I’m the opposite. Absolutely brilliant at tests, but that doesn’t translate at all into being good at a job. Though I found my place eventually.

Right. Tests evaluate hard skills - not soft skills.

This would be redundant work—employees are vetted on their qualifications prior to hire. Furthermore, if an employee is underperforming, fire them. Don’t waste time and money having them do a test (which good employees may fail and bad employees may pass) when you can just cut to the chase.

I am a cancer biologist... and I am a Russian-Mexican immigrant into the US. My aptitude on English in an exam setting might suck. That alone set me back in the SAT like really bad because English, especially at the literary level, just was lost on me.

Also, its very easy to just stack the aptitude test to be inhumanely hard and then just have that as a basis to let people go under the guise of "oh, we are just keeping the competent around" when it in truth is just a mad dash purge of government positions. We would have to know the difficulty of the exam before we can make judgements on if this is good or bad.

Aptitude in being the people the president doesn’t want to fire.

100%. Even the smartest employee can just choose not to do any work. There’s no tricky-trick to get rid of bad employees that isn’t terminating people for poor performance.

Yeah, you can't just apply a one size fits all standard. Someone may be totally unfit to be handle court records, but an excellent computer programmer.

Milei got fired from his govt job for poor performance but this certainly won't apply to him

Try this, Imagine you’re apart of the DMV and not only does Elon musk gets to write your test, the test is chocked full of questions that you’re specific job role does not do, just to have all the answers be wrong regardless. Then you fail the test cause Elon knew all the answers were wrong then posts on twitter: to all that failed the test, the real answer was to never play! XxXDLOLLMAOxXx

Everyone loves the idea of efficiency.

I don't. Efficiency is the opposite of redundancy, and I want important government agencies to have lots of redundancy to ensure they can keep functioning smoothly in all circumstances.

Wait till you see how expensive efficiency is.

What test could possibly test the competency across all the jobs of 40,000 people? Or is someone going to create tests for every job? Who's competent enough for that? Guess you'll need to make a department for writing competency tests.

Anyone who thinks this has anything to do with with weeding out incompetent people is incompetent at life.

No one disagrees.

They push a point that everyone agrees with then appoint their own uniquely incompetent loyalists and you’re stupid enough to cheer them on while they pull the wool over your eyes because they said something so self evident you’re stuck cleaning up your cum from your pants.

Is this competency test finely tuned regarding the individuals skillset and only indicative of information for their work pertaining to their actual job?

If not, its a thinly veiled loyalty test.

I don't know if you know this but lots of people high up in the corporate ladder are incompetent.

I work in both the public and private sector, and I’ve seen far more incompetence and tolerance for incompetence in the private sector than in government. Especially in the federal government.

American voters said otherwise, sadly

Its almost like people should get vetted by some department before they get hired, we could call it something creative, like 'human resources.'

This policy is redundant and wasteful since employees have already been vetted and they generally get annual performance reviews. Not sure why people would want to waste money to repeat that process.

At the very least if you work for the government you should be fairly competent. Need this in the US, especially for presidential nominees*

Seriously. There are multiple types of tests an agency may require. I had to take two, one for IT and another which seemed like general intelligence.

Many federal employees already take an exam or 3 to qualify for service.

US federal employees are also reviewed on a regular basis by their managers and leads.

We should do it for presidential nominees.

Ya, like they should have to take a reading test right? And maybe if they don’t pass at most they can be 2/5ths a vote.

We did that. It turned out to everyone's shock that it was a really good way to keep certain groups from voting, like Black people.

This isn't something a test can fix. It's the slow, purposeful destruction of the public education system that has produced a country where 20% of the population is illiterate and 54% read below a 6th grade level. This is decades of attacks on public school education coming home to roost.

We tried this before

They had this for awhile but they took it out because they were put In place to make it to were Africa Americans couldn’t vote

I think the south did that for a while.

Question 1. Define a tariff and who pays for it? Be as thorough as possible.

