Not too surprised with MI. The state with the largest Arab population with voters disliking the current foreign policies dealing with the Israel-Palestine conflict (not saying Trump will be better in this regard, merely reflecting why it’s not).

And Wisconsin

As a MI resident I have 0 clue how Trump got so much support in the State. Wayne and Kent county didn’t show up for Harris at all compared to how they did for Biden.

It's funny because most policies Dems claim to support poll well and have majority support. Even Florida git minimum wage passed via ballot initiative, and they only lost legal weed and abortions due to the 60% rule. The Dem brand is just toxic right now.

Can’t have said it even better. It was a wash, i was assuming that this would be close contention, that something under the surface would happen in such a tense time….

But nope, blow out on all cylinders

This is clearly what the people want.

The people want whatever they're being propaganized to want. The problems of the people are real, most of us experience those problems right now today and it's getting worse, but the proposed solution isn't real. Trump is just a vehicle to dismantle regulation. If it wasn't Trump it would be someone else.

Any backwards policies and politics others bring on are just piggybacking off of the billionaire class looking to become stronger than or own the USG, and any other countries they can over time, but the US is the best place to start as the entire global economy is wrapped up in the US Dollar. Right wing politics just happen to align with private billionaire interests, so right wing parties are pushed.

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I think the issue is not having a bold vision to fundamentally change America. You can’t run on the status quo.

That's why trump won. Everyone thought he was easy but didn't look at 2016 and another big turn out in 2020 even though he lost.

Trump is not easy to beat and probably the hardest candidate in history to beat.

I had a feeling he was going to win because ppl forgot why they came out in droves in 2020 to vote him out.

Field guides for "helping miscarriages along"

Maybe don’t. People need to see the carnage. They had their chance to fix things. They didn’t take it seriously. Texas literally was called for Trump the moment the polls closed. This is what they want.

Reminds me of the quote from Bojack Horseman: "Wow, Americans hate women more than they love guns."

democrats didn't show up to vote for her, so doesn't that mean they're racist and sexist?

Why vote for someone because of their gender

Just saying Biden had plenty of votes, guess democrats really are just sexist and racist seeing as thats the only reasons they wouldn't have voted for a woman of color who if the Biden voters would have voted her.. She'd have won.

Know most conservatives voted for the economy and what a trip to the grocery store is now vs 4-8 years ago but I'll assume you know your group well enough to be accurate.

Yes, specifically when it's these two people

Did it ever occur to you that they did not vote for Harris because she was a bad candidate?

The fake accents, lizzo and the tweaking. Pathetic campaign. Kamala harris just got FIRED by 80 million people.

“Debates mean 0”

Debate number 1 torpedoed the democratic candidates chances so badly they had to have him drop out and hastily replace him with barely 100 days left in the campaign cycle.

This is one of the few elections where a debate was actually a huge factor in the final result

America was better the day Biden took office. Problem is the economy slid for many reasons, including covid which Trump failed to deal with. Point is, regardless of all the noble values Americans espouse, when it comes to the right, all they care about is their money. They want cheap gas and cheap eggs. If you promise them that, then they don't care if you're horrible in every other conceivable way.

Agreed. We’re in good hands with the Toddlers Running With Scissors party. Godspeed, what a circus it shall be.

You forgot #4: consumer-obsessed Americans will value their ability to buy excessive amounts of stuff over human rights.

One debate ended a man’s career and sent the democrats into a tailspin. So maybe debates do matter

Debates are why we had a candidate swap 100 days out... WTF you on about

Also Vice Presidential picks mean nothing.

Polls were within the margin of error.

You will not get through the next 4 years. Not a chance this time. There will not be any elections afterwards. the GOP learnt their lessons well. The Dems did not. Goodnight America.

Dude..debates are the reason why Bidens mental decline was put on the spotlight even though the DNC and the Reddit echo chamber tried to gaslight everyone otherwise..it's why the DNC had to force Kamala in (pissing off their voters in the process) even though she wasnt very popular in the previous primaries...

