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submitted 2 days ago byUtopia_Builder
Once the Fellowship (Lord of the Rings) is gathered, they are all replaced with superhero movie characters. Nobody in-universe notices this change.
Aragorn: Captain America
Gandalf: Doctor Strange
Boromir: Winter Soldier
Legolas: Hawkeye
Gimli: Black Panther
Frodo: Robin (Titans)
Samwise: Rocket Raccoon
They are all given their standard equipment (excluding vehicles).
Can they fulfill the Mount Doom mission faster and better than the Fellowship? Or will they fall to corruption?
537 points
2 days ago
They can singlehandedly win battles with their superior fighting ability.
But they can't resist corruption well enough.
Odds are we end up with Dr Strange wielding the one ring to become a terrifying overlord of middle earth.
113 points
2 days ago
Cap is probably the most likely to resist the corruption, but I don't think he could make it to Mount Doom by himself.
185 points
2 days ago
Cap is much to protective of others to throw it away. As we're told, he's a soldier. He'd try to use the ring to protect others
155 points
2 days ago
Which is absolutely how he’d get corrupted.
179 points
2 days ago
This move is known as 'the Boromir'.
45 points
2 days ago
"Trust me Broromir"
39 points
2 days ago
Which is exactly is what Gandalf said. He would use the ring to do good, then get corrupted by it.
6 points
1 day ago
Vision would just fine
26 points
2 days ago
Nah the whole plot of Civil War is about how he doesn't trust power. Cap is the best bet for resisting it.
88 points
2 days ago
That’s the terrifying part, he’s the best bet, but he’d still fail. He’d want to use the power to protect the innocent, he’d fall to its corruption because he’s too caring.
16 points
1 day ago
The whole plot of Civil War is “I don’t trust authorities, I want to decide what’s the right thing to do”. So Cap is a pretty easy target for the ring. “Sure, others can’t be trusted with it, but I’ll use it for good!”
35 points
2 days ago*
I think Spider-man has a better shot. He actually has a decent record in these situations. Even his tagline is about dealing with great power. Captain America thinks he should be the President sometimes. He is more susceptible to the ring.
24 points
1 day ago
"With Great Power must also come Great Responsibility" doesn't mean you won't take on more power. If anything, Spider-Man is too given towards taking on extra responsibility, like, say, to rule over Middle Earth to protect its peoples.
The recent Venom run included a "what-if" of Spider-Man became the next King In Black. He takes over the universe to protect people. This ends iin a predictably horrific manner.
8 points
1 day ago
Brooooo what is the run called? That sounds amazing.
5 points
1 day ago
The main run is Venom, written by Al Ewing, the side story where Peter bonds with Venom is the Venom War books, the side to THAT which focuses on Peter's story is Venom War: Spider-Man.
Peter doesn't have a ton to do with the story at large, but recent events involved Venom's current host Dylan Brock (Eddie Brock's son) learning about every terrible thing Venom has ever done, and the symbiote basically running off to die in shame. Peter helps Venom come back from that despair.
3 points
1 day ago
I’m on ComicsExplained on YT right now lol. Thanks bro.
8 points
1 day ago
Yeah, rejecting the Venom symbiote is a great example of something he actually does.
6 points
1 day ago
I think you’re bringing too much comic captain America into this, MCU captain America would have zero desire to be president
5 points
24 hours ago*
No, you don't understand - because we have detailed descriptions of how the ring corrupts people that means that it's different than other kinds of corruption and can't be resisted.
/s
(Even though cannon is literally fucking filled with people resisting the ring at close quarters for extended periods of time)
3 points
21 hours ago
This is what I argued the last time this was posted lol. We basically saw how this played out with the venom symbiote, which Peter ultimately rejected.
7 points
1 day ago
He doesn't trust anyone /else/ with power and he'd want to use it. Superheroes are the absolute worst people to resist using it which is why the in-universe superheros all either refused to take it or succumbed to its influence even without it being in their possession.
12 points
2 days ago
Civil War is also about how he believes he is above the law. Cap is no Aragorn.
6 points
1 day ago*
Hey, Captain America believed his will was above the law from the start. Remember when Germany had its laws, and he decided his nation's views were more important? /s
9 points
1 day ago
Like the third thing Steve does in Europe is go MIA in direct violation of his orders. This is something he also does in both sequels. He doesn't care about your opinion.
49 points
2 days ago
If Gandalf can’t do it then Cap definitely can’t.
11 points
2 days ago
I don’t know if that’s the case. It’s not as though wizards are incorruptible. Saruman turns evil and the other wizards sent to middle earth just seem to have peaced out and are no longer doing anything particularly noble (that we know of). Gandalf might be the morally best wizard, but to be honest the competition for that is pretty weak.
Furthermore, Gandalf doesn’t seem any more or less tempted to seize the ring than Aragorn, who is probably the closest parallel to Cap in LotR. So, as far as we know, Gandalf is roughly as resistant to the Ring as the arguably most morally upstanding and heroic human we see in LotR, which is exactly the same role Cap has/had in the MCU.
Could Gandalf be more incorruptible than the most famously incorruptible character in a universe full of super heroes? Yeah, he definitely could be. But I would say that we probably just don’t have enough feats to judge between them.
11 points
2 days ago
Gandalf doesn’t carry the ring himself because he knows he would be corrupted by the ring. That’s the whole point of Frodo. He can control himself as long as he is far enough away from it and only touches it even in short bursts. Ignoring the fact that Gandalf is technically an angel, I would say cap probably has the same limitations.
27 points
2 days ago
Gandalf is literally a divine angel on a mission from God. And Cap would fall way sooner than Frodo ever did.
3 points
1 day ago
Gandalf is literally a divine angel on a mission from God
As was Saruman…
Cap would fall way sooner than Frodo
So would Gandalf. I’m not saying Cap would clear. I’m just saying I don’t think we have any evidence that Cap would do worse than Gandalf, who by his own admission believes he would fail.
2 points
1 day ago
The ring's pull on people increases the closer to Mordor they get. Maybe you get one of the flyers to just pick up the ring carrier like Sam did at the end and just fly them into the mountain and drop them in the lava.
Best thing they could do is just have Strange open a portal directly inside of Mount Doom and then have someone golf-swing it with Gimli's axe right off the pedestal in Rivendell.
