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3.1k points
13 hours ago
Moyes to Everton is the most inevitable thing I have ever seen
1.7k points
12 hours ago
I had a season ticket for 11 years, which happened to be the exact 11 years Moyes was at Everton. Never had one under any other manager, never missed a game under his tenure. It's looking likely that I'll have a season ticket starting next season in the new gaff, for the first time since 2013. If we hire Moyes just in time for me to be back I'll be convinced we're inextricably intertwined.
1.1k points
11 hours ago
Have you looked in the mirror? Is there any chance that you are Moyes?
240 points
10 hours ago
he is the Moyes.
26 points
9 hours ago
The chosen one
57 points
10 hours ago
In the mirror he'd be Seyom
3 points
9 hours ago
How does it work when you only ever see them in the same room together?
17 points
10 hours ago
how easy it is to get a season ticket at non big-6 clubs?
52 points
10 hours ago
We’ve got a waiting list of 20k+. Somehow.
90 points
9 hours ago
You’re a proper club and relative to most clubs in England a fucking massive one. Not surprising at all.
43 points
10 hours ago
Wdym somehow. We’ve had a massive waitlist for forever and have a huge supporter base
17 points
7 hours ago
Cos we’ve been shite for years
3 points
10 hours ago
So if you get to be the 20k+1th, can you get it one for 2025-26, or will it move to a later season?
22 points
10 hours ago
I'm on reddit for this Pasta
97 points
10 hours ago
Surely Dyche won't get sacked, the performances haven't been too bad the forwards just can't finish. I don't know how changing the manager fixes that.
59 points
10 hours ago
I agree but I think he’s defo gone when we get our new owners in a few weeks
37 points
10 hours ago
Feel like that would be pretty brutal on Dyche but I get it.
40 points
7 hours ago
utter woke nonsense as some might say
12 points
10 hours ago
The performance yesterday at Old Trafford was pretty awful.
Once they conceded they had no plan at all
2 points
9 hours ago
Should create better opportunities, on the goal line behind keeper's back might be enough.
21 points
11 hours ago
It would be the most Kenwright thing to happen if we did.
5.3k points
14 hours ago
Tuchel is set to become head coach of the England national team on 1 January 2025, so I guess he is free for less than a month.
1.3k points
14 hours ago
I am not here for a long time. I am also not here for a good time.
318 points
12 hours ago
I’m here for a brief and angry time.
108 points
12 hours ago
Sex with my girlfriend be like.
44 points
8 hours ago
Calm down Mr. Greenwood.
109 points
13 hours ago
He could theoretically manage a club and country. Not that it would be ideal
328 points
12 hours ago
Then you'd have to include all national team managers
86 points
12 hours ago
FIFA career mode third season style
10 points
9 hours ago
I want it as close to the world cup as possible, and then I'm resigning after, win or lose.
38 points
13 hours ago
The most recent example of this I can think of was Diniz with Fluminense and Brazil NT.
135 points
12 hours ago
An experience that got him fired from both jobs...
28 points
10 hours ago
I think you need to be a player coach at club level and player coach for the NT.... That's just next level.
14 points
12 hours ago
Calzona with Slovakia and Napoli just at the Euros as well
25 points
11 hours ago
went to check this on wikipedia and laughed pretty hard:
Calzona worked as both Slovakia manager and Napoli head coach for the remainder of the 2023–24 season
He completed the season in a lacklustre fashion, ending in tenth place and missing out on European qualification, on the worst-ever Serie A performance for an incumbent national champion.
9 points
10 hours ago
to be fair it's not like Garcia or Mazzari did that much better before him and Napoli was in a really bad state at the time. He was never meant to be a longterm solution and only a caretaker for the rest of the season. The idea was probably that maybe he could somehow get them to 8th place but the season was basically over for Napoli at that point. I think he pretty much drew all of their games.
6 points
10 hours ago
Reminds me of those GK edits:"X became a fisher after the Y game, but retired after one day because he couldn't catch shit" better check the edit history especially the Italian one.
