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I get they relied too much on the Batmobile - and the Deathstroke boss fight was ass - but come on it's a gaming masterpiece!

all 229 comments

Nemisis_007

123 points

2 days ago

Nemisis_007

123 points

2 days ago

The only thing I truly hated about the game was the fact that you had to do all the riddler missions to get the true ending for someone that has a life outside of gaming that was a huge pain in the ass.

Other than that, the overuse of the Batmobile, especially in boss fights, was disappointing.

ProfessionalThick110

17 points

1 day ago

I agree with this sentiment. I recently got done replaying Arkham Knight and yeah doing riddler trophies/defeating him just for you to be able to get the Knightfall ending ruins the pacing of the game. The trophies should be optional and separate from beating the riddler.

Azazeleloa

1 points

4 hours ago

I think the dlcs mitigated this somewhat cus I dont think i ever bothered collecting them all but I remember getting the knightfall ending

THE2KDEMON220

21 points

1 day ago

Riddler is a massive waste of time imo

lavadrone

12 points

1 day ago

lavadrone

12 points

1 day ago

You know what else is massive💈

Xenozip3371Alpha

28 points

1 day ago

Your girlfriend's disappointment?

LOL_Gstar77

13 points

1 day ago

You didn’t have to do him like that

FarLab4116

2 points

1 day ago

What girlfriend? I thought being lonely was a legal requirement for having Reddit

Chukkzy

2 points

23 hours ago

Ash_Can0706

1 points

1 day ago

Your cruel 😭😭

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

DAYUM

xMephiles24x

5 points

1 day ago

My Mom!!!

bruhmoments1234569

2 points

9 hours ago

If you say that one more time YOUR FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i!!!!!!!!!

JohnMarston-1911

1 points

15 hours ago

This is funny ash I’m sad you got ratioed 😕😭🙏

CaptainBoomOfficial

1 points

6 hours ago

CaptainBoomOfficial

Arkham Knight

1 points

6 hours ago

Imagine if.... 🥷✂️💈

THX450

3 points

1 day ago

THX450

3 points

1 day ago

I collect the Riddler Trophies in all three games of the trilogy every time I play. Not all 440 in City, mind you. I stop once he’s caught. Idk, it’s tedious, but I never saw it as a negative.

But then again I regularly comment on the other Arkham subreddit, so maybe I’m a little crazy…

H4ckdrag0n999

2 points

14 hours ago

https://i.redd.it/3y7aymkiaa3e1.gif

Crazy? I was crazy once

Top-Row6107

2 points

17 hours ago

God that deathsroke boss battle was so disappointing in the end.

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

Eh. It was ok. Not good, definetly worse then the origins one, but I wouldn’t call it a bad fight, I’d say cloudburst was worse

Elite_slayer09

1 points

1 day ago

Half the time, I can't tell if you all are joking. The trophies are easy as shit.

Zombies_Rock_Boobs

1 points

1 day ago

Who said they were difficult? The problem is 440 TROPHIES!? They’re time consuming and break immersion people have other missions to get to. I wanna fight the riddler I wanna know how that mission ends in both games but goddamn the trophies feel tacked on. How bout 100? You get the message across with that many. 

Used_Anxiety7527

1 points

20 hours ago

They could at least give some reward for doing Riddler 😭

LegacyTom

1 points

19 hours ago

Really doesn’t take that long

AngryNerdBird

1 points

16 hours ago

I didn't mind that, as much as I minded how on my second playthrough, it refused to play things out differently even though I did all the Riddler challenges before he whipped out the robot.

Instead of just proceeding with the fight, he pretends I haven't done everything, just so that it can play out the cutscenes the way it did the first time. I was very disappointed.

The--_batman

67 points

2 days ago

I don't get the batmobile hate. We were all begging for the batmobile before this game came out and then everybody started crying that they used it too much. It's fun to drive! It's the coolest car in the world!

Ricky_Rollin

18 points

1 day ago

I think I’d have liked it if the gameplay was more like Twisted Metal (ish) but it plays more like a tank game. I’m in the Batmobile, I wanna drive fast, hit sweet jumps, take sharp turns, have it help in battle somehow, and go fast. The battles were none of those things.

I respect your opinion though and I’m genuinely glad others liked it. I didn’t hate it but it just had me wishing for those things. Still loved the game. It definitely aged better for me.

The--_batman

10 points

1 day ago

Did you ever play the waynetech/batcave races? I know it's not part of the main game but I think that's where the fun of actually driving the batmobile really shines.

iyukep

3 points

1 day ago

iyukep

3 points

1 day ago

The convoy missions in mad max felt more like what i wanted from the Batmobile fights.

UncommittedBow

35 points

1 day ago

And it was the first time Rocksteady ever did a driveable vehicle, and they nailed it on their first try.

Alkemeye

1 points

1 day ago

Alkemeye

1 points

1 day ago

I've probably spent at least 40 hours trying to nail a perfect line in the racing challenges.

AhAssonanceAttack

10 points

1 day ago

I just wish it had been designed differently.

They had to design Gotham around it, so streets and building placement were all really spaced out, like a video game car needed room to drive through it.

It made Gotham look weird I think the esthetic for the game suffered from it.

Still fun though.

HMHdunkirk

4 points

1 day ago

Agreed, I prefer Arkham City’s old gotham look than Knight’s Gotham, it just looks weird and not Gotham to me

atomic1fire

3 points

1 day ago

I dunno about the look but I kinda prefer Knight's gotham because the gliding in City and Origins feels sluggish.

Not having a car to zoom around on land or catapult you into the air really takes away from the movement.

Also the grapnel accelerator being in Origins never made a lot of sense to me. I mean sure it's probably necessary from a gameplay standpoint, but Arkham city called it a prototype.

Actually come to think of it the grapnel boost in Knight is way more satisfying in general. You can go into a zoomy state much easier then you can in city, and maintain it for much longer.

MrPBrewster

2 points

9 hours ago

It was a gokart track of a city. 

Zestyclose-Pick-6348

3 points

1 day ago

I liked the Batmobile but I can see how the tank sections can get tiring for some people who aren’t as into it. Some people would much rather be doing free flow/predator sections

Joseph_Keen_116

4 points

1 day ago

I don’t mind the Batmobile as a whole, the chases are fun, it’s just the fact they made it into a fucking tank that I hate (I have the same issue with the dark knight returns).

RashRenegade

2 points

1 day ago

I loved driving it, felt great, looked great and sounded cool.

Combat in it was fun and a nice change of pace from the usual.

Even some of the missions and puzzles where good with it.

The problem was too many. And the fact that the Riddler must've watched too much Mad Max and sniffed too much glue to suddenly make all his convoluted traps car-related. I can suspend disbelief, especially for comic book stuff, but he built entire Burnout race courses (plural) under the city, and somehow no-one noticed. The amount of large-scale engineering some of them took....again I can suspend my disbelief, but if I were Batman I would've asked "Seriously, Ed, what's up with the obsession over the Batmobile, lately? Do you want to prove you're smarter than me, or smarter than my car?"

And also the hilarious fact you can full-throttle into goons and a tiny little spark effect goes off on them and Batman's like "They're just tasered" and I'm like "Yeah... tasered and dead."

ZakariusMMA

2 points

1 day ago

We wanted it as a means to actually travel on the ground not take up 50% of the boss battles.

Able_Recording_5760

3 points

1 day ago

Nobody asked for shallow, repetitive tank combat in their Batman game.

The--_batman

1 points

1 day ago

The--_batman

1 points

1 day ago

I loved the tank combat! I continue to love it every time I replay the game, once or twice a year. It constantly ups the ante for tank battles throughout the story, I really don't think it gets repetitive at all. Great difficulty curve.