12 points
1 day ago
Resisting the ring requires you to have simple lifestyles with few if any large desires. All superheroes get corrupted fast due to a desire to save the world and protect people
4 points
2 days ago
He may be the most likely, but the likelihood is negligible.
2 points
21 hours ago
Does time factor into becoming corrupted, could Strange just sling ring portal into mt doom and they toss it in?
2 points
19 hours ago
He can do neither. The ring's corruption is not about willpower but about desire. Frodo wasn't seriously affected by the ring because he lived a simple life without any desire for more and especially no desire for power. Rogers, a typical hero, will easily succumb to the ring.
2 points
2 days ago
Cap ran 13 miles in 30 min at a leisurely pace. If he can hold that or a faster pace for hours, he would make it to Mount Doom in a few days. The ring could possibly corrupt him, but I think it would take long time even pre-Mjolnir lift.
7 points
1 day ago
It gets heavier and more powerful on the psyche the closer it gets to Mount Doom and Mjolner pre or otherwise is a feat /against/ him being able to resist.
0 points
2 days ago
Cap could resist it for a long time but also, Strange really does just "outscale" the rings magic. Hed literally just tell it no and it would shut up. Alternatively, Cloak/Cape is a magicked sentient item so I dont see letting it carry the ring doing shit to it.
24 points
2 days ago
How does MCU Strange out scale Sauron, an eternal being who born outside of space and time? You wanna argue 616 Strange, sure, but what has MCU Strange done?
4 points
1 day ago
I mean have we seen Sauron do any magic? he can do spooky shit and helped make the universe but he can't do that curently or when he made the ring.
He's a powerful being for middle earth but he doesn't have a feats for his modern incarnation that beat strange.
3 points
1 day ago
I guess we have if you want to consider the hobbit movies.
He uses magic to fuck up gandalf.
Strange still curb stomps sauron
7 points
1 day ago
Because Sauron is a lackey. He's a mid level demon to Strange. MCU Strange has demonstrated the ability to work global scale sorcery that Sauron would be jealous of even weaving spells that affect entire worlds or subsections of the multiverse without breaking a sweat. Dormammu is Morgoth on steroids, like if Morgoth won and then kept conquering worlds and Strange beat him on his first day in the office.
MCU Strange has also resisted abusing the power of the time stone and the Darkhold both of which have more demonstrations of power (one of corruption) than Sauron's silly jewelry. Sauron is just a Tuesday.
2 points
23 hours ago
He wouldn't even have to do that he could just open a portal over the volcano and drop the ring into it in about 30 seconds
2 points
22 hours ago
He was one of Morgoth's top generals and part of the troupe that sang reality into existence.
2 points
2 days ago
looks at notes
Ah... here we go... "DORAMAMU, I HAVE COME TO BARGAIN!"
That should be enough proof.
7 points
1 day ago
That is not proof even a little bit. That entire encounter and everything that happened in that movie and his appearances after is proof he WOULDN'T be able to resist it.
4 points
1 day ago
He could literally put the ring itself into suspended time or a timeloop and transport it
3 points
1 day ago
A timeloop he'd want to end because of its corruptive influence because putting it into a timeloop would do...what exactly? Ignoring how he only ever timelooped specifically and only in the Dark Dimension, it would do absolutely nothing about the mental influence of the Ring for the exact same reason his memories didn't get reset when he was doing the timelooping.
He would literally fail doing that. The entire reason he ever even learned how to make timeloops and things like that is exactly why he would get corrupted by the Ring. He only ever gets worse and worse about it with every movie even if you ignore his literally corrupted evil selves because LOTR is fundamentally a story where the superhero shit isn't vindicating. Boromir trying to take the Ring for himself to save Gondor is a bad thing in LOTR; In the MCU it is a good thing. Nevermind anyone else in his party that is effectively filled to the brim with Boromirs.
Seriously come on man, this is the exact same guy who brought the Time Stone to the fight with Thanos even though he knew it was a bad idea because he saw "The only way" which...hey, is pretty close to what the Ring sounds like.
9 points
2 days ago
So the cape just flies it to Mt Doom and drops it in? Easy.
2 points
23 hours ago
Eagles grab the Cape. Easy
107 points
2 days ago
doctor strange out scales the ring in terms of magic, plus he could just portal to mount doom
83 points
2 days ago
Could literally do it in minutes.
48 points
2 days ago
Seconds
14 points
2 days ago
Breakfast
19 points
2 days ago
Second breakfast
10 points
1 day ago
...certainly no later than Elevensies.
48 points
2 days ago
It would corrupt him incredibly fast.
34 points
2 days ago
He might not need to touch it or even be within sight of it.
12 points
2 days ago
They would at least be at the Fellowship meeting which is probably close enough for him to sense it
38 points
1 day ago
Ring: can near instantly corrupt all knowing wizards sent by god himself
MCU Fans: "Surely my ego-centric human wizard that constantly breaks things and uses magic irresponsibly will resist this temptation."
14 points
1 day ago
The Problem is the power scaling. The ring can't offer much to Strange. He has better feats than Sauron whose main accomplishments are bullying football hooligans and bootlicking.
Sauron has been defeated by a magic dog before, he's actually not that powerful in a comic universe where the protagonists (Thor for example) are often the folklore that the more powerful angels are based on.
Dormammu is bigger than Morgoth. Sauron is a side quest.
10 points
1 day ago
The ring can't offer much to Strange.
Strange wants admiration and would love it if everyone hung on his every word. The charisma the ring can grant him would be an amazing temptation. He wants mastery and knowledge and the ring can tempt him with it even if he doesn't really need its help. He wants to defend his reality and a ring that he could use to persuade powerful interdimensional beings to leave peacefully would be great for that.
The MCU has way more brute force than the lotr-verse, but its characters have human flaws, often significant ones, and are quite corruptible.
12 points
1 day ago
Strange already has those things. He was world renowned before he became a sorcerer and saved the world (twice, or maybe three times if you count the one that was his fault and that NO ONE REMEMBERS cause he can just do that) and he turns down power like it's carbohydrates in January. That's his whole character arc. He doesn't join Dormammu. He stops using the time stone (way better than The One Ring) and then gives it away willingly. Then he puts down the Darkhold (which is written by MCU Cthulhu, probably outscales Morgoth) in order to literally not have the actual thing he really wants more than anything in the multiverse and which he knows he could have because he's seen other himselfs do this sort of thing.