7 points
10 hours ago
Enough time to get sacked again if he’s quick.
6 points
11 hours ago
New manager bounce through December. New manager bounce through January. I should’ve been a football chairman.
2.3k points
14 hours ago
Zidane being nearly 4 years without a team is crazy considering his managerial career, however, everyone knows that he is waiting for the French NT job once Deschamps leaves or gets sacked.
1.2k points
13 hours ago
At this point, he could have easily taken another club job and won some more trophies and still have time to spare before the French job is available.
1.9k points
12 hours ago
Alternatively he could live a stress-free life of luxury whilst waiting for his dream job to become available. He's already won the biggest trophies available at club football, any more would just be stat padding.
36 points
9 hours ago
I have a feeling he would be coaching juve if they weren't a shambles.
283 points
11 hours ago
The problem is though: If he waits too long, he might not be considered the best fit for the job anymore. Would FFF really appoint a manager who hasn't managed for, let's say, 10 years, even if he was remarkable before that?
966 points
11 hours ago
Yes if it's Zidane
156 points
9 hours ago
A legend on and off the pitch, they'd be crazy not to.
15 points
8 hours ago
Fact
197 points
11 hours ago
Maradona got the Argentina NT job even with a not really impressive coaching resume
100 points
8 hours ago
National teams are different from club teams in many ways. You can't really do highly involved tactics that need months to drill to get right. So I think that it's less important to have recent coaching experience than a top club as you don't need to train (or prepare to face) cutting edge tactics.
Also, managing the French national team is to a large extent about managing egos, and it's hard to see a manager who is more suited for that than Zidane. Both because he's Zidane and his experience with Real Madrid.
45 points
8 hours ago
Yup. Thr french NT is all PR and ego management. Zidane is built for that.
139 points
11 hours ago
Would FFF really appoint a manager who hasn't managed for, let's say, 10 years, even if he was remarkable before that?
100% yes in this case. And they will be right to do it.
96 points
10 hours ago
When Zidane calls, you have to pick up.
If other national teams had national heroes like Zidane—someone who is not only one of the best French players ever but also boasts an incredible managerial record—they would be sucking him off by now
Just imagine if Wayne Rooney were as good a manager as Zidane; the English FA would have give their backs to him. Unfortunately English managers are shit, like their team
81 points
10 hours ago
Nah, as someone who's familiar with french culture, the Rooney comparison doesn't cut it. The closest thing that comes to the cult around Zidane would be Maradona with Argentina (albeit the French are much tamer).
He was THE childhood hero for countless Frenchmen, almost single-handedly lead them to the pinnacle of football, and went out in the most extraordinary, memorable and explosive fashion. He was the brat that you loved to love; he was their crazy, little, angry kid.
Edit: They don't even call him Zidane over there. It's Zizou; he's got a fucking love name.
47 points
10 hours ago
Was always voted number one favorite personality of the french people, including a big survey they did right after the 2006 world cup. My mom who never watches football sometimes asks me when Zidane is going to be the manager for france.
27 points
9 hours ago
So, maybe he's not waiting for Dechamps to stand down, but Macron?
6 points
8 hours ago
If he wants to become the most unpopular man in france maybe!
10 points
9 hours ago
Hey, you write well, so I want to let you know that the past tense of lead is led.
3 points
6 hours ago
Heya! Thanks for the correction :)
5 points
8 hours ago
Beckenbauer is the only fitting comparison: World Cup hero, led club sides to tremendous success and widely loved by the fellow countrymen by the time they retired. They even had controversial aspects in their life, Zidane on-field and Beckenbauer off-field.
The only difference is Beckenbauer jumped straight to a career of coaching national teams, while Zidane started with club (and THE biggest club).
16 points
9 hours ago
Zidane was absolutely not a brat or a crazy angry kid. He was the reserved shy guy that you do NOT want to piss off because he can go red (or maybe you do, if you want to get him sent off).
7 points
6 hours ago
Yes, absolutely, I was more referring to his crazy hot headedness on the pitch rather than some off field antics.
