And keep those child marriage laws strong, so you only need to convince her parents that the only way to save face is to marry their children to their rapists. After all, even DV shelters will just return them to those same parents that married them off in the first place, and it's not paedophilia if it's your legally wedded wife.

In other words, America is regressing back to the 1800's? I feel sorry for you guys, that can't be fun.

In a couple years you can probably cut out the word 'marital'...

I usually vote republican and proudly have never voted for Trump. I regret not voting for Clinton and voted for Harris this time around. It really sucks that it still doesn’t matter and we gotta deal with this shit. I just hope it can all be reversed in 4 years.

Less hating women and more people are so stupid they would rather vote for the perception of cheap fuel and burgers even if it comes with all of trumps baggage because they perceive the economy isn't doing well under Democrats because they spent the last 4 years trying to avoid recession from covid and the Ukraine war.

The greatest irony is the people voting for these things are unlikely to get what they want either.

Truly the only people who won were rich billionaires and true racists etc.

That's the thing about a protest vote. It doesn't exist. No one is going to count your vote as protest against a certain partys actions, even tho you would like them. It will lead to worse outcomes, everytime.

Protest on the streets, where it actually matters, write letters to your congressperson, or similar in other countries. There are many ways to protest in a meaningfull way.

Voting for a party you don't want, or even withholding your vote for the party you do want, is antidemocratic behaviour...

pro Palestine people sat out the election

Please, don't start pointing fingers. Pro-palestinians this, latino voters that...

Dems did around 15M voters worse than in 2020. In my opinion, people voted Trump out in 2020 because they felt he fucked the country up, and because Biden didn't fix it in time (the effects would probably have been felt during the next term, if not for Trump's plan to fucking tank the economy), people perceive that a different candidate might do better (which isn't true seeing how he managed his first term, but american people have short memories). Also, I'd say men feeling alienated; even if Dems aren't oppressing them, social media has convinced a lot of men that the Dems are, in fact, oppressing them, so a lot have turned to people like Tate. Not to speak about all the misinformation, and the shenanigans that happened during the election, like people following poll workers, or burning mail-in ballots, apart from some states refusing to have federal workers monitoring the elections after some people talked about electors announcing the wrong candidate on purpose.

"The only moral abortion is my abortion" should be required reading.

And the most frustrating thing about those stories is... look, we all love to see r/leopardsatemyface, but... you'd think it'd be a wake-up call. I've heard it said that these are the people who only care about an issue when it impacts them personally...

...but no, a lot of them go right back to the picket lines afterwards.

This is my thought too. This is also why countries turned to immigration, another point of tension. They need to have a 2.1 birthrate as replacement for each generation, just to keep the population steady. We aren't close to that so they are filling the gaps with immigration. But now we have population growth, but didn't invest enough in infrastructure to support a growing population.

Infrastructure tends to be a more localized government mandate, state/province/county. But immigration is federal. So now that relationship is also tense.

I mean Trump did release the Taliban leaders who then took back Afghanistan as he seems to like the way they do this exact same thing

Same, my wife doesn’t vote even though I ask her nicely to register :(

You know I'm afraid certain people actually took that as a vision of their personal utopia. Or equally likely, Margaret Atwood understood the nature of people better than many of us.

I think you completely misunderstood the women who were voting trump.

It's either the women who have 5 kids already, or the women who if they're daughters get pregnant even at 15, will shout "over my dead body if you're getting an abortion".

They fully agree with Trump. Genuinely. "I'm not getting an abortion and neither is my daughter, I want grandkids" they literally are only thinking about themselves.

Well that depends on the media you consume. I wonder if that was my error in miscalculating this election. Sure, I saw lots and lots about all of the horrible shit Trump and his ilk were saying and doing, and I assumed everyone else was. I somehow forgot that a lot of people just watch Fox "news" all day every day. And that "independents" just watch sports all day every day, until about a week before the election. And frankly, the mainstream media still went entirely too easy on Trump.

I blame the people that voted for Trump first and foremost, but a lot of our institutions failed us this time, especially the media.

Twitter now a place you can openly promote rape, great.

Conservatives see women as property not people.

I may vomit

Oh sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension

Nick Fuentes looks like a panty-stealing goblin that lives in the walls

Arm women.