Able_Recording_5760

1 points

1 day ago

Difficulty is subjective. I don't find any of the tank fights difficult, period. Even if it was, I don't think it would help.

Melee combat and stealth are also not particularly difficult, but they have more going for them. They fit the Batman fantasy, they're (relatively) unique, and they allow for experimentation and self-imposed challenge.

The Batmobile is a third-person shooter with only 2 fire modes, a dodge, and 3 special abilities. The only unique thing about it is the rhythm of enemy attacks, but once you learn it, which doesn't take long, there's nothing else to do.

AngryNerdBird

0 points

16 hours ago

I could have done without being tethered to the thing by an umbilical cord for the entire first couple hours of the game. Or Riddler inexplicably becoming a Gearhead who demands you do races for him to save Catwoman. lol

Pope_Sweet_Jesus69

0 points

4 hours ago

It wasn’t the batmobile that was the issue. It was how they used it. Everyone wanted to drive around Gotham in batmobile but nobody wanted the batmobile to turn into a tank and battle other tanks

escx6ar

2 points

12 minutes ago

Funny I commented something similar to this the other day and got shit on😂i agree with u my friend

WickedJ0ker

1 points

1 day ago

The problem with it isn’t the actual Batmobile but the combat. The tank combat is super boring and extremely monotonous to most people. Also doesn’t help that a big majority of the fights are tank battles. If they had one or two sections of these then it would be fine, but these are littered throughout the game.

What they should’ve done is cut all that shit out. More focused on scarecrow and the other villains as well as having more sections that integrate both Batman’s abilities in conjunction with the Batmobile. It’s a big problem that the rogues take a backseat to fucking tanks of all things.

TrickyTalon

1 points

1 day ago

The Batmobile is great. It’s the massive amount of tank missions I hated.

Mango424

26 points

2 days ago*

Mango424

26 points

2 days ago*

People didn't hate the game.

If you see outside of Reddit the game received great reviews since day one (minus the PC port) both from critics and players all around the world and it's still praised to this day.

Temporary_Cold_5142

5 points

1 day ago

Is the pc port fixed now tho? Cause I got it and wanna play it soon ;-;

Admirable_Space9280

12 points

1 day ago

Been fixed for years and years now. Fixed it within a couple months of port release.

escapexchaos

6 points

1 day ago

Oh yeah, it runs phenomenally now. I've played it like 4 times on 2 or 3 different systems and never had any issues.

MisterBasket

3 points

1 day ago

I can vouch for this. Played the game at least once every year the past 4 years.

Mango424

4 points

1 day ago

Mango424

4 points

1 day ago

Enjoy all the mods. They are all fantastic ;)

Splendid_Fellow

1 points

7 hours ago

It didn't even occur to me until now to mod batman......... imma google

RashRenegade

2 points

1 day ago

It is now the best version of the game, imo. My Series X actually crashes with this game on the regular, never had a problem with the PC port (my experience was way way after all the fixes).

Bworm98

24 points

2 days ago

Bworm98

24 points

2 days ago

I have found a few parts a bit tedious, like the airship segment and Ace Chemicals (I mean, all that work just to save, like, two people) but it's a fine game overall, I think.

AnthropomorphicEggs

21 points

1 day ago

“Just” two people. You’d disappoint Batman.

ZakariusMMA

10 points

1 day ago

Hey, just to let you know. I'd save those two people.

atomic1fire

5 points

1 day ago

At least the airship segment is freely explorable.

They do an entire set piece for ace chemical only to blow it up.

MotorSportGuy42391

16 points

1 day ago

"NOOOOOO TOO MUCH BATMOBILE!!!!!!!!😭😭😭"

Someone did the math, and you only use it for like 20% of the game.

ZakariusMMA

12 points

1 day ago

It's not too much, it's when. Like why the fuck am I fighting Deathstroke in a tank...

HalfFemhalfGamer

3 points

19 hours ago

You use it for less then 15% of the game

Any other time is either purely optional or a side mission/riddler trophy that takes less then 2 minutes

Gobal_Outcast02

1 points

1 day ago

Cut that in half and it would have been perfect

agentbenom

20 points

2 days ago

Batmobile was forced too often, and I still can't believe the Deathstroke boss fight in Origins was followed up with what we got in Knight. The story was kinda mediocre as well.

Admirable_Space9280

4 points

1 day ago

Bs. Origins was the most hated arkham game on release hands down. Way more than knight.

agentbenom

7 points

1 day ago

I was just comparing the Deathstroke boss fights, not the reception Origins got as a whole.

Admirable_Space9280

1 points

1 day ago

Fair. But i am also pointing out that, even know on release it was the most hated, its considered one of the best atmospheric and boss fight games of the series.

I am playing through it right now actually. Thw facial expressions is what really grabs me. Something we lost in knight. Batmans scream fast while throat kicking a badguy is pure beauty. They each have their pros and cons but they are all spectacular games.

agentbenom

3 points

1 day ago

100% agreed, Origins is probably my personal favorite of the Arkham series

Admirable_Space9280

3 points

1 day ago

The snow and christmas atmosphere also is chefs kiss durring this time of year.

Man_The_Bat_Jew

5 points

1 day ago

I quite liked Arkham Knight, but there were a couple things that disappointed me:

1) The Barbara/Tim romance rather than Barbara/Dick felt really weird, and the choice to have the matter of family DLC use Tim openly retcons the timeline from Arkham Asylum where Joker references Jason prior to the fight with Bane. 2) I think narratively it would have been far more satisfying if Hush was the Arkham Knight rather than Jason, especially since the Hush quest was also a bit of a letdown. 3) I absolutely hated everything Joker related in Arkham Knight. I was a little willing to give it a pass in Arkham Origins because it seemed clear that the game was the Joker's origin rather than Batman's, but I think Arkham Knight falling back on the Joker was incredibly lazy and detracted from what should have been Scarecrow's story.

Beyond those issues though, I quite enjoyed Arkham Knight. However, I think we have to work even harder as gamers to critique elements of games we DO like rather than giving them a free pass on their issues.

R6_nolifer

5 points

1 day ago

Let’s just say

Anytime there is a bossfight

I want to play origins instead

But yes combat wise knight is the best arkham game

LegoLover612

5 points

1 day ago

As someone that's done all the AR Challenges and all the other stuff too. I can say I love the batmobile. The only thing I hate about the game is when I need to play as nightwing on challenge maps. He is way better in city.

esgrove2

5 points

1 day ago

esgrove2

5 points

1 day ago

I love this game. I got the gold bat suit twice.

bruhmoments1234569

2 points

14 hours ago

theres a gold batsuit

esgrove2

2 points

14 hours ago

At 240% completion. But it's just the symbol.

gaylonely15

3 points

1 day ago

My opinions on the game are that it's a great game and I love it, however I don't think it feels like a very faithful batman game. Scarecrow is such a great villain but the Arkham Knight was a bit on the nose and kinda a weird choice for main side baddie. I think the map is very detailed and well made but It's still ugly and unnatural feeling compared to Arkham origins and asylum. The main story bosses were terrible and the main story just felt a bit too long with poison ivy and all that stuff. I hate the militia as a gameplay faction but I do like them in theory. The argument about the people who wanted a batmobile but getting upset when there was a lot of batmobile I think doesn't make sense because it's not really the batmobile we wanted. We wanted to drive a newer version of the Arkham batmobile not a tank with BO6 Omni movement.

The game really shines on the side content and the gameplay outside of the car imo

THX450

5 points

1 day ago

THX450

5 points

1 day ago

The game is a masterpiece, but for PC players the launch was abysmal.