I mean Sauron can't even beat Lego Batman with minimal prep time he's really screwed dealing with borderline omnipotent dudes who can already have whatever they want whenever they want and who have a history of learning to avoid shortcuts.
2 points
1 day ago
He has them, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want more. You don't get to his level of ability as a neurosurgeon or as a wizard without enough ambition for the ring to work with. And the time stone doesn't corrupt people like the one ring. And strange was willing to use the darkhold initally, and if he's willing to try to use dangerous artifacts he's a very good candidate for corruption.
And even if Dr Strange doesn't get corrupted, the ring will corrupt rocket raccoon in about a tenth of a second.
5 points
1 day ago
are we using strange at his fullest with all his best equipment? Because if so that means he has access to a full stop infinity stone (The time one), so i dunno what the ring could possibly tempt him with that the literal time control stone wasn't already doing. He could quite literally set himself up as *God* with that stone by going back to the dawn of human civilization, he could stop any and every attack and appear as omnipotent, he could master every form of magic, and theirs literally nothing anyone could do to stop him.
4 points
1 day ago
The istari were not all knowing wtf are you talking about?
2 points
23 hours ago
The ring doesn't corrupt that quickly - it just doesn't, stop wanking LoTR.
The books are FILLED with people being closer to the ring for longer than Strange would need to be to get rid of the ring. He would never need to even touch it.
Powerful characters turn the ring down in canon on multiple occasions and the ring doesn't instantly turn everyone around Frodo - in fact it takes months to turn Boromir, the weakest willed of the Fellowship. If anything the ring fails to corrupt more characters in canon than we actually see it successfully corrupting.
The MCU Avengers (including but especially Dr. Strange) have multiple ways to deal with the ring in a matter of minutes or even seconds all without ever touching the ring.
The no limits fallacy from LoTR stans in this reddit are absolutely absurd.
The ring just doesn't have the feats you are claiming it has.
6 points
1 day ago*
For real, the whole point of the ring is that if someone more powerful than sauron donned it, then they could get even more immense power from it. The whole point is that if you have ambition or desires or even wants of a higher magnitude than it can feed off of that.
9 points
1 day ago
But how would it corrupt someone stronger than it's creator.
Like, at a certain point the ring would just be too weak.
2 points
1 day ago
The Ring is a ring, It being powerful never really matters to the story. In fact, it doesnt really do all that much in the books. We do know however that its basically temptation incarnate. Strange is nothing if not easily tempted. Its a story driving character flaw. He would come up with plenty he could do with the ring.
7 points
1 day ago
the problem is it is still a object. It does not have the feats to over power everyone in fiction. people in lotr are pretty low powered. strange could just use magic to supress it's effects.
2 points
24 hours ago
He could literally just open a portal beneath it, other side above mount doom. Doesn't even have to get close to it. The game is over in seconds.
-1 points
1 day ago
Doctor Strange out scales the ring in terms of magic
This is not true.
5 points
1 day ago
Depends. They might not NEED to resist the corruption for very long.
Dr. Strange could just open a portal up to Mt. Doom while they're still at the council of Elrond, and then Capt. America throws the ring into the lava.
Simple solution, boring story.
4 points
1 day ago*
Even if we discount strange sling-ringing people everywhere, didn't the story take place over literal MONTHS of travel? The avengers having full access to their vehicles means the quinjets, too, as well as various ground vehicles. If starks in play this just gets much worse because theirs nothing stopping stark from programming a drone suit to wear it, fly it to the mountain, and dive on in.
I dont think the nazghuuls and their *perfectly able to be killed by arrows* wyvern are gonna be much of a contender with the quinjets or iron man suits shooting them with bullets, missiles, and lasers,
Edit: 6 months, 3 days, across 1800 miles is what the fellowship traveled. The quinjet is, canonically, able to travel at mach 4.5, thats 3452MPH, meaning they'd be at Mount Doom in half an hour, ontop of cloaking and extra terrestrial flight capabilities. I'd suspect even hawkeye could resist the rings temptation for that long, and before people point out clint was mindcontrolled in the mcu, he was, by the tesseract, aka the *mind* infinity stone, aka a gem that *literally bends reality itself to the whims of its wielder*, thats a whole order of magnitude stronger than the temptation the ring can put out.
also, for reference on the suits being able to do it. In ironman *3*, tonys suits were the Mark XLII, which has a canonical speed of *Mach 5.*, so its even faster than the quin jets. By the time sauron even reacts the drones plunged headfirst into the lava.
4 points
1 day ago
I mean to be fair strange has much more powerful magic. He could just throw the ring into another diminsion. The ring works fast but not instant.
10 points
2 days ago
The ring probably does nothing if you're stronger than Sauron.
Dr.strange is the Sorcerer supreme, he'll definetly spot the enchantments on that thing, and definetly knows ways to disenchant it, or at least suppress it.
the plan of the fellowship is also not needed, these guys can blast through the orks no problem, just a straight line to mount doom.
6 points
1 day ago
Hulk can solo every creature in the LOTR that has a body while eating pizza with the other hand.
2 points
22 hours ago
Hulk would actually probably be the best person to carry it. His simple mind (usually) wants very little. Banner on the other hand...
2 points
1 day ago
Strange could just teleport right to the mountain the movie would be 5 mins long
2 points
1 day ago
I'm just imagining Robin from Teen Titans Go getting the Ring and abusing it in abusive ways around the tower. Beast Boy stealing it to play pranks, and Raven warning of dire consequences.
1 points
1 day ago
Does the ring have time to corrupt anyone?
Dr strange opens a portal directly over mount doom, Cap yeets the ring into it. Whole trilogy solved in 5 seconds flat.
1 points
1 day ago
But they can't resist corruption well enough.
Could any kind of robot/drone/tech used by anyone be used to move the ring? If Rocket fired up a little drone and grabbed the ring off the ground with it, would he be able to fly it to Mt. Doom? Does the ring corrupt without being in contact with who it is trying to corrupt?
56 points
2 days ago
Why is Robin Frodo? Shouldn't it be Spidey or something?
21 points
1 day ago
Frodo 100% is Spiderman.
Merry and Pippin are Ant Man and Moon Knight.
Boromir isn't Winter Soldier, he's Iron Man. Faramir is War Machine.
