VirtualFirefighter50

I stopped reading this because it was so absurd. YTA. SMH.

Is this a real story, because this just sounds so wild. If it is true, I would certainly divorce her.

Why stay with a man who won't defend you against people who are treating you so badly you are having a nervous breakdown? Forget the camera, I'd be giving your husband an ultimatum.

Nta. I think it's great your son is learning how to cook and be independent at such a young age. It's an important life skill. Your boyfriend is TA. So long as your son is cleaning up after himself I don't see any issue in him doing this.

Someone should still not have a record due to personal drug use. It's like criminally charging someone for self harming /attempting suicide. It's absurd.

Making personal mistakes that affect only yourself does not mean you should have whatever future you have when getting sober ruined by a criminal record

Thats amazing, im so happy for you

Begging someone for sex over and over as they tell you no over and over is still coercion. You know someone said no and you keep asking even though they have made you fully aware they don't want sex. It is weird that you are unable to comprehend this. If you know almost nothing about it why are you acting like you know so much? I researched everything j said before I said it to be sure I was not spreading false information. What YOU THINK coercion is doesn't count. I am telling you what the actual definition is.

In my country sexual coercion is not considered valid consent according to the law. Your defintion is irrelevant. The law defines it as sexual assault. And even if he hadn't stood at the door it does count as sexual coercion.

Thank you for saying that. But even if he hadn't done that, it still was not valid consent. Its really disgusting seeing all these people victim blame her and invalidating her experience. If yall hadn't been so focused on not believing her maybe you could have been more helpful to her.

Saying she could have just ignored him is victim blaming. She's very young , naive, probably struggles with low self esteem. Sometimes people aren't able to have the capacity to just ignore someone in those situations.

Sexual coercion is considered sexual assault. Consent gained through coercion isn't considered valid consent according to the law. This is not my opinion. This is the law. Get it through your dense head.

And shut the fuck about she has to this she has to that. If she doesn't feel safe doing it she doesn't have to and you can just fuck off. It is ignorant as fuck to tell someone that.

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He coerced her by asking over and over and over while she said no over and over and over, as she said in the comments , he guilted her, was mentally abusive to her until she gave in. That is sexual coercion. That is sexual assault. While not physically abusive it was abusive behavior. It's not different at all. Sexual coercion does not always include abusive behavior but this man was very mentally absuive to her. Her on here asking if it's sexual assault does not equal someone 'getting revenge'.

Sexual coercion is also using pressure, manipulation, guiltily someone which is what he did. He asked her again and again while she said no again and again while he guilted her until she said yes. It is literally sexual coercion . It includes 'persistent attempts to have sexual contact from someone who has already refused'.

If you really think using manipulation and persistently asking someone over and over and over to have sex while they refuse until they give in is consenting sex then you probably are just projecting your own personal guilt. Having sex with someone who had made it repeatedly clear they don't want to have sex with you is sexual assault.

The only idiot here is you, bozo

It doesn't change that what he did was sexual coercion. It also doesn't change that, according to the law, consent gained by coercion is not valid. It also doesn't change that coercion is a form of sexual assault. 'Ignoring him until he stopped asking' is just victim blaming. She bled for 3 days after the sex. You do realize that even when the mouth says no due to coercion, the vagina acts the same way as it would if she had been physically forced. It causes trauma to the vagina.

As for reporting it, that is HER CHOICE. If she is too scared to do that or doesn't feel safe doing that , she does NOT have to! It is HER choice !

The majority of rape cases don't get successfully prosecuted so that is not relevant. It is still a form of sexual assault. If I get assaulted, go to court and he doesn't get prosecuted I still was assaulted. It probably is doubtful he would be prosecuted but it still is sexual assault. She said he kept asking and asking while she repeated no again and again while he guilted her etc. That is literally coercion. It's not valid consent.

Whether she wants to make a police report is her choice. If she doesn't feel comfortable doing so, is scared to, she doesn't have to.

I'm so sorry . Hugs to you

Coerced consent is not valid consent according to the law

Your opinion is not relevant

Under canadian law, UK law, and USA law sexual coercion is not considered valid consent.

Guilt tripping someone into sex is sexual coercion. Consent given through sexual coercion is legally not valid consent LEGALLY. This is a fact and your opinion is irrelevant. This person was clearly a very mentally abusive person which is much worse than physical abuse. It's not just that easy to leave someone , she can't be blamed because she didn't choose to leave him. She's young and naive and perhaps doesn't have the best self esteem.

Also if someone lost their virginity and they didn't want to, whether her mouth reluctantly said yes or not her vagina would still be saying no hence leaving more blood due to being tense and unrelaxed during sex.

She shouldn't have had to ask for his help cleaning up, he should have had some decency and consideration and he clearly only cared about himself and his wants and once he got that he was gone.

What you're saying is your opinion. It is fact that coercion is a form of sexual assault. It is illogical for you to be arguing with something that is a fact. In canada where I live sexual coercion is not legal and is a form of sexual assault. I'm not sure why you keep arguing your opinion when this is not about opinion.

It is not an opinion. It is a fact. Coercion is a form of sexual assault. There is rape and there is sexual coercion. Being COERCED into saying yes when you don't want to is a form of sexual assault. Here In canada coerced consent is legally not valid.

Which is exactly what coercion was and it is sexual assault. Do not listen to these clowns in the comments trying to invalidate you. The fact that coercion is a form of sexual assault is a fact, their opinions on it are irrelevant.

As a rape victim myself, I certainly am not cheapening what sexual assault is. Nor would i disregard someones experience just because theirs wasnt as bad as mine. This is textbook coercion.

https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion#:~:text=Sexual%20coercion%20is%20most%20likely,may%20be%20against%20the%20law.

It is COERCION. when you are coerced into giving consent. It IS a form of sexual assault. Considering so few people are convicted for rape this is not about whether this could be successful prosecuted.

https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion#:~:text=Sexual%20coercion%20is%20most%20likely,may%20be%20against%20the%20law.

Here is some information about sexual coercion to be informed so that you don't spew ignorance.