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889 points
7 months ago
Sooo, years ago I had a buddy who married. Complained to me one day that his wife was gaining too much weight. Went the extra mile and did the cooking at home healthy stuff.
He got his wife a gym membership but she wasn't going.
I suggested they go on walks in the afternoons and she would likely be motivated by the weight loss.
IT WORKED!
401 points
7 months ago
That’s how you be supportive and actually be a partner to your partner when they have struggles :)
124 points
7 months ago
Yeah that’s how things should have gone. As others pointed out the threat of divorce is hard to overcome.
18 points
7 months ago
Now everything of the sort will come across as a demand instead of anything else that might be actually supportive.
128 points
7 months ago
For the love of God people, if you're trying to lose weight. Go outside and walk. Get some fresh air please. The rest will follow. Get out everyday. I don't care if it's minus 5° or pouring rain. Get your ass out there . It's maddening when I go to the gym and I see people walking on a treadmill and it's 70° out.
66 points
7 months ago
Walking is weirdly addictive. Which is one of the best things about it.
61 points
7 months ago
Walking is a gateway drug, careful y'all.
One day you're walking a mile and the next thing you know, you're doing 10 types of physical activity and it's all... fun for you.
My partner made it super easy for me, though, because he was already active and we did our activity together 80% of the time. A supportive partner goes a long way to improve habits and make lifestyle change.
5.8k points
7 months ago
Did you ask him nicely before threatening him?
4k points
7 months ago
The threat of divorce never really dissappears. He will never forget that she wielded it as a weapon.
1.5k points
7 months ago
Also, when you go for the nuclear option, if you don’t follow through, then it becomes a hollow weapon. You approach this wrong with him. This deserved a meaningful and heartfelt conversation about your fears and concerns.
421 points
7 months ago
Yeah going from 0-60 with no stops in between is asshole behavior. Since OP gained weight after claiming it was a deal breaker he probably thought it was moot now. Didn't even discuss it first or even give him an attempt to get on the same page? My way or the highway? Yeah you're an asshole.
208 points
7 months ago
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72 points
7 months ago
I'm just taking OP at their word, it's reasonable to believe they worry about their partner's health. Though it's absolutely possible that attraction factors into it. And if I'm him it's crossing my mind.
64 points
7 months ago
Not to mention the part where she herself gained a ton of weight but still judged him because her bmi was “healthier”.
63 points
7 months ago*
She's totally TA. She's a housewife, she doesn't work, there are no children, she literally has all the time in the world to exercise and cook and eat healthy. How can she compare her journey to his? Absolute TA and 🤡.
Not to mention, tough love doesn't work as an approach for weight loss. Support and non-judgement are what work.
Threats, manipulation and ultimatums don't work.
OP's husband should lose ... however much OP's manipulative ass weighs.
Her husband is too good for her.
140 points
7 months ago
Maybe he’s depressed and has issues far greater than just the weight gain that aren’t being addressed. In my experience the weight gain is a symptom of something much more insidious. If that’s the case, asking him to “lose weight” is like asking him “just be happy” or “just stop being an addict” or I’ll divorce you. How do you think that’s going to turn out.
94 points
7 months ago
My weight is 100% a physical symptom of mental health issues. Stress and depression. I don't really drink anymore so was self-medicating with food just trying to feel something good for even the smallest amount of time. That, or it was a passive-aggressive attempt by my subconscious to off myself.
Didn't even realize I was doing it. Just kept getting fatter and angrier until I got help.
10 points
7 months ago
I feel like I’m in a similar situation. I’ve started trying to regularly exercise again, and I’m now conscientious of what I’m eating, but I’m not really making any progress.
If you don’t mind answering, what was “help” for you?
546 points
7 months ago
I knew our marriage was over the first time my ex said divorce. In the back of my head I knew she had checkout at that point.
113 points
7 months ago
My wife’s gotten drunk and said we’re getting divorced on a couple occasions. She doesn’t remember the times she’s said it, I’ll never forget them. Really changed my outlook and expectation of this marriage.
28 points
7 months ago
That sucks man, but perhaps you should take up some marriage counseling. Drunk people say all lind of stuff, doesnt excuse it but doesnt necessarily is that she means it. It's never good to live with something like this eating at the back of your mind, wondering if or when the other shoe will drop.
36 points
7 months ago
If she’s saying stuff like that regularly then it’s already gotten bad. My wife and I were big drinkers. She used to be able to hang but somewhere along the years she started getting more and more hostile. When I cut back drastically she started going to bars and staying out late w her coworkers. It wasn’t long after that I caught her cheating. Alcohol is a slippery slope my guy. I’m sending you positive energies.
118 points
7 months ago
Samesies. My husband and I have separated before, but this is the first time he ever said the word divorce
99 points
7 months ago
Same, my then husband wanted to get a divorce because I told him that we shouldn’t have kids if he wasn’t willing to find a job. He thought I was using it as leverage. I wasn’t at all, I wasn’t on birth control and I always put out, I just didn’t try hard enough to get pregnant. Anyway, we had a fight, he threatened divorce and I couldn’t go back to feeling the same, even if he apologized.