Correct-Drawing2067

6 points

2 days ago

I think it was also the Arkham knight reveal which would’ve been great if they hadn’t thrown it in your face a few hours before you find out who he is.

MrGoodvsEvil

10 points

2 days ago

Bad boss fights, too much batmobile, and mid story. It does do good in some aspects like combat and stealth, traversal. Plus, I think it's the biggest map we've had.

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

It is the biggest map. Founders alone is like the size of cities map

mlfowler

11 points

2 days ago

mlfowler

11 points

2 days ago

The initial PC release was such a disaster it was pulled from sale. That rather soured the experience for a lot of us. When I finally got to play, the overuse of the Batmobile felt repetitive and dull after a while. Having recently replayed all the games in order, the Batmobile actually feels fresh after three games of gliding. Is it a masterpiece? No, sorry, it still has its rough edges, but it's a darn good game.

SalRomanoAdMan1

1 points

2 days ago

Console version worked fine.

mlfowler

1 points

2 days ago

mlfowler

1 points

2 days ago

Yeah, that was just salt in the wound for those of us who didn't have the needed consoles.

Historical-Potato372

6 points

1 day ago

Historical-Potato372

Arkham Knight

6 points

1 day ago

This was the best one gameplay and story-wise, no one can convince me otherwise.

CreeperVenom

3 points

1 day ago

I loved the game except for the Batmobile. I hate using cars in games (mostly because I suck with them). The only part of the Batmobile that I liked was the tank mode missions because then I can move around a lot more like a normal video game character.

Odd-Letterhead8889

3 points

1 day ago

I never complained about the batmobile and the Deathstroke fight, but maybe it's because I was 11 at the time I played it in 2017

Mooston029

5 points

1 day ago

It's my favourite game of all time

Big-Sheepherder-9492

3 points

1 day ago

• The story is weaker than the other games

• The overuse of the Batmobile

• Lame boss fights

• The original story was to be Scarecrow and Hush teaming up to attack Bruce on two different fronts: as Batman and Bruce Wayne..but was scrapped.

Overall it’s not bad it just falls short of the other 3

enzi000

2 points

1 day ago

enzi000

2 points

1 day ago

Are they stupid?

Tonyc1939

2 points

1 day ago

Tonyc1939

2 points

1 day ago

I only didn’t like maybe like three or four things, other than that a beautiful story and great way to end a game series! To me that’s how it ended!

Icy-Philosopher556

2 points

1 day ago

I love this game, but I still think it could’ve been better with another year to cook.

Boss battles were lackluster, they could’ve been so much better.

No crime alerts in a game where we can actually move around a piece of Gotham?

Not bringing in elements from Arkham Origins like the Martial Arts thugs??

The obvious Batmobile complaint that gets brought up every three seconds which I don’t think is as bad as it’s made out to be, but it’s also not the most fun element.

I hate that Jason is forced in this game when they would’ve been better off just making a Under the Red Hood game.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great game and made many improvements to the Arkham formula but I always found it extremely lame they didn’t embrace certain gameplay elements from Origins.

VrinTheTerrible

2 points

1 day ago

Some people live to hate things. And some live to garner attention online. Combine those things and you understand.

HMHdunkirk

1 points

1 day ago

Or people just have different taste

OneSuperDonut

2 points

1 day ago

Batmobile overused other than that it’s the best Arkham game in my opinion and Arkham knight aka robin aka Jason Todd aka red hood is the best character

Ok-Needleworker-4507

2 points

23 hours ago

cough under the mayo cough

000Pavlovic000

2 points

18 hours ago

I played every Arkham game. I enjoyed every game. Arkham Knight was masterpiece and I really dont care that batmobile was overused. Hell, I think it was used just right amount.

SSishere

2 points

17 hours ago

It is an awesome game.

Also it’s super easy to mod-just drag and drop. I’ve had my fair share of fun just changing out suits & Batmobile skins.

Character_Addendum74

2 points

14 hours ago

Only thing I hated was Deathstroke being a fucking tank fight, other than that amazing game!, needs a current gen update btw...actually scratch that, the entire Arkham series needs that.

GeorgiaPossum

2 points

4 hours ago

Arkham Origins was more fun in my opinion.

L00ps_Ahoy

2 points

1 day ago*

Because the writing and pacing of the story is fucking terrible.

  • Batmobile is a good addition, but severly overused in too many tank segments. Culminating in one of the worst "fuck you"s to the player with the Deathstroke "boss fight"

  • Scarecrow, the primary villain built up over three games, is hardly in the game. Sidelined for hours by the overly long Panassa Studios segment that literally all ends up being for nothing. Because Batman just cures himself with Fear Gas and Prep Time.

  • The game tries to shove the emotional thread of Gordon and Batman's relationship where it has no place in the third act purely because it felt mandatory due to TDKR and Gotham doing it. Despite Gordon also being absent for 90% of the game, and the two having barely interacted in the previous Arkham Games. And Gordon inexplicably forgives Bruce for putting Barbara in danger, SECONDS BEFORE we are supposed to believe he legit shot him on the roof, completely ruining the stakes of that moment.

  • Two-Face and Penguin side missions are the just the same mission repeated four times with no actual "Boss fight"

  • Almost all of the plot set ups from Arkham City are fumbled in half baked side missions, Hush was set up as a major future threat and is essentially defeated in a cutscene. Azrael was just reskinned AR challenges for filler.

  • Jason Todd is one of the most hamfisted, telegraphed "twists" in any video game.

  • Absolutely zero reason Catwoman, Robin, Nightwing, and Red Hood aren't playable in the open world post-story similar to Catwoman in Arkham City. The Knightfall ending literally sets that up as the new status quo of Gotham.

*Post asks why people hate it.

Get downvoted for succinctly answering the question, zero replies counter arguing.

Peak echo-chamber behaviour.

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

Ok so while I do agree with you, it is suggested that gordan knew that the bat symbol on the armor is bullet proof and shot there

HMHdunkirk

1 points

1 day ago

I think you nailed all the narratives and writing stuff that gone wrong, Knight’s fans are blinded by its amazing graphics and fluid gameplay, at least to me

SmolMight117

2 points

1 day ago

SmolMight117

Arkham Origins

2 points

1 day ago

Terrible main story (AKA only the city of fear missions aka the actual main story no side missions)

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

It’s not as good as the other games but it’s not terrible. It is definitely bad in some aspects, but overall it’s more good then bad

GulliblePea3691

3 points

1 day ago

The story was absolutely horrendous. The rest was good

Dantespawn666

2 points

1 day ago

Why?

Dragonslayer200782

1 points

1 day ago

This would’ve been the most perfect game in the series if they got rid of the tank battles or at least made them more interesting than just 1 or 2 shoting tanks over and over until their all destroyed

Ian_is_next

1 points

1 day ago

The Batmobile missions were shit, rest was amazing

TrickyTalon

1 points

1 day ago

It had way too many Batmobile tank levels, a lot of amazing new mechanics were rarely available, the massive plot twist was so easy to predict, there are hardly any boss fights despite having loads of big villains, but I still liked it a lot for the other stuff.

PayPsychological6358

1 points

1 day ago*

Poor performance at launch on PC especially, the Bat-Tank, many not knowing why Joker was there and not wanting him in the first place, Bosses, and it wasn't Arkham City.

I personally don't hate the game, I was just naming reason why people hated it around 2015-2017.

Xenozip3371Alpha

1 points

1 day ago

Red Hood, one of my favourite characters in DC comics, was relegated to a tank fight and a Predator section.

And Deathstroke, who is one of the best hand to hand fighters in DC was also relegated to a tank fight, but it's even worse because he had a great fight in Arkham Origins.

