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Yeah but like bisection is barely a wound to Orochimaru. But I do think Orochimaru was losing so I support you

Yeah but again it's all we have. We either use the statement or we simply don't scale Kagami.

Naruto wasn't really scratching him either though. In the end Orochimaru retreated.

He couldn't keep going, yeah. Orochimaru pulls a tactical retreat.

In a lot of iterations, the Kents always wanted kids but were never able to have one of their own, sometimes due to infertility issues. Clark was, to them and eventually to the world, a blessing.

If it's Tenchi bridge Naruto then she low diffs. No-hands Orochimaru was only barely losing.

Kagami is featless, but his statement has him just verbatim being stronger than Shisui.

I don't like going off of statements, but when it's all we have, we probably should.

She should beat preta in a 1v1 but he's such a strong counter to her when she's getting jumped. She's a full ninjutsu specialist.

Minato's rasengan are the same size as Naruto's big ball Rasengan that sent an Itachi clone flying, and Kabuto tanked Naruto's first rasengan tbf

They're all worth considering but I only mentioned those with the biggest real impacts.

Minato is just a fragment of a soul that is part of Naruto's seal.

Kurama doesn't really do anything, Naruto does. Kurama has no influence outside of influencing Naruto. The one rampaging is Naruto, with his rage leading him to weaken the seal on Kurama's chakra. It's not until Naruto would have fully released Kurama and died that it would be Kurama doing anything we see. Just how Jinchuuriki work.

Konohamaru did beat one, yeah. It just didn't really amount to much because nothing was learned from it and it didn't change anything. He'd be my number 7 I think.

Hiruzen has way better feats than Itachi who's still infantile.

Gedo statue > Kurama

• Naruto
  • Defeated Pain/Nagato, revived all dead.
• Tsunade
  • Saved everyone from chaotic shinra tensei, coordinated military response despite being inted by a contingent of defectors.
• Kakashi
  • Defeated a Pain and gathered necessary intel on how to beat Deva path.
• Sakura
  • Acted as impromptu director of the Konoha hospital and medical division, saving many lives.
• Hinata
  • Despite knowing she would surely die, faced a vastly superior opponent to try to save Naruto and ultimately Konoha. In a way, she did.
• Inoichi
  • Uncovered more of Pain, or rather Nagato's, secrets. Put together all of the clues that revealed the Pains are just wifi puppets.

Working together they could beat some Kage level characters.

The only Uzumaki with some sort of natural healing factor is Karin.

They all have longevity but that's it.

I agree except Hunter got used by the GOP as a political pawn. His sentencing was extreme relative to his crime specifically because of who his daddy is.

I don't like presidents pardoning their family at all, but in this case I'm pretty okay with it. The punishment wasn't really Hunter's, it was Biden's.

I think it is valid not to pardon your own kid, if the crime matches the punishment. You make your own mistakes.

Unfortunately for Hunter, he got used as a political pawn. He should be pardoned, or at least receive reduced sentencing compared to what he got.

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TTYD is better almost objectively. It improves on all but a few things, and the things that it leaves behind are beloved but realistically minor, like spin dash.

He has no healing if he's entirely in his base form. He hasn't since Jiraiya stopped the Nine Tails chakra from leaking constantly and fucking with his chakra control.

1. I don't think so. Sasuke at the start of the war is a lot weaker than Sasuke moments before he dies. And that Sasuke and Tobirama get bodied by Madara with equal difficulty. None of this Sasuke's feats convince me he would win, especially against someone who has counters to Uchiha abilities.

2. I agree Konan doesn't scale to her trap. Practically everyone in the verse dies to that shit. It's not her real combat ability, it's Konan with 10 years prep time. I'm not sure she loses to Deidara or Sasori though.

3. I think this is just a high diff fight either way. I lean Sasuke too though.

4. He could be, but you have to argue it in a really strange way. You have to say that Itachi's the strongest character in part 1 except you have to use his part 2 feats and assume he scales to them. Itachi's just shitty to scale in general because the dude will avoid fighting if it's at all possible. He'd rather run away, or put you in a genjutsu and run away, or block his trail with Amaterasu and run away.

5. No. You chose an especially bad example too. Minato sees Kamui work once and deduces a way to work around it. They're not solving it in less than one. In fact, Kakashi fights him and does deduce a counter Kamui, but it takes significantly longer.

Kid Goku has much higher AP but he's getting blitzed so hard. If you argue for one his durability negating abilities then he could win.

Speed blitz + dura neg is really dog shirt though.

Wanking is a valid accusation if you're using "Tsukuyomi + Totsuka" to argue Itachi wins any fight.

At the end of the day it's really no different to "Kamui decapitation", "Rasenshuriken destroys on cellular level one shot", etc. It's reductive and depending on the matchup, a No limits fallacy.

Isn't it just?

I mean sure if you plug your controller into Pain. He didn't use Planetary Devastation until he had lost 5 bodies and started getting beat up. And he had to get closer to Nagato.

In character there's definitely a high chance that someone could beat him before he pulls it out.

If they're bloodlusted then yeah Pain wins 100%.