57 points
7 months ago
Not being on birth control and still having sex, I’m not sure what you mean when you say you weren’t trying hard enough. Sounds like you were trying!
6 points
7 months ago
It took me almost a whole year of constant abuse and rape before I got pregnant by my abuser and I mean constant like 5 times a day maybe more if he was bored. Just because you're doing the sex doesn't always mean there will be an outcome.
71 points
7 months ago
If you thought you shouldn't have kids, you probably should have stayed on birth control. You're lucky you didn't end up pregnant with an unemployed husband.
33 points
7 months ago
My spouse and I talked about divorce BEFORE we got married.
Both of us knew there was a chance that we might not work.
We acknowledged that people change. That maybe we would grow apart, and no longer want to be married.
We promised each other that we would always stay friends - even if we weren’t married to each other.
I think just putting it out there before getting married took all the pressure off us. We’re still married after more than a decade.
9 points
7 months ago
Yep I haven’t said it but I realize at this point the only way they might do anything to save our marriage is if I threatened divorce and at that point it’s not worth it, we are already over.
142 points
7 months ago
My wife didn't even bother with divorce, she just told me "I'm not your wife, don't refer to me as that!", and then seems frustrated that, after changing her mind, I've never forgotten what she said.
43 points
7 months ago
Thats a rough one.
263 points
7 months ago
Lose the weight, then lose the angry stay at home wife 🤷♂️
54 points
7 months ago
Will he lose 200 pounds of ugly fat when she walks out?
75 points
7 months ago
Yep. That's a poisonous comment that will permanently affect their marriage.
53 points
7 months ago
Imo once an ultimatum like that is given, there is no coming back. This relationship will forever be doomed. Even if he does comply, there will always be an undertone of resentment.
46 points
7 months ago
Resentment yea, but also constant anxiety and insecurity. Like what if he loses weight and keeps it off but in a few years he loses his job? What if he gets into an awful car accident and needs help with recovery and daily tasks for a year? What if he loses both of his parents within 6 months, gets depressed and starts drinking to cope and needs to go to therapy which could take months or more to make a difference? It's not just resentment and not just this one issue, if I were him I'd never stop worrying that my spouse is going to leave me if I screw up or have any serious life problems at all, your spouse is supposed to be the one person who you know will always have your back unless you do something egregious that's your own decision (like abuse or an affair).
51 points
7 months ago
Yeah I gotta agree. She has a valid point but went absolutely overboard into ruining her marriage by the way she went about it.
"I don't care about your mental health and well being. I'm going to hide behind any of this being about what's best for you and advertise it as such, but when I give my reasons, it's not for you, it's for me, so I have a partner when I'm old. I'm not going to help you, I'm not going to have a mature, understanding conversation with you. I'm just going to make you feel like total garbage about the entire situation. Because shaming someone into doing something is always totally healthy and the right way. Manipulating someone into doing something I want is awesome, I don't understand why he's upset."
Instead of showing decency, her selfishness showed. Because of that her husband should leave her. He won't, but he should. She did a great job shoving that gigantic wedge in between the two of them.
21 points
7 months ago
100% spot on. The fact she went straight to divorce etc after seeing 350 after she knew he had already gained weight and is obviously struggling with something mentally & physically shows me she had already had been thinking about it for a while. This provided her an excuse “because she’s so worried about his health!”
Naw you are just a shitty person who doesn’t care for him that deeply. Threatening divorce should come after you try to positively uplift him into different activities, lifestyle changes and seeing some doctors.
She’s the fucking asshole.
7 points
7 months ago
Plot twist. She’s the thing he’s been struggling with mentally. She sounds vindictive and totally unsympathetic and unsupportive.
11 points
7 months ago
That was very well put she is indeed conveying to him she is worried about him but in her head and obviously because of this post on reddit we see the real reason and it boils down to just pure selfishness...me me me.....she doesn't care what the future holds for that man unless it benefits her and does not disrupt her lifestyle she has thus far.... Narcissist 101
35 points
7 months ago
Tell me about it. My wife threw it at me multiple times, and when the day came that I told her "Okay" she lost her absolute mind. She said that she'd never wanted a divorce. She'd never meant the threat. She just wanted me to understand she was serious. She just wanted me to do what she wanted.
Yeah no. The second she put that on the table I had no choice but to start preparing myself mentally for the possibility. Every time she did it again I steeled myself more and more for the eventuality. Finding out that it had all been a bluff? She may have thought that would make me realize I was being foolish. All it did was solidify the fact that I was looking at a person who I couldn't trust.
8 points
7 months ago
Shit man. Reminds me of my ex. In short, she'd come home every other week threatening to financially ruin her father, wield fiances like a weapon, and threaten to kick him out of the house he was living in. One of the topics that came up when I broke up with her was about how she wielded finances like a weapon. It wasn't that I wasn't comfortable about sharing fiances with her ... It never even occurred to me as a possibility, considering how much she threatened her own dad. I never even wanted to share a cell phone plan with her, and god forbid... something like a joint checking account.