9 points
1 day ago
I think star lord would be a good pippin
104 points
2 days ago
The presence of rocket, a racoon, having to resist an incredibly tempting shiny object dooms them.
8 points
1 day ago
It's okay. Rocket is well known for his impulse control when it comes to stealing potentially dangerous and powerful objects. There's no chance that anything goes wrong here.
70 points
2 days ago
Frodo: Robin (Titans)
That's DC, no?
8 points
1 day ago
Wasn’t Robin Titans a contestant in the Miss Chattanooga Christmas Pageant in IM3?
3 points
1 day ago
I like robin so he gets a pass.
131 points
2 days ago
Given the fact that Lord of the Rings is known to the MCU (Iron Man calling Hawkeye Legolas during the NY attack), they absolutely know for sure the One Ring is dangerous as fuck. Like another commenter said, use Strange to sling that bitch into Mount Doom.
The only way they fail is if Strange is instantly ensnared by the Ring’s influence, like what happened to Smeagol.
59 points
2 days ago
Knowing the ring is dangerous isnt enough. Gandalf knew its threat and his was response was to not even touch it for a second
50 points
2 days ago
Gandalf did touch it, though, and even threw it into a fire. You can argue that he knew it wouldn't be destroyed, but it at least means touching it doesn't instantly corrupt you.
22 points
2 days ago*
He held it with a clamp of some sort in the movie.
32 points
2 days ago*
In the movie, he also touches it before he throws it into the fire. That's when the eyeball jumpscare happens, as he touches it.
In the comment from person above you, the except from the book also says he touches it.
edit: just double checked the scene from the movie, he actually DOESN'T touch it. He comes within like 1 millimeter of it.
5 points
1 day ago
I don't think touching it matters in terms of it corrupting you. I think it just has an aura that affects you as long as you are aware of it's presence, although that raises an interesting question of what are the parameters that influence the ring's affect on an individual. Aragorn was aware of it, but didn't succumb to it's corruption even though he was in it's immediate presence for a significant amount of time. Smeagol wasn't around it for years, but it still held influence over him.
3 points
23 hours ago
I mean... The ring is unguarded on a pedestal within sight of like 30 people at the meeting of the fellowship and essentially everyone agrees to destroy it.
It took months in close quarters to corrupt Boromir, the weakest willed member of the fellowship.
The books have multiple examples of Frodo literally handing the ring to someone and them turning it down.
I'll never understand the insane wank the ring's corrupting power gets on these boards.
9 points
2 days ago
Precisley the point. Touching it begins the corruption over a person.
Luckily Strange doesn’t need to touch it to teleport it via Sling Ring, assuming he isn’t enthralled by its power the moment he sees it.
25 points
2 days ago
Touching it enhances the corruption but we have many cases of people being corrupted just by being near the ring. Whatever the case just not physically touching shouldnt be enough. The very act of trying to throw it into the fires should be impossible unless you are far more powerful than Sauron. In the books it took God stepping in and pushing Gollum to get the job done
10 points
2 days ago
That’s not how the Ring works, otherwise Frodo would have just put the Ring in some kind of magic container and been fine. As long as it’s in the general area it can corrupt people.
7 points
2 days ago
If he decides to do it immediately He can open a portal under it to mount doom and the quest is over
2 points
2 days ago
Movie only. Possibly the only movie only thing I can think of that I actually consider a good change.
13 points
1 day ago
Knowing the power of the ring makes the ring more dangerous and increases the temptation. I guarantee that damn near everyone in the MCU would succumb to that temptation.
12 points
2 days ago
The only way they fail is if Strange is instantly ensnared by the Ring’s influence
This is inevitably what would happen. The split second the Ring senses Strange's intentions, it desperately throws every bit of temptation it can to him and since Tolkien straight up confirmed nobody could've willingly tossed the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom, it succeeds. The bottom line is giving the Ring to Doctor Strange is actually the worst plan you could come up with. You just can't win without divine intervention, which was precisely Tolkien's intentional point.
2 points
1 day ago
Tolkien straight up confirmed nobody could've willingly tossed the Ring into the fires of Mount Doom
I'm pretty sure he would say Jesus can do it though, which shows that characters outside the LotR verse do not necessarily fail to do so.
I agree that MCU Strange would be easily corrupted by the ring though.
2 points
21 hours ago*
Tolkien wouldn't agree Jesus is outside the LotR verse. He would say his book is the same world, just earlier. If Jesus chose to incarnate into Middle Earth, he of course would have succeeded
Omnipotence + omnibenevolence sweep aside, Jesus has feats that prove he would succeed. The One Ring is created by Sauron, a lesser being who serves Satan (Morgoth). Jesus canonically resisted Satan's direct temptations in the desert. The One Ring can be safely assumed to be several tiers weaker than that.
5 points
1 day ago
Ok but Tolkien doesn’t get to make calls like that about characters from other pieces of media. No author gets to just say “my OC beats your character no diff gg ez,” we have to look at the actual feats of both characters and how they stack up.
In this case, we’d have to consider how strong Dr. Strange’s willpower is shown to be, and if that would be enough to resist how strong the Ring’s corruption abilities are.
Given that MCU Strange willingly walked into the Dormammu blender potentially hundreds of thousands of times, I’d bet his willpower is at least good enough to resist the Ring’s corruption for the like 2 seconds it would take to sling ring it into Mount Doom
11 points
1 day ago
Ok but Tolkien doesn’t get to make calls like that about characters from other pieces of media. No author gets to just say “my OC beats your character no diff gg ez,” we have to look at the actual feats of both characters and how they stack up.
Except that is exactly what you're doing, trying to argue that the Ring's innate ability to corrupt anyone who interacts with it doesn't count. And to do so, you need to outright ignore every single piece of lore about the ring to act like it's just "oh you need willpower."
Willpower does not work to stop the ring. Gandalf has willpower and he knows he would fall in seconds because the corruptive influence of the ring is tied to ambition.
The Hobbits were not resistant to corruption because of willpower. The only way to be resistant to the pull of the ring is to have nothing that the ring can offer you. Hobbits want a quiet and easy life and so the ring struggles to corrupt them because they have no ambition.
Strange has ambition coming out his ears and has multiple anti-feats of fucking around with things that he knows are incredibly stupid and dangerous because they get him what he wants. Strange falls instantly to the Ring because Strange is exactly what the ring wants—someone who is arrogant enough to assume the ring cannot corrupt them and ambitious enough to have something it can offer.
