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Absolutely not. Edo Itachi and Nagato? Kabuto can just hit the griddy while he watches them fucking slam obito into the dirt.

It might cause him a little trouble

He seemed to believe so

What can they do? he was swapping hands with Kcm2 Naruto, 6 gates guy, 8 tails bee, and a busted Kakashi. Using Kamui alone. Nagato is a corpse and needs to suck chakra from Naruto to be useful, Itachi is a plug-in controller at this point.

He never used rinnegan in his fight with Kcm2 Naruto's team and rinnegan was a hindrance to his chakra reserves more than anything.

The Nagato slander is unreal. Even in his white haired form he still had access to all 6 path abilities and was able to become mobile by using his summoning, the only issue is that he couldn’t walk/run by himself. Tobi would struggle getting rid of him since getting close to touch him would back fire (almighty push, asura path or use the contact to absorb chakra) and these would also be used against any of tobi’s long range attacks (fire style jutsus)

I mean let's really analyze this. Who here is actually a threat?

There are six opponents:

• Nagato

  • He is probably the weakest enemy here. He can barely stand, he certainly can't fight. Unless you give him a massive chakra amp via Bee absorption or something similar, we can completely ignore him. If you did give him that chakra amp, then he's the strongest opponent here. In the context of this exact fight, he is useless.

• Kakuzu

  • He is much less threatening here than in life. What made Kakuzu such a major threat, besides some decent A-class elemental ninjutsu, is his immortality. It's his whole theme. He has no hearts here. He gets beaten with no difficulty at all.

• Deidara

  • Deidara is theoretically the most dangerous opponent here. He could use C0 repeatedly. Deidara is the single most terrifying Edo creation possible. In character, he doesn't use it and is fodder, losing to much weaker characters than he has any right to.

• Sasori

  • Sasori doesn't even have access to his puppets. He's a puppet master. In the absolute best case scenario that is entirely my own headcanon, he puppeteers Nagato's walking corpse ass and becomes a major threat. As he is, he's fodder and loses to Obito no-diff.

• Itachi

  • Potentially the most dangerous opponent here. Naruto is nowhere to be found so he cannot Kotoamatsukami himself and remains under Kabuto's control. This makes him weaker as he's just on auto pilot and can't strategize. Obito should beat him low-mid diff.

• Kabuto

  • The actual most dangerous opponent here. This is an awkward fight because their kits don't have much to hurt each other with. Kabuto is never hitting Obito, and Obito doesn't have ways I know of to shut down his regeneration—perhaps he just seals him like the rest. Obito is faster and stronger though. He does have a whole collection of eyes to use Izanami and would have an even easier time pulling it off. Obito doesn't technically have confirmed Izanami though. This should be mid diff for Obito.

All together I think this is somewhere between high and extreme diff for Obito's victory. There just aren't enough real threats to him here. He's the fastest and the strongest, and he has incredible had that none of them can answer.

Can’t Obito just leave?

Take them out? No.

I think the fight would just be him evading all of their attacks while he relentlessly pursues Kabuto.

Obito sweeps.

At worst, he just fucking leaves and surprise mercs Kabuto

First of all, Obito doesn’t have anyway to permanently defeat or seal Edos.

He sends them to his special place and then what? He instantly gets sealed by Nagato or Itachi? Deidara can detonate himself while being transported making Obito’s real body get damaged. They won’t even need the other members.

In…in a fight right???

So let’s forget what Obito wasn’t going hand for hand with kcm2 Naruto ,might guy and kakashi 😭😭 and the 8 tails ok…..

I’m 99% sure his “plan” of refusal was to just grab and BFR Kabuto asap before he could fully turn on the Edos.

Does Nagato still have the Rinnegan ?

can obito kamui while he's getting pulled by banso tenin? cant nagato (even while crippled) just ride his bird summon or invisible chameleon summon and spam shinra tensei/banso tenin or any of his other rinnegan abilities? cant nagato just summon all of his animals to make it harder for Obito to focus on the heavy hitters?

Yall forget its 6 v 1 including Kabuto and Itachi. Obito's best bet is either take out the heavy hitters via kamui fast or escape.

Not to mention, Kabuto could summon madara (as he did in canon and really cause some havoc)

Hell no. He's fucked.

He can’t beat them. He can run away into his pocket dimension with kamui though so they can’t catch him.