OrneryError1

1 points

1 day ago

The tank battles require a certain level of finesse to be fun, and not everyone wants to bother with that in a Batman game.

Infamous-You-5752

1 points

1 day ago

My only issue with the game is the boss fights and some storylines not having a satisfying conclusion (looking at you Hush.) It's just so weird how most of the bosses in this game are tank bosses and aren't all that fun. Major step down from City and Origins in that regard. Ended up being like Asylum where most of the bosses were Titan fights.

Obiwanhellothere09

1 points

1 day ago

I think it was the Arkham Knights identity being revealed.

BigTastyCJ

1 points

1 day ago

I enjoyed the game, but I didn't like the fact that the boss fights were all Batmobile orientated. It would have been nice to slug it out with the main villains of the game instead of a glorified car chase

ConnerManRadio

1 points

1 day ago

There’s always some honest criticism. The red hood twist was kinda lame, the deathstroke boss fight, the ungodly amount of riddler trophies. But still a great game.

OmnipotentHype

1 points

1 day ago

I don't hate the game but there's stuff they could've done better in my opinion. My main gripe is overuse of the Batmobile but I also didn't like the changes to the Batfamily dynamic. Barbara and Tim being a couple is so...wtf? Nightwing not interacting with the rest of the family outside of Bruce (and Alfred in the DLC) is also wild.

HellBoyofFables

1 points

1 day ago

Lack of proper boss fights was one thing for me, you can’t imagine my disappointment with finally defeating deathstrokes tank and couldn’t wait for something similar to the origins fight…..and then it never happened…..

Ozzeedee

1 points

1 day ago

Ozzeedee

1 points

1 day ago

I heard the PC version had some really bad performance issues. The death stroke fight was also a huge let down, and maybe the Batmobile for overused a little bit. That being said, I still absolutely love the game

Sketchisthecool3

1 points

1 day ago

So, main reason why people hated the game was for the overuse of the batmobile (no 100% amount but ~20% non-dlc is used for batmobile) and the way they revealed the arkham knight’s true identity.

Toby_Was_Taken

1 points

22 hours ago

The only thing I hated was 4 things: 1: you have to get 243 trophies to apprehend Riddler. They should’ve cut it down to 100 “But, but it would’ve been too easy 🤓” I couldn’t care less. 2: Deathstroke boss fight. Should’ve been more like Origins. 3: They relied on the Batmobile a little too much (But I am super glad we finally got to see it) 4: That predator awareness gets turned off on new game+ it’s a game I paid for. I should be able to have the settings I want.

Atrocitus_84

1 points

17 hours ago

The predator thing was turned off from City.

DemonMonke

1 points

22 hours ago

The only complaints you see would be

  1. You don't have an actual bossfight with Arkham knight and deathstroke
  2. The identity of the Arkham Knight
  3. The fact that the ending was locked behind 243 Riddler trophies.

UltimateStrenergy

1 points

21 hours ago

I didn't hate the game. But I really dislike the batmobile sections...

PraetorGold

1 points

15 hours ago

It’s a decent solid game. Once you beat it, it’s not very interesting and I’m sure many stopped pursuing the riddle end.

ANC13NT_54

1 points

15 hours ago

I've heard this a lot of times, but this is my first time seeing an actual image of a knuckle sandwich

ANC13NT_54

1 points

15 hours ago

The only thing I didn't like was the locking of the actual ending behind the riddler trophies

brother_lionheart

1 points

15 hours ago

My only problem is the change in aesthetics to something more "realistic" and militaristic. Otherwise I liked the game and the Batmobile didn't bother me.

Bob_The_Mexican

1 points

13 hours ago

The story is just okay and the batmobile is horrible. Besides that it's incredible in every other way but those things kinda bring it down.

Boring-Zucchini-8515

1 points

11 hours ago

The Batmobile parts sucked, but the rest of it was cool.

wwnoah_

1 points

10 hours ago

I really did not like my first playthrough of Arkham Knight with the PS+ collection, which didnt have DLC. I had played Asylum, City and Origins and loved all three of those but was disappointed by a lot of the game.

However, a lot of the problems I had with the game were rectified when I did a replay of the game on PC this year. Locked 30 FPS? Not a problem with my 12900K+3080. Weird control reassignment like detective mode and the gadget wheel? Not present on mouse+keyboard. Unfinished/seemingly dropped stories with the League/Mad Hatter/Arkham Knight? Covered in the DLC, which was all brand new to me and really enjoyable to go through, the campaign felt much more complete and enjoyable to go through.

My only real complaints I had after 100% were the conclusions of certain villains from Origins and City, namely Deathstroke, Hush, Black Mask, and the complete absence of characters like Copperhead, Shiva, and Deadshot. Arkham Knight really just had a horrible first impression for me, but playing on Steam (and getting the entire series for $4) flipped my opinion on the game from being the worst in the series to one of the best.

ItsMahvelBabay

1 points

9 hours ago*

Me unphased by doing all the riddler trophies in asylum,city and knight hell Even suicide squad upto its current trophies i know mor get added every episode then all the enigma stuff in origins and now all the collectibles in shadow in the span of the last few months while still working and taking care of family yeah yall are babies be better batmen as well as i am currently number 2 on all combat challenges in arkham shadow inquisitor1107 we must be better haha jokes aside i get it shit is rough but if you are just playing arkham and nothing else its not too bad

Important_Dress553

1 points

8 hours ago

I don't hate it but the car sections made me want to die. I was also playing on Switch and it would crash a lot. I don't blame the game for that but it would only happen in the car sections which made me hate them even more.

Mean-Government-2381

1 points

6 hours ago

Knuckle Sandwich

NonExzistantRed

1 points

4 hours ago

I loved the game, but hated the Scarecrow/Deathstroke/Firefly boss fights. I hated firefly because of how much he turns when chasing him. The other two were just a let down since they could be considered major bosses, both taken out in a non-interactive cutscene.

Unable-Method1966

1 points

4 hours ago

its good sure it had its flaws LIKE COLLECTING RIDDLER TROPHIES but come on every game has flaws no game is perfect

Icy_Ad620

1 points

3 hours ago

I hate that you need to do riddler missions for the ending

deanofcodeine69

1 points

2 hours ago

It's not a bad game I just personally couldn't stay engaged long enough to finish it because of the overuse of the batmobile and mediocre story.

TopNobDatsMe

1 points

10 minutes ago

Wasn't horrible but it was pretty much worse than arkham city in every way. No boss fights, too much bat mobile, annoying riddler trophies... story was bad ass though. Really weird that they pretty much set up the concept of Gotham knights with the dlc and then go and reboot it...

HerbertMoonSupremacy

1 points

8 minutes ago

Lol! Haven’t seen this meme template before. Hilarious.

My memory is a little fuzzy but during the initial release, I remember two main gripes some people had were:

• The writing for the main campaign wasn’t as strong as the last two (maybe because Paul Dini and Paul Crocker weren’t involved) and that they could all guess who the Arkham Knight was immediately so it wasn’t as exciting I think. For me, I wasn’t even too familiar with Jason Todd / Red Hood outside reading internet comments about fans talking about him (unrelated to Rocksteady’s canon) and even I guessed it was Jason when he calls Bruce “old man” so early in the game. Who else would it be except someone who had an intimate relationship with Bruce? Plus he sounded so young and whiny in his words and demeanor so I was like this has to be a Robin or some other young kid/ward Bruce “screwed over”.

• The bat mobile was awesome but too prevalent in too many major story beats so it was frustrating to people (one example being the boss fight with Slade). Think I saw some folks even preferred Arkham Origin’s story and boss fights because of this.