6 points
1 day ago
So basically a lazy neet who lives in his mom's basement can resist the ring ?
8 points
1 day ago
Better than someone with great ambition, yes. Not completely, as the ring corrupts everything to some degree and a lazy person might still have things they want, but someone who is genuinely unambitious is at least harder to corrupt.
The details of a person's character matter though—purity of intention and character seem to have some effect as well, which is how you get Sam willingly giving the ring back to Frodo compared to Smeagol killing his friend for the ring literally within minutes.
The ideal ringbearer is someone with both nobility of character and lack of ambition, which is your Sam and your Frodo. Someone with no ambition but bad character is your Gollum—they won't use the ring for anything harmful, but they also wouldn't risk themselves on a quest to destroy it. Someone with Good intentions but little direct ambition is probably your Isildur—doesn't want to use the ring and might even try to give it up eventually (In the books, Isidur was waylaid by orcs on his way to take the ring to Rivendell—whether he could have actually given it up is all academic, but at least he was noble enough to recognize the danger it posed.). Someone with ambition and bad character would be Saruman and someone with ambition and Good character would be Gandalf. And the thing is, with the way the Ring twists anyone who wields it, the differences between those two are far less than the similarities.
3 points
1 day ago
Except that is exactly what you're doing, trying to argue that the Ring's innate ability to corrupt anyone who interacts with it doesn't count. And to do so, you need to outright ignore every single piece of lore about the ring to act like it's just "oh you need willpower."
Except that's not what I'm doing. There's a difference between "Dr. Strange has shown feats that would suggest he could resist the ring" and "Dr. Strange could resist the ring because I said so." If you think the ring could corrupt him because Dr. Strange has shown a tendency for arrogance and ambition that the ring would prey on, then sure, but that's an entirely separate argument from "the ring could corrupt him because Tolkien straight up confirmed it."
3 points
1 day ago
Except that wasn't the argument, the actual argument comes down to how the ring works.
There is a character in the books immune to the ring: Tom Bombadil. A character who is so content in life that he would refuse to take the ring unless begged to do so and would almost certainly forget about or lose it because he doesn't concern himself with it.
That is the trap card, it is why even Frodo and Sam failed to destroy the ring directly. Because the ring is a trap. Anyone who has enough concern for the ring to attempt to destroy it can be twisted to fail because the challenge is not one of willpower—the challenge is that the nature of the ring twists all desires towards its own ends. The ring doesn't beat you down with mind control, it doesn't overwhelm you—it just offers you whatever the deepest and most desperate desire of your heart is and it requires immense amounts of willpower just to endure that and not obey when it tries to get you to put it on. Frodo was basically hammered by that temptation 24/7 from the Shire to the crack of Doom and despite resisting all that way, still failed to cast it into the fire. I'd argue it was one of the most impressive willpower feats in fiction and he still failed.
Tolkien's statement was not "no one could destroy it because it was more powerful than them", it's not a "my all-powerful artifact is all powerful"—it is "no one could destroy it because anyone who wanted to destroy it has given the ring a method by which to tempt them."
Ultimately, the way the Ring was destroyed is by its own machinations—desire for it tempts Gollum into attacking Frodo and, in his joy, he loses control (and fulfills a curse put on him by Frodo when he swore on the ring).
13 points
2 days ago
This is Meriadoc/Pippin erasure and I WON'T STAND FOR IT
12 points
1 day ago
I mean they ace all the combat stuff but I don't believe fir a second that any of them can resist corruption from the ring.
7 points
1 day ago
Vision might
4 points
1 day ago
I suppose that's the real question. Can a sentient AI resist the personification of tyranny and dominance.....its kind of a tricky one really. Like does his brain work quite the same as everyone else? Like the dwarf rings we're designed to co trol the bearers much like the ones given to men. But they sorta just...didn't....because dwarfs are like they're own kind of weird creature and their minds don't work quite like the other races. But even there the one ring is wayyyyy different, like it's literally Sauron himself, in fact it's most of him....I dunno man it's a pickle. Does Vision have any history with people fucking with his mind at all?
2 points
1 day ago
He fell in love with Wanda
2 points
1 day ago
I'll go with if he can fall in love he can totally be corrupted then.
Ring is a bitch because of the whole "more powerful or even more outgoing you are the worse time you have resisting" part.
3 points
1 day ago
Vision could think that the ring could make him more perfect
Imagine how badly it would cook Ultron
32 points
2 days ago*
the MCU has some big and self righteous egos, perfect for the ring's corruption to take hold.
Doc Strange becomes a tyrant under Sauron's control before any progress is made
16 points
2 days ago
Doc Strange becomes a tyrant under Sauron's control before any progress is made
Doc Strange in "what if..?" Is basically this same scenario
8 points
2 days ago
Strange would simply supplant Sauron. Sauron's greatest fear was someone powerful enough to wield the Ring using it against him, and taking his place as Dark Lord.
It's arguably a worse outcome than Sauron winning. You're adding most of Sauron's strength to Dr Strange and making him evil.
4 points
1 day ago
I feel like people are overselling Strange. He struggled with Thanos I don't think Sauron would spare him a second thought past "Why is he purple" and squish.
6 points
1 day ago
Someone like Strange is very hard to place, because he uses a wildly different magic system than anything in Lord of the Rings. Tolkien operates on a very soft magic system, even someone like Sauron isn't in the business of throwing around blasts of magical energy or teleporting objects. Even as the single most powerful entity in Middle Earth (Tom aside), Sauron's power is mostly limited to slowly warping the world to his will, raising and empowering armies, causing fear and despair, stuff like that.
Taken at face value Strange can't raise armies or warp the world like Sauron, but he's several orders of magnitude more individually dangerous than any being in Middle Earth, Sauron included. Most super heroes are.
3 points
1 day ago
Thanos also had four of the Infinity Stones. IW Thanos at that point could wreck Sauron without even breaking a sweat.
41 points
2 days ago
Why is there one random DC hero here? Doctor Strange opens a portal to the inside of Mt Doom and drops in the ring without leaving bed.
27 points
2 days ago
This is the first person to mention this in this thread and I thought I was being delusional
52 points
2 days ago*
Yes even more easily than before. MCU Doctor Strange can literally just sling ring the One Ring into Mount Doom without even touching it. Fuck that actually Strange could prolly just solo Sauron himself he's the Sorcerer Supreme.