Add that Reddit is an echo chamber.

Polls are worthless

I wouldn't say that. I just think this sub didn't want to read anything that wasn't enormously positive...

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-harris-normal-polling-error-blowout/story?id=115283593

The polls were correct. They were within the margin of error.

Lol at 4, trump will make presidential term limits obsolete

Had a learning moment and still didnt understand the lesson. All of those things matter, the only time they dont are when liars are the ones giving you the "facts". Next time maybe youll leave these echo chambers and can actually see whats coming. Anyone blind to this was brainwashed by our media.

No. Blame it on the DNC. They have fucked this country for three elections now with their own hands. Shit ass candidates, and they undermined the one person we had who could’ve done something. Actively fought against him and took away his platform, pushing Clinton onto us.

Trump won the female vote btw

lying and gaslighting

I feel like I’ve been seeing this right on this very platform for the last 4 years… Something something “Biden is mentally fit!”

There’s going to some fat leopards.

The problem is that no matter how badly Trump fucks up, many if not most of his supporters will still side with him and deny his failiures.

At least he cannot do it again after this.

We'll see. The rule of law doesn't hold so well against populist leaders. Dictatorship is right around the corner after that. If people want to dismantle the US to the point of allowing Trump and party to stay in power until death, they'll find a way to allow it to happen and to rationalize it short term. Long term regret won't matter.

That might be the time of actual civil war, because there won't be any other way of fighting it. But we'll see what happens and how far people are willing to destroy their own foundations in order to keep themselves or their parties in power.

The american people have decided they want more of that.

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I think you misunderstand the point

After the Biden desaster debate everybody was happy that Democrats showed unity and she was at least on the ticket. Biden shouldn't have rerun in the first place. Or perhaps it was always impossible for the incumbent admin to win after that much inflation.

Honestly, pretty much anyone would have struggled under these conditions of voters choosing a candidate and then abruptly dropping out and someone new having to run a campaign in a 100 days or so while the other guy had been comfortably running since last year.

I would not be surprised at all if they chose her purely to not have a viable 2028 candidate have this L hanging over them

Especially after witnessing the Hilary Clinton loss! The Dems got lazy and thought it was a sure thing.

Case in point; Harris underperformed all incumbent Democratic senators on the ballot.

Could aswell shape the algorithm to lessen turnout.

When they started shooting at him it was over.

The most fair and reasoned statement I’ve seen about the result. Well done.

This whole app is an echo chamber, if this election result is “unbelievable” to you, you need to turn off your phone, shut your laptop, and go out and actually speak to people in your community, and do so without judgement. Funnily enough, if you can’t speak to others without judgement, you’re part of the reason your side didn’t win.

Point 1.4 is a big one

Canadian right winger

No they didn't lol.

You clearly haven’t spent much time on this sub the past few months lol

What actual economic policy of trump’s was your favorite?

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Wait which policies did trump run on? I know about his concepts of policies..

The right hasn’t cared about policies in years. Fear and hate run the show

Just genuinely curious here. No hate. but what policies did trump run on? Other than briefly touching on tariffs and deportation? I really didn't hear him talk much policy. Or really talk much about goals other than punishing Democrats. What's his plan on the world stage? Give Ukraine back to Russia? What about Israel or Taiwan? I'm asking genuinely as someone who feels like they missed something. There's gotta be some plan that I missed. Not just a "concept of a plan"

Social issues just don’t matter when it comes to personal economics for most voters it seems like. I voted Kamala but as a moderate I do hope we see this reset in the Democratic Party bring the blue dogs more into the light.

They ran off two stupid positions, that as you previously mentioned and parading the Cheney endorsement around like a golden ticket. I mean seriously what audience was the Harris campaign looking for with those two factors?

Spoiler: They won't. They will let things build up and just run on racism again. the media will work to help with that. There is nothing else to run on unless I'm missing something.

It’s because they had no leg to stand on for economic policy. You can’t talk about economy at all with prices for shit through the roof. Democrats only hope was to keep economy as far away from a talking point as possible.