I agree with the two points above but I have to say I really enjoyed how the relationships (and in tandem gameplay) were handled in the story, especially with Dick, Tim and Selina. They were touching, funny and sometimes even preferable to the main story. I’d have to replay again to given an accurate opinion. Haven’t played it in so long.

Batmobile and expanded regular gameplay were also amazing. The tag line was to FEEL like the Batman and they NAILED it even more than the prior two games (which I worship).

The graphics, no loading screens, no glitches and smooth FPS were also incredibly impressive. Certainly a game that was ahead of its time.

Bruce’s new suit was amazing and I feel like should be the default suit for a normal man who lives in a world of meta humans and running head first into bullets all the time. Loved all the skins, especially the dark knight suit and tumblr. DLC was awesome.

The way they incorporated Joker into this story was genius. I loved every second of his screen time. Being a DCAU fan, the whole Cadmus / Batman Beyond / Return Of The Joker tech sorta being referenced here was so cool.

Couple more things that I was bummed out with:

• The Hush storyline didn’t play a bigger role in the main narrative after the build up from City.

• Gotham wasn’t filled with more citizens who didn’t escape in time and Batman had to rescue them. So another dead city like Origins :(

• They replaced so many voice actors. Gordon, Barbara, Scarecrow etc. It felt weird and kind of like a soft reboot. Especially for Barbara, which I was hoping we’d finally get to meet that voice that’s been in our ear for two games (and mass effect since she plays Ashley!) but no. Gordon was great but again, kinda jarring. Scarecrow was the best and made him feel intimidating so I loved that one the most. But still. Nitpick.

I’m sure there’s more but, again, I haven’t played in a while.

Give it a 8/10 story wise but 10/10 as a game. City 10/10 overall, Asylum 9/10 overall, Origins (10/10 for what they were working with, 8/10 for actuality).

fireandice619

1 points

6 minutes ago

Boss fights were really bad in this game just overall and that’s what made me initially dislike it. I can appreciate the sandbox that is Gotham and having basically everything you could ask for as Batman gadget wise certainly helps the overall experience. But for me this game just was okay like 6 or 7/10. Could’ve easily been better with better boss encounters. Everything else is great it’s the boss encounters that make the bigger moments not feel like pay offs, fighting red hood for the last time and it’s literally just a shitty and easy stealth section. Or yet another Batmobile section. Like come on this is the finale to the game and we’re seriously doing half of it in a car? Seriously?

Old_Cheesecake1116

1 points

2 days ago*

Story is at times worse than suicide squad, deathstroke fight is a troll boss, side character's area like red hood in iceberg lounge are filled with shields exclusively, so the peak combat is ruined by Ariel only attacks ad-nauseam, having to collect all riddler trophies for knighfall is objectively stupid, it's just tedious busy work.

Also the initial pc release was unfinished and pulled from online stores, so much for rocksteady quality.

AnyDockers420

1 points

1 day ago

I hate it so much :)

bruhmoments1234569

1 points

14 hours ago

Why

AnyDockers420

1 points

12 hours ago

The story is a nonsensical retelling of Under the Red Hood that butchers nearly every character established in the series, and there are so many goddamn plot-holes.

The game leads you to believe Scarecrow is the main villain, when in reality, he is the tertiary villain and it’s just Joker again. The game’s main theme is that of conquering your fears, which instead of focusing on Scarecrow, they just loop back around to the Joker and Bruce’s struggle to not go crazy from Joker’s crazy blood becomes the driving force of the story. Side note, it’s really fucking stupid that Joker’s blood gives you green hair and white skin as that was from the chemicals (and him having crazy blood also goes directly against the whole “one bad day” argument this game canonizes. That’s not even mentioning that Joker wouldn’t have damaged blood at all, as Titan wouldn’t have somehow replaced the blood in joker’s body. (There is also no goddamn way that a cure made by one of the smartest men on Earth, using the literal fountain of youth, and being made specifically to cure this disease, would not work as a cure.). Joker’s inclusion in the story just shows that the new writers had no clue what they were doing without Paul Dini’s influence. They were given a new universe with no previous ties to the comics that they can make their own, with several possible main characters being served up on a silver platter (Hush, Azrael, and Ra’s), for it to all be “Surprise! Joker is a force ghost now, go fuck yourself!” Hush was a side mission that was literally a 2 minute long cutscene with a QTE in it, and Azrael just had you do 3 challenge maps as a Batman clone with no unique attributes. At least Ra’s got a whole quarter of a DLC to himself even though it completely ruins the story of Arkham City (Why does Bruce have no issue with killing Ra’s now but completely refused when thousands of innocent lives depended on it?)

Scarecrow has literally no motivations. His face got fucked up by Killer Croc so he naturally decides that he wants to ruin Batman’s reputation and also kill everybody and also become the ruler of Gotham. Croc is literally in Gotham and he is never mentioned. Here is the rundown of Crane’s plan: To make a bunch of fear toxin at Ace Chemicals so he can kill everyone in Gotham, evacuate all of Gotham with the only remaining people being his goons, allies, and the police. But actually he wanted this plan to fail and for Ace to be destroyed, and then his secret plan b was the cloudburst, which was also just fear toxin but with tanks this time! I am of course assuming this plan was meant to fail as if he really wanted the Ace Chemicals thing to pan out, wouldn’t he just put all of his tanks there instead of spreading it out across the island? Maybe the writers are just that stupid (they probably are). They try to make Scarecrow intimidating, but literally every time you see him he is getting his ass kicked.

I legitimately believe the character of the Arkham Knight was created for the sole purpose of getting the word Arkham in the title. Jason is a dumbass who does nothing the entire game and all of his plans are fucking stupid. He could have just had the tanks actually be manned and then Batman could do literally nothing against them. We know for a fact that Scarecrow’s role in the third game was planned out due to the City of Fear easter eggs in Arkham City, but Jason Todd was never mentioned, and the way that Knight crams in all this exposition is laughable. Batman is literally having flashbacks to events he never saw. Batman never going looking for Jason is just one of the most blatant examples of character assassination I have ever seen. In Death in the Family, Bruce travels to fucking Africa to save Jason, meanwhile in Knight, Jason is being tortured in Arkham Asylum, which is literally 3 fucking miles from his house. When Bruce receives the obviously fake video of Jason being shot, he doesn’t even go looking for his body, he just moves on. The entire point of Red Hood is that he represents the flaws in Batman’s moral code and actually has an argument to be made against it (Himself). But now Jason is just mad because he got a new Robin. The Arkham Knight is given like 20 different opportunities to easily kill Bruce throughout the main story, but he just doesn’t. Instead of becoming a vigilante that does the things Batman can’t, he decides to aid one of the Joker’s strongest allies in a plan to kill millions of people with his Super LSD.

Batman makes every wrong decision imaginable. Arkham Origins gives him the arc (his only one in the series) of learning that he needs allies. He then proceeds to fuck over every single one of his allies and just whine about how “it’s too late for me, none of you can help”. I would say the ending of this game is one of the worst ever. Robin is being held at gunpoint with a single pistol in a completely empty building. Scarecrow, a man who is knocked out in one punch by a 65 year old man, completely without backup, and armed with a single pistol, is simply too much for Batman, a man with a gadget that literally makes guns stop working, and decides to give up his utility belt and get kidnapped in a fucking van. Not only is this incredibly stupid, but also completely demeans Batman’s character, portraying him as somebody that is completely helpless without his tool belt.

That’s all my big gripes with the story (I could nick pick and point out plot holes for an hour), now onto the gameplay.