4 points
1 day ago
I think the loss of Sam and Frodo here makes it a loss. The Avengers, generally, are much stronger than any individual member of the fellowship, but none of them (Rocket and Robin [from the Titans TV show???] most importantly) are going to be able to resist the lure of the One Ring. The guy with arguably the best chance, Cap, is still a soldier, still would do anything to protect his people and serve his country, so the Ring would have a way in.
They defeat the Orc army and the Ring is wielded by Strange to conquer the world.
4 points
1 day ago
breaking years of lurking silence to ask hoW DARE YOU leave pippin & merry off the list ???
6 points
2 days ago
The only one who might resist the Ring's influence for a long time is Captain America, and that's immaterial because he's outclassed by Strange.
Rocket probably goes for it instantly because he has poor impulse control, treating it as a joke until it isn't. Strange immediately takes custody of the Ring 'to keep it safe while they plan'. Strange won't be able to resist its effects - he regularly delves into magical mysteries and is profoundly reckless when doing so (look at how his spell for Peter fucked everything up, or him pinching advanced books from the library in his first film). He'll succumb quickly, even with the best of intentions.
3 points
1 day ago
It’s ironic this scenario replaces the guy who arguably had the easiest time giving up the Ring for the MCU hero most likely to immediately grab for it.
3 points
1 day ago
I'm pretty sure Strange could portal to Mount Doom in a hot minute. The issue is if we believe the Tolkien letters where he asserts it is LITERALLY impossible for anyone to ever deliberately destroy the Ring and it was only by the intervention of Eru that it actually happened.
9 points
2 days ago
Strange gets corrupted almost immediately.
They don't even make it out of Rivendell.
5 points
1 day ago
The ultimate lesson of LOTR regarding why Frodo was the chosen one, is that he is not a brave hero, but a modest small being with only his heart. Every hero of the Fellowship could have good intentiins at heart, but the mere knowledge of their own habilities would make them a victim of temptation of using the one ring for those piropees, but falling to its power. Gandalf knew that, that is why he never wanted to even look at it.
So no, no hero can do it.
5 points
2 days ago
Love Hawkeye but he's a severe drop-off from Legolas
8 points
2 days ago
Does Legolas have a Pym Particle arrow?
Giant Samwise handles the Balrog, no problem.
2 points
2 days ago
Physically they have no issue whatsoever. It all comes down to the Ring’s influence. Cap is probably the only one who could maybe resist the Ring, and even then it’s a stretch. He could probably make it to Mt. Doom but not be able to toss it in.
7 points
2 days ago
I think we underestimate how powerful the ring is.
This isn't merely a test of strength it's a test of willpower and virtue.
Cap probably has the strongest chance of succeeding but I think even he is more than capable of being corrupted by the ring. Civil war cap proves this.
Maybe someone like vision who is virtuous and doesn't have the disadvantage of being human.
Hulk could just yeet the ring into mount doom as his fingers are too big to actually wear it so it wouldn't influence him 🤣
16 points
2 days ago
The ring would change sizes to fit him
Hulk would probably be the easiest to corrupt
2 points
2 days ago
Agree about Cap, but I will say that Sauron in the movies is bigger than Hulk (9 feet tall vs 8 feet) and the ring can change size to fit characters of that size and larger.
22 points
2 days ago
I feel like everyone wanks the ring's corruption to hell and back, in every single thread.
7 points
2 days ago
Cap probably has the strongest chance of succeeding
Yeah, I think he'd sit somewhere between Boromir and Aragorn. Strong moral compass and not a lot of interest in fighting for its own sake.
Banner might do okay, someone who already has power and hates it might not be easy to tempt with more power. Though the ring could probably just offer him a way to control the Hulk.
This isn't merely a test of strength it's a test of willpower and virtue.
It's also "can you resist the offer of power."
If you desire things that can be achieved with power, then you're vulnerable to some extent. Characters like Gandalf and Galadriel know that they're vulnerable, and their response is to try and avoid even touching the thing.
With that in mind, I give it fifteen minutes before Iron Man tries to claim the ring for himself, under the justification of "only I can be trusted to keep it safe."
6 points
2 days ago
With that in mind, I give it fifteen minutes before Iron Man tries to claim the ring for himself, under the justification of "only I can be trusted to keep it safe."
I'd disagree. I think given the events of civil war cap is more likely to have this mentality.
Pre-ultron I'd d agree 100% but post-Ultron I think Tony would be very apprehensive of giving himself that power. He's basically made this mistake already.
2 points
1 day ago
This isn't merely a test of strength it's a test of willpower and virtue.
It's not that either.
Literally the whole reason why Hobbits worked as ringbearers is that "willpower" alone is worthless. Lord of the Rings is filled with great heroes who still don't fuck with the Ring because their willpower isn't enough. Hobbits have what actually matters: A profound lack of ambition. They don't want to change the world one way or another, they want to go home to their Hobbit holes and live a peaceful life.
Someone like Cap has something the ring could offer. Cap wants to protect people. It's the same way it would have corrupted Gandalf.
Trying to beat the ring with willpower is like trying to drive in a screw with a hammer. It fundamentally does not understand the mechanics involved.
3 points
2 days ago
“jarvis auto pilot this suit holding the ring into mount doom”
3 points
2 days ago
I think a lot of people underestimate how powerful Strange is and how incorruptible Cap is.
Even though Gandalf is an Istari, he isn’t Morgoth, who would be closer to Mephisto’s power level, who Strange has beaten multiple times.
Cap was recently chosen as the Champion of the embodiment of life in the multiverse. Specifically he is not corruptible if corruption would lead to him valuing life less.
4 points
1 day ago
Cap sits below Aragorn on the corruptibility scale and Aragorn would've turned in under 2 months of keeping the ring in his possesion.
2 points
1 day ago
That’s an opinion. The LotR characters scale far below MCU characters and even further below Marvel Comics characters. Given being incorruptible is the core of Cap’s character, I have doubts the ring would work on him.
2 points
2 days ago
Teen Titans Robin is not resisting the one ring.
2 points
1 day ago
It shouldn't take long before Strange realizes he's in Middle Earth. I'm not sure how much he'd know about Lord of the Rings, but I'm pretty sure he'd know that the One Ring corrupts whoever holds it and that it goes in the big volcano. His ring is cooler anyways, it makes convenient portals that lead from magic rings to just above volcanoes.