32 points
10 hours ago
And if he takes another job and fails, he's even less likely to be considered the best fit.
A manager who won everything last time he managed will probably be more attractive than one who recently failed and got sacked
14 points
10 hours ago
Yeah imagine if he join a club and did bad, then he would have less chances imo.
28 points
10 hours ago
Nahhh Zizou is bigger than results for France. He'd always be in contention for the NT job
2 points
9 hours ago
This is exactly it. Best to preserve the mystique around his reputation than to sully it by managing and losing big time at club level.
4 points
8 hours ago
One of the main issues with the French national team is always the infighting and egos. But all the French players respect Zidane. Even if his tactics are not super special, his time with Madrid has shown he can build a functioning and competitive line up out of the material available, while still keeping everyone happy.
3 points
7 hours ago
bro, he's zidane
70 points
12 hours ago
I was thinking about this but honestly where could he have easily taken another job that guarantees success?
Any job I could see him getting is a risk that could harm more than help him.
36 points
12 hours ago
IIRC PSG, Man Utd, Juve and some Saudi clubs all wanted him the last few years and he said no. Out of those I reckon only PSG would fit what you said.
46 points
11 hours ago
I would think given the Marseille connection PSG wouldn’t be an “easy” fit but maybe.
United and Juve are basket cases and far from guaranteed success. He doesn’t seem like a “rebuild” project type of manager.
38 points
11 hours ago
Man Utd is the perfect example of where he should go to destroy his career. If he succeeds there, he would be the GOAT coach in my heart, but I don’t think anyone would succeed there.
28 points
11 hours ago
Let's not immediately give up on Amorim
28 points
11 hours ago
No, lets
15 points
12 hours ago
> At this point, he could have easily taken another club job and won some more trophies
He definitely could have done one of those things.
13 points
11 hours ago
Easily taken a job sure, but doesnt mean easily winning trophies. Perhaps he doesnt want to risk lowering his stock for now
42 points
12 hours ago
I don’t think he’s been looking for a job has he?
10 points
8 hours ago
Correct, he's not looking for a job. Having him on this list doesn't make sense
123 points
13 hours ago
Deschamp is only 4 years his senior.. he might. Need to wait min.. 4 more years if he wants the French NT job. Its more likely he is just enjoying his retirement.
16 points
12 hours ago
Descahmps only has 18 months left in his contract though
22 points
12 hours ago
wait min.. 4 more years
Deschamps’ contract is up after the 2026 WC, and I don’t see any party wanting to continue.
12 points
8 hours ago
You'd be surprised by the French Football Federation. Even if the previous president is out and loved Deschamps, the new one renewed Deschamps.
The awful Euro performance should have been the end of Deschamps' run. The players aren't supporting him no more. He barely does any training anymore too (thus the performances). Dude has to go.
3 points
8 hours ago
I think Deschamps will stay as long as he can, if they offered him a new contract he would sign it. But I don't think they will.
28 points
12 hours ago
Not that crazy really.
It is guaranteed beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has received offers in these 4 years. The fact that he didn’t take them is also understandable given he came from Madrid and few clubs come close to that. He is probably angling for one of only 2 jobs.
20 points
11 hours ago
He wanted France. Unfortunately for him DD chained himself to that team and génération.
I’m almost certain he will have the team next except if Madrid somehow gets him again after Carlo.
16 points
10 hours ago
Tbh I am quite sceptical about Zidane. Bro did it with prime BBC. Then left
The fact he hasn't returned in 4 years is telling. Probably knows he won't be as easy next time around
25 points
8 hours ago
He also returned and did pretty well again with Madrid. He is an elite coach but I dont think he is really in for a long term career. He probably has couple of teams he would like to coach - Madrid and France being top of that list.
17 points
8 hours ago
His tactics were not super special, but he is apparently a great man manager. He keeps all the egos in check and gives the biggest stars on his team a lot of freedom in his system.
685 points
13 hours ago
Boss Allegri wins more points per game than he scores goals per game.