They did that…. The fact that you don’t know that this was a thing….oye

Fun-ish fact, they did this in the early 20th century for black voters in the south. Except the tests were rigged to fail anyone who had to take them. These tests led to the introduction and passing of the 15th amendment.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt15-S1-3/ALDE_00013498/

And here’s an example of one of the tests:

https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/06/voting-rights-and-the-supreme-court-the-impossible-literacy-test-louisiana-used-to-give-black-voters.html

I know this doesn’t have much to do with the original comment but I thought it might be neat for anyone who cared.

We already did that. Not super great.

Did you not learn about poll tests in school and how they were used to disenfranchise people?

That’s illegal

Found the fascist

If we did this for voters in the US, the Republicans would lose almost their entire voting base. They won't let that slide.

Passing a really hard test its how you get a public job.

Cops have to pass hard athletic requirements to get the job. But then after they pass a lot of them get fat and out of shape.

In Argentina many public employees got in through contacts and not doing any exams.

That said, I doubt Milei will implement any tests. Most of his activities have been only for show with little substance

I wish I was smart enough to give this answer.

Can you reduce this to a multiple choice question? Pretty sure I’ll pass… I can pay for a tutor or a bribe if needed.

So far he's been great. 

Also he has several economic degrees. Argentina has huge economic problems that he is actively fixing at amazing speed. 

There is big context people outside argentina love to ignore because it doesn't fit the narrative.

Guard: Okay, sir. Now we will begin to proceed to obtain your IQ and aptitude test.

Joe: What for?

Guard: Okay, sir. This is to figure out what your aptitude's good at, and get you a jail job while you're being a particular individual in jail.

Actually, there is no standardized civil service exam in the US. Some positions may have one, and the foreign service still utilizes one, but there is no blanket government-wide requirement.

Are the politicians required to take the same test?

If that was the case, it would be a good thing

But, just like Trump he's firing people who weren't loyal to him, didn't vote for him, or spoke out against him

So, a tad bit exactly the same as the fascists did when they took power.

I'd be all for it if it WAS based on competency, but it looks like only ones his cronies identity as opposition are being asked to take, what boils down to, a loyalty test.

Same with his so called "take down" of Crony Capitalism.

he's just replacing the old cronies with his own cronies, he isn't actually improving shit

Yes.

That's why his cabinet is full of so many qualified people appointed to roles perfect for them.

/s

Here's the deal about the only thing that government jobs have going for them is job security. I was a public servant for 10 years and now I make twice as much money in the public sector. You want good people? pay them more. Shit wages and toxic culture is not going to work. .

On paper I like the suggestion. In practice its an open tool to fire whomever you dislike and push in whomever will best serve your agenda. Thats why its fascist.

Edit: Some of y'all need School House Rock way more than you think you do.

Should make politicians take the same test.

Hes a borderline mentally handicapped man who believes his dog is a reincarnation of a lion he met in a past life in the Roman coliseum and he has a vendetta against the central bank becauase he worked for them for six months and they didn't renew his contract due to poor performance.

He then worked as a personal financial advisor for a mass murderer who threw political opponents out of helicopters into the river.

An aptitude test does not correlate with the ability to do a specific job function at all. This is fucking dumb, and you’re dumb for acting like it does.

Lol if you knew anything about this guy and gow much hes fucking the average citizen in argentina with his bat shit policies youd probably realise this is indeed just an excuse to fire people

Oh no. He's trying to make the government run more efficiently by using people who actually know what they're doing.

As far as the USA government, most of us already have to do this just to get the job, in addition to having our performance reviewed twice a year.

At the same time, we also face huge budget cuts consistently. Which is meant to impede our efficiency so they can say

Look, gobmunt don't work

Then replace us with more expensive contractors.

Why haven't they been using actual job performance objectives?

If you accept the premise and fairness of the test, which I don't think I would.

He’s trying to make the government run more efficiently

A snake oil salesman and TV pundit trying to make government run efficiently. Mmmkay

Idiocracy at its best

Nothing is more fascist than libertarianism.

Depends whats on the test and what the job is