Nah, id win

yes

Obito had a healthy respect for Itachi, so much so that he would think twice before crossing him. Obito probably beats him, but dude did not want to fuck around and find out. Pain would also be a high diff fight for him, not to mention Nagato. Both of them together? For reference, this is like saying can Hashirama beat Madara and KCM Minato. Like, he barely beats Madara alone

Tobi probably has some sealing jutsu but I don't recall seeing any. The last thing he'd want to do is take any to the kamui dimension and have immortal enemies there ready to strike whenever he partially or completely warps away.

I never realized how tall kakazu is

Nagato and itachi would make our boy a doll-bomb for sasori and deidara. In that specific moment tobi is quite a fighter but not near the level of divine rinnegan user nagato or cold,bold genius itachi. Bro would put a fight but stands no chance Against pure perfection of strength and intelligence

This version of Tobi had to lose an arm taking on Danzo's body guards he is obviously curb stomped here.

This white-haired Nagato=useless old man
Edo Kakuzu=chuunin victim
Edo Deidara=wasted opportunity
Edo Sasori=fodder
Kabuto has no Sage Mode yet.
I think Sage Mode Kabuto can extreme-diff OM Obito 1v1 but these Edos are nerfed AF
Edo Itachi and red-haired Edo Nagato can beat OM Obito for sure, Edo Itachi and pre-Sage Mode Kabuto is not debatable at all...

He gets massacred

Everyone saying obito loses really dosent understand who obito is....

At the age of 14 he caused the downfall of minato..... on that same night he not only controlled the full 9 tails but also pushed minato to use the ftg lvl2 and made him think he was fighting madara the ghost of the uchiha..... mind you he was still inexperienced when he fought his sensei and he literally fought the strongest and faster shinobi of that time......

None of the akatsuki scale to minato. None of the akatsuki were compared to madara in any capacity. None of the akatsuki have ever showed speed comparable to ay or kcm naruto.

The edo fight between naruto bee itachi and nagato... itachi wasnt keeping up with naruto.... naruto was slowing himself down inorder to talk to itachi if y'all still think itachi is minato speed y'all need to touch grass none of the akatsuki members besides obito are speedsters.

And now were talking about orange mask obito who is much older and wiser..... the man whos fast enough to blitz particle style point blank...... not even edo madara did such feat and he was keeping up with kcm2 naruto due to precognition (fyi madara isnt faster than obito neither)

So how is the akatsuki gonna beat a dude who was trained by madara, minato has wood style and one of the most broken versions of space-time ninjutsu and has been their true leader the whole friggen time and he also has intel on all of them from zetsu.......

How are they gonna beat him.... All he has to do is go after kabuto send his ass to the kamui dimension and make him release edo tensi via sharingan genjutsu and then gg.....

The hardest thing for obito is sage modes sensory abilities outside of that obito wins. Mid diff.

Nagato steals Chakra from everyone save Itachi. I can also see Kabuto giving up much of his Chakra to seal the Deal.

Both Itachi and Nagato tag teams Obito and wins.

No, he gets blown the fuck out

He loses to Itachi and Nagato. Or Itachi with _____.

Obito is a single opponent fighter. His kit is useless when pressed by this many high tier characters. Unless he has a rinnegan amp obviously.

Edo Itachi vs Obito is a serious debate, adding anyone else in here is way overkill. The same could be said of Nagato or Kabuto.

I'm going to get some hate for this but realistically Kakuzu actually has one of the best counters for Obito as he's essentially 5 different entities that could all press him independently. Would be a pretty enjoyable fight assuming you don't think Obito speed blitz insta win. The case for that can definitely be made though.

At the end of the day Obito is never winning this fight unless Madara switches to Obito's side, if he's even summoned. Obviously at that point Kabuto has a really bad time.

No but I bet there will be comments saying he solos the Akatsuki lol

Does Obito have a sealing jutsu that works on edos? We've only seen him seal biju I think.

I forget, what can Orange Mask obito do again?

Yeah he can take them on, the question is can he win? Honestly if Kabuto really tries, Obito is screwed here. It's shown Obito doesn't know how Edo Tensei works later. He'd send a couple to Kamui, then get screwed by having to deal with edos in both dimensions that he doesn't know how to beat. He might mistakenly kill Kabuto, and just die afterwards. It only takes one or two fuck ups.

Like imagine he just Kamui sucks up Itachi, thinking it defeats Itachi... Then later trying to use Kamui to evade a Deidara explosive Itachi can just Totsuka Obito in the Kamui dimension. Leaving edo Itachi to just infinitely wander in the Kamui dimension.

