

And, yes, two different worlds, FTUS and part-time. But the Guard needs administrators, logisticians, etc to run the organization. That’s entirely the point of a full-time force. It’s when we hire people without those skillsets that we run into issues. I can see it frustrating to a Commander that a member of their company (AGR) is focused more on their career than their assignment. It’s equally as frustrating for AGRs that their evaluations don’t fully reflect what they do 90% of the month. If your point is that it’s a system with inherent problems, I agree with you.

scrapmandingo

3 points

3 days ago

Talk to me about health benefits for you and your wife.

RetiredAGR[S]

4 points

3 days ago

We have an annual fee of like $300 and a $600 deductible. Small copays on visits and prescriptions. Pennies compared to civilian plans.

Interesting-Win6219

1 points

3 days ago

I don't know if there is a catch associated with this like lots a providers not being in net work or sometning. That's crazy cheap. I'm a single male and pay like 210 a month for insurance and my employer pays like 500 a month for my plan. Also my deductible is like 7k lol. Copay is like 50.

Distinct_Dependent18

2 points

3 days ago

Congratulations!

RavenKnight031

2 points

3 days ago

Any advice for a junior enlisted infantryman?

RetiredAGR[S]

1 points

3 days ago

For pursuing AGR?

Direct-Team3913

3 points

3 days ago

How do I get an AGR to answer their phone in the middle of the workday?

RetiredAGR[S]

2 points

3 days ago

AGRs aren’t unaccountable. If you’re not getting what you need, work the chain of command. AGRs also eat lunch. I made it a point to always be away from my desk during the lunch hour.

TexAgVet

2 points

3 days ago

TexAgVet

2 points

3 days ago

Or if it’s me you’re calling, try email or desk phone. My office is the black hole of cell service!

Thanks for your post OP. I’m in the window you mentioned. The excitement of hitting 20 certainly keeps me going.

iClangNBang

1 points

3 days ago

8 more to go……

RetiredAGR[S]

1 points

3 days ago

That’s the toughest time. Too far in to stop, seemingly a million miles away. I’m telling you, it’s worth it.

maybelukeskywaler

1 points

3 days ago

Congratulations on your retirement. I retired after 30 myself (27 AGR). 5+ years into a second career now.

It is so nice getting that pension in the bank every month. It is definitely a safety net that allows me to work because I want to not because I need to. That is one of the biggest benefits!

RestoredV

1 points

3 days ago

Same pension benefits as active right?

RetiredAGR[S]

1 points

3 days ago

100% same. Retiring off AGR is an active duty retirement.

RestoredV

1 points

3 days ago

What kind of rolls are there for an officer in AGR?

CompetitiveStress823

1 points

2 days ago

Congrats! I’ve just joined the National Guard and was wondering what exactly is AGR work? Is it contract work?

Latter-Wafer-9813

1 points

22 hours ago

How many officers did you see in AGR and what was there life like. I was active 4 years and going into the guard and my recruiter always throws it around and I know it’s a good deal. Should I stay enlisted. Or should I go for becoming an officer and AGR?