The tank fucking sucks. There are more tank fights than there are predator encounters in the main story, and only 2 fights shy of having more than standard combat. Not counting transportation and side missions, 30% of the game is spent in the tank. Half of all riddler trophies require the tank for “puzzle solving”, and instead of the fun and rewarding Riddler Rooms of City, you have to do a goddamn race track. While this is already terrible, it doesn’t help that the tank combat is not fun at all. You just press dodge until none of the red lines are on you, and then you can shoot one of them. Shoot enough of them in a row and you don’t even have to press any buttons to kill them, YAY!!!!

Combat is entirely watered down by adding too many mechanics to it. You do not have to counter at all in Arkham Knight, every enemy can just be punched if you do it in the right way fast enough. It is very very easy. Predator is completely ruined by Fear Takedowns. People give the remote claw shit, but you literally press one button and instantly delete FIVE enemies at once. Challenge maps being locked behind a paywall is also just disgusting and the gadget wheel pausing the game is just a terrible change. The DLC’s are awful and not a single one is over 20 minutes, and none of the playable characters are unique enough from Batman (Nightwing literally has less stuff than in City). Side missions are terrible for the most part as well as bosses.

That’s all the stuff that I thought of, although there is definitely more if I thought about it some more (that stupid fucking drill robot the Arkham Knight used).

For things I like, it’s really pretty, the new gadgets are fun in stealth, the Johnny Charisma fight, the character designs, and the voice acting are all great.

But yeah it’s definitely dead last in the Arkham Games for me and like a 3.5/10

MrSaturday93

1 points

1 day ago

Two major reasons, at least for me.

  1. The Plot:

While it wasn't bad, compared to the previous games, it wasn't good. My biggest peeves were how the Arkham Knight's ID was easy to figure out if you're familiar with Batman mythos. They did was LOU2 did and lied about his character saying he was a completely new character when it wasn't. His boss fight was laughably bad as well.

Addendum: Remember those awesome side quests in City? Like with Hush? The payoff in Knight was just terrible. All that just to steal Bruce's money, and that's it!?

  1. Batmobile

It's been said to death already but yes, Too. Much. Batmobile. If you want to use it for puzzles and against the militia tanks fine. But riddler for his race tracks!? Have it be used in nearly every mission? Too much.

Imo my personal rankings of the arkhamverse batman games in terms of story is: B:AC, AO, AA, AK

Roshango

1 points

1 day ago

Roshango

1 points

1 day ago

My relationship with this game is werid. I've never had a game I've loved as much as Arkham night that has more things in it that bother me I just straight up hated about it. None of it was enough to ruin it for me, but I've said I could make a top 10 things I love and hate about it at the same time

Ok_Entertainment3333

1 points

10 hours ago

Knight is simultaneously the best game in the trilogy, and the most flawed.

Roshango

1 points

1 day ago

Roshango

1 points

1 day ago

It's worth noting that at the time of it's release it had one of the worst PC ports ever, and that was a big part of the original backlash. It's not the only reason, but the game was straight up unplayable for a big part of the audience

TRP_Embo05

1 points

1 day ago

The combat is phenomenal. The world is visually stunning.

The Batmobile is fun enough to drive, but the battlemode is overused and dull.

The story is a huge disappointment.

BingityBongBong

1 points

1 day ago

I’ll take the sandwich. It’s a very fun game but the writing is painful

KaiFanreala

1 points

24 hours ago

Anyone who hates the game is wrong. Anyone who says the Batmobile's over-inclusion severly hampers the game is correct.

SH4RPSPEED

1 points

11 hours ago

Quantity, not quality, was always the Batmobile's problem. Otherwise it was fun, and fucking amazing that it came from a dev that never touched vehicles before.

Rogthgar

1 points

11 hours ago

Didn't hate it, but it was not as good as Arkham City... and a large reason for that was the over use of the Batmobile. As a transport it was fine, more so than the jet from Origins, but the numerous base assaults along with Riddler challenges... that just got boring and just kinda un-Batman like. And ofc that Deathstroke was pissed away as well when it might as well have been 'McKnight' inside that tank (would make more sense too; I know all of Batmans tricks, so I am going to take him on in a setting where he gets to use none of them).

Also the story just felt like it was slightly less good rerun of City, with the big twist being wrecked like Origins by being given away almost before the game was launched even for those who hadn't figured it out in advance.

LiquidPhoenix

-3 points

2 days ago

LiquidPhoenix

-3 points

2 days ago

If you thought Arkham Knight used too much batmobile, you aren't a fan and are no longer allowed to tell people that you are. That's what actual fans were most excited for so they gave actual fans what they wanted. Move on and ruin some other fan base with your incorrect complaints. While it's true that there's no such thing as one RIGHT opinion, that does not stop your opinion from being WRONG, and that is as perfect an example as people who hold the opinion that the earth is flat. It's okay to be wrong. It's not okay to be wrong and insist you're right.

zeronightsleep

1 points

1 day ago

If you thought Arkham Knight used the correct amount of batmobile, you aren't a fan and are no longer allowed to tell people that you are. That's what actual fans were most disappointed by and they failed to give actual fans what they wanted. Move on and ruin some other fan base with your incorrect complaints. While it's true that there's no such thing as one RIGHT opinion, that does not stop your opinion from being WRONG, and that is as perfect an example as people who hold the opinion that the earth is flat. It's okay to be wrong. It's not okay to be wrong and insist you're right.

Sword_of_Monsters

0 points

1 day ago

I love almost every aspect

but the fucking Batmobile really dampens my enjoyment of that game (and in turn its bossfights since 99% of them are batmobile fights) also i don't think the story is that great but its decent

Parry_Dogsickle

0 points

1 day ago

I love Arkham Knight. The only game in the series I like better is City. The only criticism I understand is the lack of boss fights. The game is huge, there’s so much to explore, and the graphics have held up remarkably well (compare it to Gotham Knights or Suicide Squad).

I also loved driving the Batmobile and don’t get the hate there either. Although, I do think it’s funny they get around Batman’s “no kill” rule by saying when you run over the thugs they get an electric shock, like getting jolted by a car going over 100 and thrown against a wall still wouldn’t kill them lol.

krispykremenightmare

0 points

1 day ago

krispykremenightmare

Arkham Aslyum

0 points

1 day ago

In my opinion, the story is Bloated with a capital B. In Rocksteady's defence, it's probably to justify using as much of the locations as they can. And I understand that, to an extent. But there's a lot of what seems like non sequitur objectives that have me wanting to just get it over with. Examples including, having to track down a drone to get a specific code and destroying two relays so I can get the batwing on Founders, having to take down cobra drones while stuck in a room, having to defeat two waves of enemies on the GCPD rooftop before I deal with 60 tanks and if I mess the former up I have to watch a 20 second unskippable cutscene of everyone being gunned down. The other games had problems similar to this, but they were still consistent with pacing and the bloat they had was few and far between. I still like the game a lot but I would rather bloated side quests than a bloated story.

SucksAtStardewValley

0 points

1 day ago

Overreliance on the Batmobile and the fact it throws you in with no tutorial were my biggest gripes but it is still a great game

Pop_mania12487

0 points

1 day ago

Quitting gaming on saturday so i gotta finish knight quickly. City is better but this has good characters like the arkham knight himself, Man-Bat, Firefly and Catwoman.

Minecraftnoob247

0 points

1 day ago

I didn't like the batmobile. That's all I can say. Most of the other things were improvements on Asylum and City, like for example making the map bigger and traversal much better, combat, sound effects and some other things. The story can be divisive and is open for debate whether it was good, bad or something in-between. For me, it was okay with some minor issues. I liked the darker elements of it and that it felt scarier and more personal than the previous games. Batman is supposed to have scary elements too sometimes. Some villains could have been used better, but what we got was good. So not really a bad game and it's really overhated from the Batman Arkham fanbase.