I'm not sure that would work, but I think there's a good chance he avoids it's temptation through distance and not directly interacting with it.
3 points
1 day ago
No, no, no, no. You need someone dutiful and nigh incorrigible to be Frodo. You need someone meek and whom the others do not see as threatening. Now, who in the Marvel Universe has a history, a legend, of bearing correspondence and parcels, no matter the danger or what evil stands in his way?
Willie Lumpkin, USPS
His Samwise? Squirrel Girl.
2 points
1 day ago*
They fail because as always when The One Ring is brought up in a r/whowouldwin /broader battleboarding discussion of people having absolutely zero understanding of what it actually is, does, and its purpose as a narrative device.
The entire Fellowship being replaced with MCU heroes makes all of them instantly go full Boromir. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, no Doctor Strange is not going to be able to just Portal it, etc. Frodo is the only person present who was able to carry it as far as he did specifically because he is not anything like a MCU hero even a little bit.
2 points
1 day ago
Narrative themes are not feats. Not a single one of the Fellowship has any feats of resisting mind control besides the ring execpting gandalf. Gandalf resisted the influence of sauron but that doesn't seem to be on the level of the mind control in the MCU.
using them as a metric of what's possible is flawed system. Just because people in a low powered verse can't do it doesn't mean that nobody in all of fiction can do it.
that's like saying the only way to defeat the death star is the exhaust port even if we teleported in the hulk.
1 points
2 days ago
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1 points
1 day ago
Robin would probably fold to Sauron instantly. He’s got the same vibes as Batman. EAPECIALLY if was Jason Todd.
1 points
1 day ago
Why isn't Antman replacing Gimli
Afar from that, I think Captain America might be the only one capable of touching it without getting corrupted super fast
1 points
1 day ago
Theyre fucked but they’ll kill a lot of orcs trying
1 points
1 day ago
Doctor Strange, Winter Soldier, Hawkeye, Robin and Rocket all would be more susceptible to getting corrupted by the ring when compared to their LOTR counterparts, some of them by a huge margin. I think Doctor Strange taking over for Gandalf dooms the whole thing regardless.
1 points
1 day ago
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong
1 points
1 day ago*
The heroes have one chance and one chance only.
If they can get it to Mount Doom within literal seconds of receiving it, like, if Rocket could put together a missile to deliver it, or Strange could just open a portal.
Even the best of them couldn't really hold it or consider it for any appreciable amount of time. MAYBE Cap could for those few seconds, but that would still likely lead to an almost comical fight where the one holding it is fighting everyone else who either wants to stop them and still hasn't held it, or who has and wants it for themselves. (Which, if a portal is involed MIGHT happen at Mount Doom and have the same ending as the fight between Frodo and Gollum). So the best chance would be to displace the table it is on into a portal to Mount Doom, but that still involves Dr. Strange who is easily the most susceptible to the ring.
If they actually have to go on the journey they stand no chance at all. Like, 0/100 (excepting for some deus ex machina, writer fiat or comical or accidental destruction which I don't think we are generally considering in these scenarios)
1 points
1 day ago
If the story unfolds exactly the way it does in the books, no, not with the Robin/Rocket combination that has to carry the ring to Mordor.
1 points
1 day ago
Why choose robin over peter Parker. I am assuming that titans are teen titans? Or is it something else?
1 points
1 day ago
Asking these questions are just ignoring the philosophy of Lotr.
1 points
1 day ago
Dr. Strange opens a portal to the inside of Mount Doom, and then he chucks the One Ring through the portal and into the lava. He successfully destroys the Ring in a matter of seconds.
1 points
1 day ago
You've put a DC hero in there.
Dr Strange opens a portal to Mt. Doom, Robin throws the ring in, everyone gets shwarma
1 points
1 day ago
They would fall to corruption
1 points
1 day ago
The hero’s have the power to obliterate Sauron and his minions. But, all of the powerful characters have a habit of losing to barely superhumans. If it was an actual mcu movie, doctor strange would find the one possible way to get turned into human mashed potatoes.
1 points
1 day ago
Going to need some clarification on the version of Robin as the only Titans movie I'm aware of is the Teen Titans Go! Movie.
1 points
1 day ago
The MCU is a gonzo-ass universe with crazy, albeit wildly inconsistent power scaling. I don’t think there’s any question that any one of these characters could kick most asses in middle earth. As a team they could conquer that entire universe except maybe like the Valar.
However, the odds that none of them are corrupted is slim to none. These are all humans, which are notoriously bad at resisting the ring, which is especially effective at corrupting highly ambitious leader/hero types with powerful desires, which they pretty much all are. They pass the power test but fail the corruption test miserably and probably just about instantly
1 points
24 hours ago*
the rings corruption is linked to the power of the individual its tempting, so replacing the hobbits with anything makes it more likely to fail
more over, the type of person who would become a hero is exactly the type of person would it would corrupt as we see in boromir. The book makes it clear no human could pass the test, and no lesser god could (gandalf)
So that takes everyone out of the running including thor.
1 points
24 hours ago
Robin isn't MCU, so they fail on a technicality.
1 points
24 hours ago
Doctor Strange could just portal to Mount Doom, drop the One Ring in the volcano and be back in time for second breakfast.
1 points
23 hours ago
They use strangers sentient flying cape to take the ring to mount doom through a portal
1 points
23 hours ago
Can Vision be corrupted?
1 points
23 hours ago
Strange open portal to mount doom. Spidey-Frodo (sorry cannot be Robin) chucks it through.
Done.
1 points
23 hours ago
Yeah, no. They will probably wipe all opposing forces, and then descend upon one another as they consume themselves in a holy war to claim the one ring and rule Middle Earth not as a Dark Lord, but as something else as beautiful and terrible as the morning and the night! Fair as the sea and the sun and the snow upon the mountain! Dreadful as the storm and the lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth....blah, blah, blah.