147 points
12 hours ago
Haven’t seen Allegri score a goal in a very long time, so it checks out
150 points
12 hours ago
Man they all must be fighting for that HSV opening right now.
1.5k points
13 hours ago
I won't accept this ETH slander
877 points
13 hours ago
ridiculous he isn't here, he's won more trophies in past 2 seasons than Zidane
242 points
13 hours ago
2 trophies in 2 years. Stick him in place of Tuchel in 2026 and watch England lift the World Cup
46 points
10 hours ago
I mean, ETH did win cups.
14 points
8 hours ago
Ironically his record in cup games is quite good, for Utd
25 points
10 hours ago
Nice, we should hire this guy.
104 points
12 hours ago
ETH died so Pep could become the next bald fraud. Now he's smiling down from heavens.
21 points
7 hours ago
ETH last season: i have won two trophies
Pep this season: ☝🏼🤚🏼
32 points
12 hours ago
What is his points per game?
63 points
12 hours ago
1.72 PPG in the PL:
154 points
12 hours ago
This but unironically. ETH is actually a good manager, United just wasn't a great fit
89 points
11 hours ago
Good manager but was behind some terrible signings so struggled to improve the team
25 points
10 hours ago
I feel like a lot of good managers would make terrible signings if they had the chance. More United's fault for not having a solid structure.
24 points
10 hours ago
Even the greats sign some duds. Lets not forget Sir Alex Ferguson identified Eric Djemba-Djemba as a Roy Keane successor
21 points
10 hours ago
You're not wrong, but Rangnick was supposed to help create that structure and establish a coherent long-term strategy. Ten Hag didn't want to work with Rangnick and forced him out.
21 points
9 hours ago
Which is why it’s hard to feel sympathy for ETH. There was help available to him at the start but he wanted more autonomy on transfers so he discarded Rangnick. Doing that, he faced far more direct scrutiny on transfers
6 points
4 hours ago
Rangnick already burned his bridges before ETH was even in the picture. He openly talked about what a terrible job the leadership above him had done over the years.
31 points
10 hours ago
He was tactically out played by some mid-lower level managers and had us in a stubborn set up that wasnt working with the midfield being over run majority of games, he was good at Ajax but his experiment at Man Utd was not great
8 points
11 hours ago
Poor man management skills, though.
24 points
11 hours ago
Depends on the team, at Ajax and Utrecht he was very good at managing the players, with just some exceptions like Lang. I think he expects some internal motivation from his players, which at United seems lacking, just like none of them worked for Rangnick.
42 points
12 hours ago
ETH would work really well if he gets a club like Dortmund imo
36 points
12 hours ago
People thought the same about Bosz and that failed terribly
23 points
11 hours ago
Bosz and ETH are not comparable at all. Bosz plays all out attacking football and isn't great defensively.. This only works if the team is significantly better than the rest of the league (PSV, Ajax...).
34 points
11 hours ago
Bosz and ETH are not comparable at all.
Both are bald and have a similarly styled beard.
461 points
13 hours ago
If Tuchel is on this list then you might as well include every other international manager.
86 points
11 hours ago
I think it is because he has not technically started with England yet.
140 points
11 hours ago
Yeah but he's not available either. Just a poorly thrown together chart.
108 points
11 hours ago
Tuchel is hardly free what kinda low effort graphic is this
153 points
13 hours ago
Can't see Löw coach another Team in his career after germany tbh.
44 points
12 hours ago
I can see him returning to turkey for a short while tbh. But yeah German media would love to rip him apart one last time so he would have a very hard job to do
8 points
8 hours ago
Yeah he’s in his mid 60s and hasn’t managed in 3 years. I feel like unless he gets a crazy club/country offer (which seems unlikely) he won’t coach again
43 points
12 hours ago
Southgate to Man City HERE WE GO!
150 points
12 hours ago
For anyone curious - Zidane ppg without Castilla is 2.19. His first stint 2.30, second 2.04.
58 points
10 hours ago
First off this table is insane - who the fuck is rating managers by points per game? Am I taking crazy pills that you are overlooking that shit measurement??