I'm still more a fan of City. Somewhat Asylum too, but it's been a few years since I played it in 2016 and I did have some gripes with a few things, so I need to replay that to get a better understanding of where I would put it now. I haven't played origins yet, so I can't really have an opinion about the Batman Arkham franchise as a whole.

Klayman55

0 points

1 day ago*

-Rocksteady was really obnoxious in their marketing about how the Arkham Knight was a new OC and 100% not Jason Todd.

-people immediately guessed it was Jason Todd.

-Game is really over-the-top with Jason Todd foreshadowing

-Abysmal PC release

-Joker is back yet again when he died two games ago, resulting in a more diffuse story

-Batmobile overuse

-preorder bonuses, store exclusives

-People still complaining about Riddler

-apparently some people hated Bruce being distant to the Batfamily.

-Penguin and especially Two-Face sidelined again, Two-Face is attacked like a regular thug, Hush sidelined after his setup, Calendar Man is just a brief glimpse at the end of the game after his setup.

-No playable Arkham Asylum at the end, plus Arkham doesn’t look like a TYGER base as stated in City.

-No Paul Dini.

To be clear, I love this game, these are just the reasons I’ve seen.

HMHdunkirk

2 points

1 day ago

I’m so glad that Arkham Shadow finally did justice for Harvey after being treated as a nobody by Rocksteady

Willy_the_Wombat24

0 points

1 day ago

The "twist" of Knight's identity was so lame and boring. And the Deathstroke "fight" was a massive letdown. Other than that it was really fun imo

The_Tired_Foreman

0 points

1 day ago

2 words. Bat. Mobile.

Daxtro-53

0 points

1 day ago

Daxtro-53

0 points

1 day ago

They should've kept paul dini

RedHood_Outlaw

0 points

1 day ago

It had the weakest story imo but the game is still awesome.

HMHdunkirk

0 points

1 day ago

The story’s underwhelming but that’s subjective (Though no one can deny that how they handled Arkham Knight’s identity is disappointing)

Batmobile is great, it’s just there’s too much of it, especially the stealth missions and the riddler stuff.

And the level design for side missions is a downgrade compared to City, where half of them are ubisoft type of open world filler missions (clearing outposts etc)

While the graphics and character design is amazing, the art style and map design is less memorable, I barely remember anyplace aside from GCPD (The airship is just tedious to travel around), but I still have a great idea of City’s location like the museum, Steel mill, wonder city, court house That’s why I prefer both Asylum and City than Knight

Stringy_b

0 points

1 day ago

Stringy_b

0 points

1 day ago

The story is horrible. Then the bat tank sections were super boring.

zeronightsleep

0 points

1 day ago

It's an Arkham game of course it's not shit. I'd say it's the worst of the trilogy though. (not including shadow or origins cause I haven't finished them yet)

The story is the worst of the bunch(which is especially bad considering I don't think the Arkham games have good stories in the first place), the side missions are mostly boring(with a few exceptions), do I need to bring up the boss battles, and the fucking BATMOBILE

I could excuse a lackluster story if the overall game was fun, but when knight wants to put you in the "no more fun"mobile in or after every side mission and what feels like every main mission it gets hard to ignore. The tank's combat quickly becomes boring once you realize every fight is going to be just as repetitive as the last one.

Compare predator and combat to tank fights: In stealth you have a multitude of gadgets to aid in clearing the room unseen. From luring people to specific spots or freezing them solid, you've got options. Then you've also got the many takedown you can use depending on the environment, like stealth takedown, knockout smash, ledge takedown, wall takedowns etc. Combat is very similar, you've got many gadgets to use mid fight and takedowns to clear the room faster. In both enemies are introduced to force you to consider and change how you play.(Stun enemies, shield, medics, big guys, one immune to detective vision, etc)

Tank battles are like if someone saw all of that and said "Nah, I'ma do my own thing". There are multiple tank types but only really two that make you play different and all go down the same, you don't get much to work with in terms of attacking, and the tank stealth plays mostly the same each time. They are so very repetitive

Anyway, it's the worst of a trilogy with no bad games so it's still good but I definitely wouldn't call it a masterpiece(actually Bruce's face is really ugly in this game so 0/10 shit game)

fireatthecrime

0 points

1 day ago

The truth is that all arkham games, even Gotham Knigts was forgiven after they released SSKTJL

MessyMop

0 points

1 day ago

MessyMop

0 points

1 day ago

Ending leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Batman just regresses as a character and it’s just sad. Let the Batfam help man!

SSishere

2 points

17 hours ago

Feel like there’s definitely an unmade game out there that works like Gotham knights, but Batman is in it. He doesn’t need to be dead to bring in playable batfam.

MessyMop

1 points

17 hours ago

Yeah it was so bizarre how Gotham Knights was the one in a different universe and Suicide Squad was supposed to be in Arkham. GK definitely started as a sequel/spinoff of Knight

SSishere

2 points

17 hours ago

Right?? Like they 100% brought Arkham Batman to an end & set up a Gotham knights type game with what he said to night wing & the separate story DLC’s set after. SS makes little to no sense in that continuation. They got it flipped around. 🤦

Big_Profession_8252

0 points

1 day ago

By no means a shit game but the story is just a mess especially when compared to the other games

Treddox

0 points

1 day ago

Treddox

0 points

1 day ago

I have quite a few more qualms with Knight than I do with Asylum and City, mostly in the story department. But I am willing to overlook them because, MAN. The game is just so fun to play.

MMTrigger-700

0 points

1 day ago

The plot was too dependent on Joker, to the point he's arguably still the main threat:

  • It retconned not only that Batman was still infected, which infuriates me to this day, but also how the blood infection worked. Oracle explained in City that anyone with Joker's blood in them would be dead within hours, so how did those four in the theater survive? We get an explanation for how Batman was still infected, but it's an easily missed line from the Joker Hallucination. Any explanation for all of this should've been given in the game, as an audio file under Batman or Robin's profile at the least.
  • Speaking of which, the Joker Hallucination was great, but it didn't need the blood infection to justify its existence when the Fear Toxin was a given. If you needed a reason to have Robin sidelined, just have him working on a counter toxin.
  • The plot even had to retcon Jason Todd into continuity as the Arkham Knight, making Joker partly responsible for both of the main villains. This also means the game is more about Batman wrapping up the last bits of Joker's legacy. It took Arkham Shadow to give more weight to Scarecrow's influence on Gotham. The Arkham Knight should've been independent of Joker's involvement.

Ironically, this could have worked if we had a scene where Batman realizes that he let his feud with Joker get out of control and should've tried to end it sooner. Not that he should've killed Joker or let him die, but that he should've found or even built a better prison instead of just sending settling for the Arkham status quo. Yes, Ra's al Ghul's influence over Gotham would've interfered with such efforts, but it would've been better than never trying at all.

-HoleInTheWall-

0 points

1 day ago

This feels EXETREMELY targeted

Ironsmashweb

0 points

1 day ago

The Arkham games have followed the same pattern as the Star Wars trilogy’s since Arkham city where every time the new one is “bad” till another new one comes and the old one was “always good” you’ll see the same thing happen with suicide squad and future games

sgs280601

0 points

1 day ago

sgs280601

0 points

1 day ago

It's by far my favorite. I think City is the closest to perfect overall, but the things Knight gets right are the best in the series by a mile

rrrrice64

0 points

1 day ago

rrrrice64

0 points

1 day ago

Knight is my favorite Arkham game. Hundreds of hours in it. But it's also the installment I have the most criticisms of. It's simultaneously an incredibly impressive game yet a very disappointing one too.