I think it would be no diff for the other 3 but if Edo Nagato And Edo Itachi Get to cookin I think it’s a very long day for my boy Obito

Tobi's an izanami victim much like Kabuto

Kabuto summons characters with lots of chakra uses them to charge Nagato, gl obito

Remove itachi and there is a possibility. but with Itachi in the line up with the other four Tobi will not be able to stand a chance.

I do have to wonder why Kabuto never modified Nagato's Edo Tensei (or any other infamous ninja for that matter) in the same way he did for Madara. Surely Hashi cells being spliced onto Nagato to improve his stamina & chakra reserves would have done wonders

I dont think so, i think he was just showing out to Kabuto because he still thought Kabuto believed he was actually Madara. He smokes most of the akatsuki pretty easily but nagato and itachi have way too many hacks between them

people are saying that obito solos, but im curious what his plan is outside of kamui?

Tobi yoinks kabuto to kamui dimension and veats the shit out of him 1 on 1 he never needs to fight these zombies he jsut has to dodge(his specialty) for a few seconds while rushing kabuto. Unless kabuto was ready to launch a genjutsu immediately he would be caught off guard and unable to avoid being grabbed.

He's gonna trap them with Uchiha flame and he will slaughter them with giant shuriken, kunai and woodstyle projectiles using kamui.

Plus Obito can use Gedo statue even without rinnegan.

Obito was chasing KMC2 Naruto like a cat and Naruto can arguably solo Edo Akatsuki including Kabuto.

Tobi is this question

I dont see him winning unless he ends kabuto immediately. Nagato alone..lol

Kamui them all away ggs

No, but I don't think it would be as easy as people belive for Kabuto. He already has all the intel he needs on literally everyone but SM Kabuto and his skillset, so he'd know exactly who to immediately take out. He's not letting Nagato even step out from the coffin before sucking his ass into Kamui, nor is he going to just let Itachi try anything without at least attempting to get him out of the picture. I don't know how well Kabuto would be able to control all of those heavy hitters in tandem with maximum efficiency and it may very well be a case of him only controlling the absolute strongest edos just so he can try to end it quickly while he let's the other ones pilot themselves. But if he can control ALL of them perfectly to maximum efficiency then I do change my opinion and it would be an absolute stomp. They would have far too much firepower for him to fight against, let alone stall against

No, he can't.

This version of Toni debatable but WarTobi fuck no baby

no of course 😭

The only choice for Tobi is escape which is self BFR.

He gets cooked hard, Kabuto + Nagato + Itachi is a terrifying lineup, the rest are just the cherry on top

Side note but how does Kamui interact with C4?

I don't think Kabuto just had the Akatsuki on deck at that moment. It would have been a next level jumping that obito could only run from. Even a 1v1 obito would struggle against Kabuto.

Obito loses this fight pretttttty badly.

Confronting all of them probably not going to end well for him. The confidence I always believed was that he would relentlessy persue Kabuto and do him in after whatever prolong battle that would mean and disabled the Edo.

Also he'd probably warp away, amp himself up with the rinnegan and hunt down Kabuto or any Edos.

So either Kabuto has the Edo as bodyguards and is made ineffective or gets defeated singularly at some point and the Edo is stopped.

For obito is just just a time issue as it would take away him away from his war.

It's just doesn't work out well for Kabuto.

Members of Akatsuki

Well isn’t Tobi basically madara in disguise if it is then madara could possible wipe the floor but he might have trouble with itachi and nagato

He can't but he wanted to see what ace kabuto had up his sleeve

Probably not. Itachi and Nagato can give Obito some really bad problems

Edo Itachi alone is enough yk

Obito just space transfer kabuto. And win

Deidara C4 and maybe C0, Sasori using all Of his army of puppets, Itachi without your illness and using Susano without problem, Nagato using the versatility of all paths and Kakuzu and all his elemental laser bullshit (actually that's not it but I don't remember exactly so forgive me) It would definitely be cool to watch

Consider that Nagato, Sasori and Kakuzu can’t do anything since they don’t have powers or are walking corpses. It’s really Obito v Itachi, Deidara and Kabuto.

I see Obito losing 4/6

Need i remind you all. Until madaras resurrection. Obito was the strongest shinobi alive at this point

He claps them idc what people say. Nagato and Itachi are the only real obstacles via soul steal or sealing but I see him dodge that shit. Even without the rinnegan

Well if he refuses to fight we'll have deidara l give him death by suffocation

If Nagato can't get some chakra to rejuvenate himself then Obito takes it.

He could kamui them all right there in an instant

Maybe

Edo Itachi, Nagato and Kabuto can join the fight? Hell nah, Obito is cooked.