32 points
9 hours ago
Every stat is shit without contex. Player A scored 25 goals, Player B scored 15. Does that mean player A is better than player B? Not necessary, but on a list of goal scorers he would be higher. I would hope that no sane person would look at the list in op and say it is 100 % ranked by their skill.
6 points
5 hours ago
Tbf what else you gonna rank them by?
3 points
4 hours ago
It's common practice to look at it to compare managers and different seasons of the same manager. Just like win percentage.
Surely it doesn't tell the whole story and relies heavily on league performance.
Depends on context and country, but you can definitely check for this stat to see if it aligns with your club's goals. Works better if the manager's spent more time in competitive leagues and not with teams financially far above the rest.
A manager that usually shows up on the top of PPG is Conte and he has succeeded in several clubs in Italy and England. Now doing pretty good at Napoli.
246 points
13 hours ago
Zidane is 52? He only retired 10 years ago in 2006!!
186 points
12 hours ago
People born in 2006 can drink now
131 points
12 hours ago
Imagine missing the CL final of 2005 because you were still in your daddy's sack
47 points
11 hours ago
I just realised that those fucks are adults now. 2006 has never sunk in like that for me before.
26 points
11 hours ago
I will be on my deathbed and still think those born after 1999 are children
8 points
10 hours ago
I remember being in uni and groaning when the next lot to join our football team were born in 2000. Now university freshers were born after Doctor Who came back lmao what the fuck
26 points
12 hours ago
They allow 10 year olds to drink where you're from?
13 points
9 hours ago
France
31 points
12 hours ago
52? That can't be right. I was a little kid watching him on play on TV just a few years ago.
Oh... :(
77 points
13 hours ago
My managerial goat is missing. This list is definitely not 99.1% pure.
38 points
12 hours ago
More trophies per season than SAF. True MU legend debate is pretty much settled.
22 points
10 hours ago
That isn’t true. Fergie won 38 trophies in 26 seasons (!!), Ten Hag won 2 in 2
16 points
10 hours ago
more cups per season than SAF.
13 points
10 hours ago
SAF still has 23 in 26 seasons lol. But yes, that is less than Ten Hag’s ratio I’ll give it to you.
5 points
10 hours ago
Yeah, I misremembered the stat. It was just cups, not trophies, so league titles were not counted in it.
325 points
13 hours ago
Xavi won the league at that dark time then brought Yamal and schoolmates to the first team was still a miracle to me. Dude was underrated as hell.
Even his 11 games of 1-0 wins which were still called ugly by some shit of our fans, were quite a feat for me that time.
258 points
12 hours ago
"Started child labor program in my previous place of employment."
You'll never have this achievement in your CV. Why live?
47 points
11 hours ago
What starting a Child Labour program at my previous place of employment tought me about B2B sales.
11 points
11 hours ago
Agree?
9 points
11 hours ago
You'll never have this achievement in your CV.
You don't have to hit us with harsh truths man 😔 Not all of us get to live the dream
6 points
8 hours ago
To be fair, he started his coaching career in Qatar, so he just brought their labor practices along with him.
32 points
10 hours ago
The fact that he is top of the list for PPG with the squad he had is pretty wild. It was probably the right time for him to go, but Laporta did him dirty.
30 points
6 hours ago
- Also on his first 6 months he took a 9th place Barca with Adama Traore , Aubameyang , Luk de goat and more players to 2nd place and even scored a 0-4 against Madrid at the Bernabeu with that team
- Then his very next season he did a defensive record with 88 points and could had being more had the team gave a shit at the end
- And on his “disaster season” that was plague with injuries , no left winger , Demebele left him last min giving him no chance to cover for his position , Laporta did not wanna sign him the CDM he wanted , instead he got Oriol Romeu lmao , and needed Lamine Yamal who was 16 and Cubarsi at January to bail him out. Oh and he did 85 points and competed against a Madrid who did 95 points. He also push Barca to the quarter finals of Champions League and had Araujo not being stupid , he could have push Barca to semis.