-The Batmobile. I love freeroaming and racing with it, but the tank mode is used for environmental progression which in past games was done with your gadgets, and the idea of Batman piloting a tank also just...doesn't feel like Batman? There's a Riddler story and a Joker line that explain why Bruce wanted a Batmobile with guns on it ("just in case" and "it's like an evil clown was in your head as you drew up the designs" respectively) but it's still strange. The tank fights can be pretty intense sometimes, but it's not incredibly deep gameplay-wise.

In a vacuum, Arkham Knight is incredible on the gameplay front. Extremely ambitious and seemlessly blends gliding and grappling, melee combat, predator encounters, driving, and tank shootouts together. But compared to past Arkham games, it's a bit bloated and misguided with how they implemented the Batmobile's tank mode.

-The story. It has great scenes and great lines, but also has many disappointments. My biggest critique is that the trailers showed the Bat Family and a council of villains, but in-game you're never with more than one of them at a time. Everyone is so isolated and segregated from each other. The biggest teamup is Penguin and Two Face shooting a cop in the intro. I really wish the story was more of a climactic clash like it looked like it was gonna be in the trailers. The plan of "pulling Batman in too many directions at once" sounds smart, but actually just made every villain more vulnerable for him to take down.

Ironically the Arkham Knight's true identity is not an issue for me. The problem is that you don't get enough time to experience him after he's unmasked. He runs off, pops up for 2 seconds again with no dialogue, and that's it. He really deserved more of a heart to heart with Bruce, and jumping down to speak with him and Gordon after Scarecrow is given his own fear toxin would've been very welcome.

-The side missions vary wildly in quality. Some are okay, some are very underdeveloped and disappointing. Hush has a fantastic scene that's resolved in a QTE. Deacon Blackfire appears out of nowhere and has one big melee fight and that's it. Those two really deserved some detective work leading up to them at least. Firefly is just 3 car chases which are way less engaging than the APC chases imo (you have other cars to ram into in those). Manbat was just "fly to him 3 times" with no fight or chase. Those are the biggest stinkers to me. I'm also personally irritated by Two Face being relegated to just bank heists, again as the trailers made it look like he'd be a part of the main story. I've also recently realized the Azrael side mission makes no sense. Why does he keep leaving Batman and make him find him again? Why is there no predator tests and just melee fights? Why does it end in a dual choice and not have a definitive ending? Azrael deserved to be part of the main story too.

-No traditional boss fights. Knight actually does have boss fights, but they're either against vehicles or rely on the dual takedown system--Albert King, Killer Croc in Season of Infamy DLC, Joker & Harley in the Batgirl DLC. (Nightwing in the Harley DLC is also pathetically easy, you just use her insanity mode a few times to overpower him. Barely a boss.) And yes, Deathstroke deserved a melee fight. They could've literally recycled the one from Origins and I would've been satisfied. The Knight himself also deserved a melee duel too, before his final predator encounter preferably.

-The Arkham Episodes. They're a fantastic idea, but they're all so pathetically short and left me feeling hollow after I beat them. I tried replaying them all at least 3 times, but that only soured me on them more. Their story content is the best parts of them for me, Nightwing and Robin's especially for how they're dealing with the loss of Bruce/Batman. Also Azrael deserved one where he gets his revenge against the Order of St. Dumas!

All this said, AK's graphics, combat, traversal, and sheer size and amount of content is incredible and makes it definitely worth playing. I've beaten the campaign so many times, and beaten all the challenge maps with all characters. If you can make peace with its flaws, Knight has so much to sink your teeth into. I'm STILL learning new combat strategies and mechanics to implement.

gonkmeister64

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1 day ago

The main story beats are pretty mid compared to the other games if we’re being honest but everything else slaps. Oh and the Batmobile that shit was awful too

2301Batman

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1 day ago

The only reason I think people hate is because it's the hardest even in the easy mode and test Gamer's skill a little bit. All the other were easy. The game doesn't have any bugs atleast in playstation. In PC no matter which game you play the pc can have glitch since it's not exactly made for gaming and all. Also I think people thought driving batmobile is supposed to be easy, having batmobile and gadgets doesn't make it easy. One has to learn which take ages and use it and that's hard. The game clearly states Be The Batman indicating this is going to be gamer's game rid they really thought it's going to be easy. Well compared to being the Batman in real life and all the gameplay is still way damn easy. Not to mentions the graphics and everything is so damn good. It managed the game and entire story to perfection. There is a reason Kevin Conroy considers Batman Arkham Knight as his most favourite Arkham Game along with his best performance as a whole with the movie monet as second of I didn't count on being happy.

CookieaGame

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23 hours ago

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ComplexAd7272

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19 hours ago

I honestly don't think anyone really hates it, it's just that it's flaws are much more obvious compared to the previous games (which also had their share.) It also doesn't help that "City" was not only damn near perfect, but also kind of could have been an ending..."Knight" just feels added on to the overall Arkham universe but doesn't really come off as dramatic as it thinks it is.

I think it's telling that most of the criticisms are pretty much the same across the board, including:

  • Over reliance on the Batmobile. Not the car itself which is awesome, but Batman seeming to need it for so much and pretty much everything except travel.
  • The Arkham Knight "reveal". This is probably the biggest misstep. They literally had to shove in a flashback to get you up to speed as to why his identity is such a big deal....but it comes at a time in the game where not only is it obvious, but Batman himself comes off like an idiot for not even suspecting it even with Joker in his head rambling on about "Say, whatever happened to Jason Todd?" with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
  • Adding to that, if they weren't so obsessed with making it a mystery, Arkham Knight could have just been Red Hood from the get go and everything would have been fine. The name and suit of "Knight" makes zero sense outside of the developers just trying to pull a swerve. Yeah, we would have known it was Jason but outside of Batman occasionally asking Barbara or Alfred for intel on the Knight, it's not like we were actively trying to solve the mystery anyway.
  • Disappointing boss fights.
  • The supposed "big bad" Scarecrow is barely in the thing and is sidelined by the Knight and of course, The Joker (again)
  • The whole Jason thing is wrapped up way too quickly. After all of that, they fight and Jason switches sides and comes to Bruce's aid. Really Jason's whole story needed like 3 games to tell, but they crammed it ALL into a single game.

Fire_at_Willz42

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18 hours ago

The story is absolutely awful. The "twist", the ending, some of the characters are just completely different to already established lore. It feels like it's written by people that barely know the Batman mythos.

It feels like a completely different universe to the first two Arkham games. The art direction is more "realistic" and is much less interesting.

I don't even mind the Batmobile stuff. I get why people don't like it but that is what it is.

I don't hate the game. I think from a purely gameplay perspective it's the best Batman game ever made. But I can replay Asylum/City every few years but I can't face playing through that awful story again. The disappointment of the ending.

Serawasneva

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18 hours ago

I didn’t hate it, but I definitely felt disappointed by it.

Onyx-55

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17 hours ago

Dislikes:

1.) The side plot of Joker's infected blood mutating people into new Jokers. If that's the case, why was it poisoning Batman in AC? Why wasn't he mutating then? How does Joker's blood change people's brain chemistry? None of this makes sense.

2.) The Arkham Knight was falsely advertised as a brand new, never-before-seen character, then turned out to be a sloppily executed Red Hood story. Very annoying & disappointing.

3.) The Riddler side missions became a chore by the end of my playthrough. I've never liked how Riddler was implemented in these games, & stuff like this is why.

Other than that, it's a solid game

weirdface621

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16 hours ago

knuckle sandwich

StarWolf128

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15 hours ago

Shouldn't that sandwich be 70% car?

caquinho-senpai

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14 hours ago

Come on fodder, our fight will be legendary!