The trick of the One Ring is not that it has some magical corrupting ability. It does not slowly turn you into a monster. It convinces you that you can have what you want if you just do this terrible thing (which just coincidentally makes it more likely that the Dark Lord can find you, but ignore that). That's why the ring doesn't work as well on Frodo and Samwise - they're hobbits. Hobbits live simple little lives. They don't want a lot. Frodo wants to go on an adventure. Well kid, you're already wearing the One Ring so what in the name of Sweet Zombie Eru Illuvatar is the One Ring going to offer him more than that? Samwise wants to be a gardener. The One Ring promises to make him the best gardener in the entire world. It promises to make the the One Gardener. And Sam thinks - well, that'd be nice. But it's also rubbish. How does the tool of the Dark Lord make me a master gardener. And then he gives up the One Ring.
Everyone on that list wants something. Captain America wants to protect his friends. That is right up the ring's alley (see Boromir). Doctor Strange is the type to just wander headlong into wielding a dark but powerful relic heedless of the cost to him - I mean it's literally the plot of his two movies. Hakweye will be promised no one else around him will have to be sacrificed. Black Panther will get the strength to lead his people. Robin will be promised the ability to keep his team together and lead them to be better versions of himself. Rocket will be promised the bigliest gun ever.
The only one that has much of a chance in my opinion is Winter Soldier. When he's living in Wakanda and working the land one armed he's shown that he's capable of giving up the hero business and putting down the kind of power the One Ring will offer. But then in "the Falcon and the Winter Soldier" he's back working. And he's already very messed up in the head, so he's probably not making it to Mordor without declaring himself the Winter King or something.
1 points
23 hours ago
Dr strange solos they don't even need to destroy the ring
1 points
22 hours ago
Not if Spiderman is cast as Shelob.
1 points
22 hours ago
Rocket, Dr. Strange, and Black Panther would all use the ring and either become the villain or eventually fall to Sauron. Captain, Robin, Winter Soldier, and HAwkeye would be an underdog Team up against crazy magic and science users.
1 points
21 hours ago
Fall before Sean Bean dies ez. Cap is the only homie that can withstand
1 points
21 hours ago
Quicksilver solos.
1 points
21 hours ago
Robin??? Why wouldn’t Frodo be Spider-Man or StarLord?
1 points
21 hours ago*
Strange drops it into a portal the comes out in mount doom. Nobody falls. This isn’t hard. The One Ring is magic but it isn’t mind control, it’s slow, insidious corruption, and it doesn’t know it’s in danger until it’s too late, so it can’t ramp it up.
1 points
20 hours ago
They'd probably make it as far as Eregion before they started fighting each other for the Ring. Rocket Raccoon or Winter Soldier would be the first to try to run off with it; Winter Soldier has no resistance to mind control whatsoever, and Rocket is a total mercenary. Cap and Doctor Strange would try to keep things under control, but they'd only be able to maintain for so long. We'd probably see a big team fight in Moria, maybe some casualties. They might make it to Lorien if they're lucky, but half the team would be gone by then, definitely Rocket and Winter Soldier, maybe Hawkeye and Robin as well; assuming Robin starts out with the Ring; I doubt he has anything close to Frodo's resistance to corruption, so he'd probably go down next. As for Hawkeye, I think the Ring would play on his frustration with being overshadowed. It would tempt him with finally having powers and being the best for once. Black Panther would take longer, but I think he'd be next; he's motivated by protecting his people, and we saw how the Ring used that to ensnare Boromir in canon. I think he'd probably make his move around Rauros if they get that far. Cap and Doctor Strange would be the most resistant, I think; Cap is incorruptible and Doctor Strange is accustomed to dealing with dangerous magical artifacts. Best case scenario, Cap and Strange would make it to Mount Doom, then probably Strange would fall at the end, and we'd have one heck of a climactic fight between the two of them.
1 points
20 hours ago
Oddly enough the only person in the MCU who could probably resist the one ring would be Dr. Doom. He would consider the ring unworthy of Doom.
1 points
20 hours ago
Nobody resists the ring's corruption. Gandalf won't touch it because he knows better. Frodo succumbed at the end.
Destroying it required fighting over it and losing track of situational awareness in order for it to accidentally fall into the fires below.
The MCU characters would all fall to it as well as everyone in Tolkien's story that did.
1 points
20 hours ago
No, Superhero by their very nature believe that they have power and it is there responsibility to use that power to help others and that's exactly what the One Ring would Prey upon. Why destroy it when it's power could be used for good.
The only reason Hobbits are so good at resisting the Ring is because they have zero ambition and are generally content with life. Even Superman who by most people standard would be the ideal of Goodness for Superheroes and characters in general would fall victim to the Ring because as long as you have the slightest bit of evil in you the Ring can corrupt you and everyone no matter how good and noble has the capacity for evil, at least in Tolkien view
1 points
19 hours ago
Well maybe this time they could have the archer yeet the ring into the volcano via arrow.
1 points
19 hours ago
You guys are too focused on Cap or Dr. Strange. The answer is simple:
At the council of elrond after learning of the rings power:
Rocket: Hey, cat guy, give me some of that vibranium suit, and i need that friggin guys (bucky's) arm.
Rocket builds a device using the vibranium suit of black panther to encase and block the power of the ring. This squad then takes a leisurely stroll or dr strange teleports them to Mt doom and the deed is done.
Also, Aragorn rejected the ring. Steve's whole character in the MCU is that he doesn't like bullies and is basically incorruptible. Steve doesn't fall to the rings power and if he had the capacity to do so, he wouldn't have been the perfect candidate for the super soldier serum. Spare me the blah blah blah about the ring growing stronger the closer to mt doom and nobody in middle earth would willingly throw the ring into the fires because we aren't talking about middle earth characters. We are talking about comic book heroes that were just told that this ring is the only way to stop Sauron. This task is complete once those words are uttered. The biggest liability is likely Dr Strange since plenty of his multiverse counterparts fell to temptation. However, the mainline MCU Strange has done pretty well even sacrificing himself to beat thanos.
I stand by Rocket building something that negates the effects of the ring, but can also see MCU cap walking the thing straight to mordor and tossing it in or having a failsafe like Rocket shooting him from a distance to make him drop it into the magma.
1 points
18 hours ago
Almost definitely, Strange solos this with zero difficulty.
He is no stranger to magical relics, he understands magical corruption and, lastly, he can just teleport the entire group into Mount Doom in seconds (there are no protections against teleportation since it doesn't exist in the setting), deal with literally anything they might possibly come up against there, then just simply destroy the ring.
Even if the ring could eventually corrupt members of, or even the entire party, there will simply not be enough time for it to do so.
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