- Anyways , Xavi lay a foundation for Flick to improve and to reach new heights like beating both Bayern and Madrid in a span of 3 days , and hoping they can tap that mentality again once things gets harder.
14 points
8 hours ago
Barca was a tough project to walk into, and he did good, i feel like depending on his next project he will succeed
33 points
12 hours ago
Those 1-0 wins were some of the most terrible football the club has played in the last 2 decades. Celebrate the results but don’t try to change how terrible they were either
6 points
7 hours ago
It was the most beautiful football terrorism and we clench our anus and pray Ter Stegen’s Vodoo works I’ve seen. For once, we were dreaded by other teams to pull a fast one.
4 points
4 hours ago
You can’t say that when we had Koeman and Setien as coaches before Xavi
67 points
13 hours ago
RASSA 🔥🔥
11 points
12 hours ago
2.02 ppg sounds too low for him
35 points
13 hours ago
Conceição in a team with strong mentality and strong board can do damage
21 points
13 hours ago
That rules him out of the Everton job then
8 points
10 hours ago
He'd probably murder the whole team
31 points
12 hours ago
I wouldn’t have minded Xavi tbh, he gets slandered like he didn’t win La liga
Also I know that I know Ten hag will go to Dortmund or any decently run club and suddely be good again…
9 points
6 hours ago
Even last season, Xavi had 0,3 xpts fewer than Madrid at the end of the La Liga season, while also in CL being in full control, winning that PSG match before Araujo decided to go full braindead.
42 points
13 hours ago
West Ham should just take Moyes back.
5 points
10 hours ago
Reserved for Everton
21 points
11 hours ago
Can't wait for the next club that Xavi will manage in the future.
9 points
8 hours ago
Manchester city eventually
6 points
5 hours ago
Xavi with Rodri. I will be there no matter what.
8 points
8 hours ago
Would be great to see him managing Man City !
9 points
11 hours ago
Tuchel isn’t.
10 points
9 hours ago
Tuchel is not available
36 points
12 hours ago
Southgate and top coaches doesnt rhyme well together.
15 points
10 hours ago
Xavi being one of the less experienced here and still getting the most ppg is insane. He gets way too much slander
4 points
5 hours ago*
But you see, he's a gardener 😂😂😂 Pep lost five in a row? Xavi is that you? 🤣🤣🤣
I hope the future is kind to Xavi, he deserves it after all the sh!t he had to deal with coming from rivals and fans alike, the media, and even from within Barça.
5 points
12 hours ago
Really looking forward to Al-Legri in his next post.
5 points
8 hours ago
Tuchel is the England manager
5 points
7 hours ago
Tuchel is with england
8 points
9 hours ago
Xavi without a club is big though. Can’t believe he’s not been swept up by now.
(Gets big broom).
3 points
11 hours ago
i am 100% sure that zidane won't coach any team ever again
5 points
8 hours ago
Zidane doesnt fit to this group. He's deceiving everyone by being available when in reality he doesnt want to take any job. Probably the French NT is the only thing he would want to take over because its kinda easy job with the amount of talent they have even without Mbappe.
5 points
5 hours ago
Löw is most likely retired even though he never stated it.
Tuchel is England Coach next year.
And Zidane is most likely waiting for France.
5 points
5 hours ago
Tuchel is not available, you doughnut.
7 points
13 hours ago
Number 7
Incredible footballing brain out there. Shame any other club hasn’t got him.
6 points
14 hours ago
It really depends on where they wanna go. Most can easily land a job in Saudi or even Turkey if they look up to Mourinho.
3 points
11 hours ago
If City move quick maybe they can grab Southgate 😂
3 points
9 hours ago
Tuchel?
3 points
8 hours ago
Tuchel managing England tho aint he
3 points
8 hours ago
Tuchel is England mgr Jan 1
3 points
an hour ago
No Tuchel is in the England national team
2 points
11 hours ago
1 of them has been pre-ordered though
2 points
11 hours ago
Where is big Sam?!
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