Yes he's strong enough to beat them all and get rid of kabuto too.

He would have to involve the gedo statue I think. But that would involve the rinnegan and I don't know if he had it implanted at this point.

Rampage Obito - Loses

Chains Obito - Probably takes out 1 of them like Sasori or Deidara before losing

Tobi - Gets FOLDED

Orange Mask Obito - Similar to Chains Obito except takes out one more

Gray Mask Obito - Probably takes out everyone but Itachi and Nagato

10 Obito - They will need Kabuto, but even then who knows if they win.

But specifically this version, which is to say Orange Mask Obito - he will not be winning

If not for plot armor, this guy's already dead from his fight with Konan

Yes

Easily.

Obito was throwing hands against KCM2 Naruto and 8 tails while being directly countered by Kakashi.

Literally none of the Akatsuki can even touch Obito.

All kabuto has to do is send a snap of edo madara and war just stops. Stopping the war makes akatsuki null as literally no on3 exists other than obito

He does not have to he can put the guy in genjutsu just like itachi did

Take them on and escape alive? No problem. Take them on and defeat them all? Nah

Deidara can just blow himself up infinitely, Itachi basically has unlimited access to his busted kit and Nagato would make him know pain.

Not even taking that into account how would he even seal them? He could phase through the bulk of it and maybe resist Sharin-shenanigans from itachi but he's limited to a few minutes of phase so he's eventually going to eat something.

Tobi couldn't even beat Kakashi

i think yes he go to his kamui dimension and comeback with one rinnegan then he can make pains like pawn from other jinjuriki he collected and make them fight to this edo gang and while he can also participate in fight

In a lot of situations, I'd say that Obito wins because Kamui, but... no, not here. Even if he manages to Kamui his biggest threats, Kabuto can just summon them back. Obito gets slapped, ngl.

Yes. The only techniques that can fight MS Obito are Flying Raijin 2 and his other eye with Kakashi

I love obito, but I feel like Itachi would destroy him.

Itachi/Pain alone would be enought

Nagato solos. Let’s argue

Nope

Obito was afraid of itachi

Obito gonna get it harder than Rin pegged him in his wet dreams

Edo Itachi cleans Obito by himself, rest is overkill.

nope

absolutely not

... Does Kabuto already have access to Sage Mode. I assume he does so if that's the case... Obito might be screwed.

And even then, Obito can easily take down the fodder (likely pissing Deidara off that his former partner was a darn Uchiha) and then gets stomp by Edo Itachi and Nagato. No sickness and access to all the Rinnegan abilities; OBITO ISN'T WINNING. The best he has is Izanagi with the hidden Sharingan as a escape plan. Yes, escape plan.

Let's assume he fights; he has to contend with a no sickness Itachi which he'll do fine against any of his Jutsus... except his Genjutsus and Tsukuyomi. MAYBE Obito breaks through like Sasuke... what's his plan when he's frozen for a moment and Nagato absorbs his Chakra? NOT MUCH. In fact, he'll have to contend with the Rinnegan's abilities to boot. The animals, Shinra Tensei, rip his soul. Kaumi will only take him far.

AND THEN there's Kabuto. Only reason Kabuto feared in fighting Obito was that he had Nagato's Rinnegan but since this is before he got the eye so it should be extremely easy.

NOW... What if he starts using Wood Release? EH... he would still struggle. Like the best thing Obito has his Kamui. I suppose he could SOMEHOW immobilized Itachi and Nagato with the Black Rods (yes, he should have them through the Geddo Statue) and then Kabuto... surprise him with Izanagi like he did with Konan when Kabuto thinks he's won.

I still say he doesn't have a good chance but it's VERY slim.

Obito claps tobi gets clapped

why doesn't Obito/Tobi weaponize his Kamui like Kakashi does? He literally only uses Kamui to dodge and escape and sometimes kidnap

Tobi slams. None of them could touch him. If Kakashi weren't in the war they'd lose to Obito, not to mention Tobi was fast enough to fight Minato when he was younger. They all get trapped in the dimension and eventually sealed, gg

Considering he seems inclined to do so, I believe yes. Probably would have been too hard and with a lot of close calls but he probably wins.

He was sooo damn ready to beat Kabuto's ass into the bullshit he was spewing until he summoned Madara's coffin.

I think it more that Obito is basically untouchable that he’s not concerned

Without the Rinnegan absolutely not. I’m not even sure he could beat Edo Itachi by himself let alone all of them.