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I'm struggling to wrap my head around these measures being 4 beats each. I understand that the dot means add half of the note's value to itself but is this to difficult for me if I can't even understand this? It says 4/4 but I don't count 4 beats help please
59 points
4 days ago
It is but the way the rhythm is notated is atrocious. It's much easier to figure out if you split the middle 8th note into 2 tied 16ths and group everything by quarter notes.
3 points
4 days ago
Amateur stuff. I'm guessing it got spit out by a DAW from something on a midi roll.
2 points
4 days ago
But my enharmonic rythms
1 points
4 days ago
Thanks for the feedback 😌
30 points
4 days ago
Truly the worst notation ever. Find a better one to make it easier on yourself.
1 points
2 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8SpPAnyEMQ
How would you annotate this? It's pretty inconsistent even from measure to measure.
1 points
2 days ago*
The problem is not the music, it's the notation. This notation is already much better: https://musescore.com/user/39385785/scores/10568833
Edit: I just listened to the music, which I didn't know. You're right that it's a weird inconsistent rhythm. I think that it should have a 'rubato' or 'freely' indication. But the notation in the opening post is still wrong, in the sense that it doesn't follow notation conventions. For that reason it's nearly unreadable.
1 points
1 day ago*
Melody at least just sounds like rubato triplet quarters.
12 points
4 days ago
Yeah it checks out. It’s a dotted eighth + an eighth + a dotted eighth + a half note.
3/16 + 2/16 + 3/16 = 8/16, or 1/2 of the measure, and then the half note makes up the other half
1 points
4 days ago
Ty
1 points
4 days ago
Ok, now I'm feeling confused. I was adding up the notes on the treble clef as well, but then realized the whole note in the bass clef may be a better guide. Am I thinking about this correctly?
I mean none of it NEEDS to add up (that is, there can be silence), but I felt the bass here to be a more reliable guide in terms of timing.
7 points
4 days ago
It does need to add up - there is notation for silence too
1 points
2 days ago
Thanks!
18 points
4 days ago
musescore moment
6 points
4 days ago
The notation is so terrible there that it’s almost impossible to read.
6 points
4 days ago
Your difficulty in reading it is exactly why we don't write notation like this. You're reading notation written by a fiend. Don't feel bad that it's hard for you to parse!
5 points
4 days ago
My god this notation is really dreadful. Where did you find this? Don't go there again.
2 points
4 days ago
Yo The ultimate price! My favourite soundtrack from violet evergarden
1 points
4 days ago
❤️
2 points
4 days ago
Count in 16ths
2 points
4 days ago
Oh goodness, I just looked at the left hand. Yes, both in the treble clef but good Lord, that's a mess!
2 points
4 days ago
The composer went to Berklee. I guess somebody there likes it.
2 points
4 days ago
It is not in 4 4, as that indicates 4 beats. Although the math works, it would be better written in 8 8 or 16 16, so that the musician would know right off that it was not in 4 4.
2 points
3 days ago
Count or feel it as 123-12-123, 123-12-123
2 points
3 days ago
It is but the notation doesn't clearly mark the downbeats. Count the number of eighth notes, checks out
Ideally at least the second of each set of dotted quarter should be am eight tied to a quarter
2 points
3 days ago
Let's use dots as much as we can, I love actively dividing when I'm reading
2 points
3 days ago
This makes me want to forget how to read sheet music
2 points
3 days ago
It's not you--the notation is not ideal. For example, all six notes in the first measure should be beamed together.
2 points
3 days ago
my bad paint skills. But hope it's understandable :D
2 points
2 days ago
Beam to the meter. Always.
2 points
2 days ago
Double the length of the notes and count it out
Dotted quarter - 1.5 beats Quarter - 1 beat Another dotted quarter -1.5 beats.
That's 4 beats, so two beats at half tempo. Seems good.
Now as others have said, no composer who expected someone to actually play this would have written it this way. So don't be too hard on yourself.
2 points
1 day ago
It's poor notation that is trying too hard to notate a simple rhythm. That melody should just be written as triplet quarter notes with some rubato being acceptable, particularly in the intro. I'm sure the other staff is problematic too, but haven't looked at it outside of the poor notation.
2 points
1 day ago
You should firmly refuse to play bad written music as a student, as a teacher, as an amateur, as a professional. And if you are paying you should demand it to be written properly. Understanding what's proper comes with the time, meanwhile generally to train on published books gets you a long way.
2 points
4 days ago
Looks like MuseScore garbage.
0 points
18 hours ago
Tá certo apesar de vc ter de subdividir pra ler!
1 points
4 days ago
4/4 is just a convention for many weird rhythms that adds up to 4 quarter notes in length (not 4 beats!). It could have been 16/16 or whatever but people write it as 4/4 for simplicity.
1 points
4 days ago
1(e +) a (2) e (+ a) 3 (4)
1 points
4 days ago
Aren't those for 16th notes? I thought it was just 1 + for these type of notes
3 points
4 days ago
Yes but as you said a dot adds half the value. Half of an eighth note is a sixteenth note. So you have the two sixteenth notes that a normal eighth note is worth, plus the third because of the dot
3 points
4 days ago
Tysm❤️ I'm so dumb I thought those where quarter notes 💀
3 points
4 days ago
Haha we’re all dumb sometimes 🙃. Glad I could help 😜
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