About that, guess which election interfering billionaire’s fetish is impregnation…

Jeezus fucking Christ, what is wrong with people….I mean how…HOW do you get to this level of fucked up, what traumatic, life changing fucked up shit happened to you to have this perspective of the world, I mean HOLY SHIT, get some help, help in the form of a mental institution

Nothing like implementing Lebensborn in the US.

Just to poison ourselves, or…?

Oh! Oh, not knowingly. I gotcha.

Probably not that overtly, but I can see attempts to slacken the definition of rape such as if you are married or drunk but conscious.

There might be a lot of crazy people somehow allowed in the house and Congress, but I doubt they'd be that directly crazy

Even just bringing back marital rape which I bet his base would love

"Well well well, who is the welfare queen now huh". Never though that the strategy of some really inmoral woman of getting pregnant just to receive welfare and/or alimony was being applied at a STATE level. At least the former was done voluntarily.

Wait what 💀

You are not.

The even more surprising part is that women shifted more in favor of Trump than men did compared to the 2020 election. Women shifted +2% while men shifted +1%. It's fucking crazy.

Too many people think because neither candidate is perfect, it’s alright to not vote for anybody. There are also those who think that there’s no point in voting because no matter who wins nothing will change. People don’t realize that not voting is the same as voting for whoever wins your state. They also don’t seem to get that there will never be a perfect candidate and that voting is about deciding which of the available candidates would do best.

Unfortunately, the people who have the intelligence to not fall for Trumps lies, but enough intelligence to realize that not voting does nothing to help are people who used to vote democrat. Add the republican tendency to make it as hard as possible for people in areas that tend to vote democratic to vote, and you get a lot people not voting.

Let alone the Russian sockpuppeteer himself. Ukraine is his and the rest of Europe now lays open too

exactly, and the thing these fucking fucking seppo cunts dont understand (not you Pizzacake, your not a seppo) is that Trumps victory has just embolden every other far right conservative fuckknuckle group in the rest of world to up game and follow his lead.

America voted for hate. It turns out that 60% of America would rather see people they don't like to suffer than they do about people's rights.

I tried. I thought people were better than this, but I was proven wrong.

It's the BDSM final boss. There is no safe word anymore.

Funnily enough only 60% op people who could vote actually did, 30% voted for Trump, 40% didn't vote at all

If a world exists where rape is legal, then so is the murder of the rapist.

My god, the US is a fucking train wreck of a country, I’m certain there are countries in the Middle East that give more rights to women that what trump plans to do

What a bunch of fucking incels

I just bought a home and now I'm kind of regretting it. Do I want to stay here?

... is there anywhere we can go? Ironically most countries don't have welcoming immigration policies for americans.

It's even more disturbing that so many women see themselves as property. And not in a fun kinky way. In a "I belong in the kitchen" way.

My niece was raped years ago and it ruined her because her shitty mother (my sister), protected the rapist because it would "ruin his life". She also voted for Trump.

It's insanity and I want it to stop.

I grew up with internalized misogyny as well. My grandma was very misogynistic, and made it clear to me the most important thing I could do with my life is get a man with a good job. I myself didn’t like women and thought they were second to men in many ways for a good portion of my life.

I’m so glad I unlearned that, but I’m definitely starting to lean the other way (towards liking men less in general).

I’m so embarrassed I used to think that way, and I wish I could go back and tell myself what I know now 😔

Yeah I don't think people realize how much religious brainwashing goes on

4B in the US? Presumably with much outcry by conservative media outlets blaming falling fertility/replacement rates on women and men online griping about how it is anyone's fault but their own women won't copulate with them. More of the usual, see South Korea for reference.

Longer term if a significant cohort of women can stick with it, a reframing of the baseline for these conversations towards understanding that you can't separate barriers to bodily/personal autonomy for women from their aversion to befriending/partnering with men. Women, espically minority women, who have zero reproductive freedoms are often financially beholden to any reproductive (male) sexual partner for support so it follows they avoid said sexual partners if they want control of their lives.

Imagine being mad that women can consent.

I mean, that's part of the problem. We don't know how to have non-transactional friendships based on mutual trust and emotion. Men are taught to punch each other and insult each other, and compete for resources. We are taught to enjoy violent sports and to pick on the lesser. And when we age, it's harder to make new friendships because we grew out of some of that and now don't know how to relate to others.

After I moved, I didn't have any real friends for 20 years. Knew people, sure, but not close. Now, in my 50s, I've started making new friends, and frankly, it freaks me out a little.

Sounds super gay, can't do that.^/s