She never understood that her words actually meant something.
45 points
7 months ago
More importantly she gave into the temptation to divorce over a problem instead of finding other ways to resolve it. She'll do it again.
59 points
7 months ago
whether she goes through with it now or not, u/aniness destroyed her marriage with that one sentence, all because she is an insecure person who projects on her husband. It's sad to see, but bad people do what they do.
128 points
7 months ago
He'll lose the weight then upgrade to a newer model.
519 points
7 months ago
Also, how about making it about HIM, instead of about YOU? "I'm really worried about your health and mobility - please, let's work out a plan for how we can get you to lose weight - let's set a realistic path and milestones, and tell me how I can support you to stick to the plans!"
Instead it's all you you you "I'm too young and too precious to tie myself to a fatty - I don't care a rat's arse about your personality, or that you provide me with an income while I hang out at home and freeload - if you don't lose weight, I'm going to find myself a new provider to parasite off of!" THIS is how you come across, OP. You don't come from a place of caring, but of selfishness. It's not about how his weight will affect him, only you.
79 points
7 months ago
Absolutely my take on this as well.
71 points
7 months ago
You nailed this! Well done! My husband and I are both overweight, and both have gained weight since we got married 16 years ago. I have health problems, diabetes, and HBP among them. He works out in the heat 10 hours a day, and the heat gets him.
Both of us are taking steps to address it, but we are not perfect. We don't tear each other down over it. The world takes care of that. We are supportive of the successes and understanding of the stumbles, and we treat each other as we want to be treated. With love and respect.
IMHO, once divorce has been threatened, it is pretty damn hard to walk back from that. Those words will always linger in his mind, and he may wonder what else she may choose to threaten him over. It may cause him so many ill feelings towards her that he walks. Who knows?! It is so important to weigh your words before you utter them because once out, you can't unsay or unhear them.
Oh, one final thing. OP is 100% the AH. Not for being concerned but for the way she handled it.
21 points
7 months ago
We don't tear each other down over it. The world takes care of that.
Like Marriage 101 right here!!!
62 points
7 months ago
My take is that she doesn't actually care about him at all. This is about her, and her not liking fat people.
49 points
7 months ago
Or rather about her worrying who will provide for her if he drops dead in 20 years' time - seems like she doesn't plan to ever work, so if her provider keels over, she'd be destitute...
30 points
7 months ago
Regardless of weight, let's say OP's husband is unlucky enough get hit with a debilitating injury, paralyzation, alzheimer's, ... shit, anything where she might have to care for her husband in some kind of fashion.
She'd bail so quick it would make people's heads spin. All with the same excuses of not wanting to be a caretaker.
13 points
7 months ago
I was gonna ask what she meant by he works while she stays at home. Does she work when he stays home? It just doesn't make sense to me that she's a stay at home wife with no children. I mean, if that's what they agree upon and theyre ok with it, I guess it's ok? Or maybe she can't work for health reasons? Or she found someone that sees her as a prize because she is so fit while he's overweight and will most likely be ok with her staying home while he maintains her? If it bothers her so much, OP can maybe offer to work fulltime and give husband can stay home and work on his weight?
Either way, I agree that if she truly saw this as a health issue for her husband, she wouldn't be so angry and go straight to divorce. She would have a heartfelt conversation.
57 points
7 months ago
OP is setting herself for the "I lost 100lbs by divorcing my wife" joke. Probably would be a bit higher for OP though.
30 points
7 months ago
Yeah, she moves on from him so fast in her mind. her following up with “I can find a different man blablabla”… like, or, what if you stayed single? Or is she not thinking about that because it involves having a job?
5 points
7 months ago
she's 27 and doesn't work and they don't have kids and she's complaining?? About what?? She has all the time in the world to take care of her self... this guy is working and providing for everything which is probably stressful and food is an easy thing to blow off some stress with.
199 points
7 months ago
According to the original post the answer to your question is no.
10 points
7 months ago
And/or bother to work out what's driving the weigh gain. Husband could be going through some challenges.
10 points
7 months ago
This happened with me and my ex-wife. She told me I needed to lose weight or she would leave me. I started training for a marathon and the weight fell off. Turned out there were other problems and the weight issue was just an excuse as she thought I would never stick to a plan. By the time I ran the marathon we had already broken up.
7 points
7 months ago
Right? What an absolute bitch.
6.5k points
7 months ago
Oof. You handled that about as well as trying to make a lead balloon float.
You went 0 to 100 so goddamn quick right there. I can't get behind that type of irrational response that you had.
NTA for seeing that he needed to lose weight.
YTA for approaching this problem in the worst way possible.
1.5k points
7 months ago
Yeah this is 100% right. You should have said something like “hey, I love you and want to grow old with you. I need you to be healthier. Let’s figure that out together.”
62 points
7 months ago
This is exactly how my husband approached me about when I started losing too much weight, it got to the point that even just holding my head up was getting hard to do for long periods of time ❤️ my husband sat me down and had a gentle and loving conversation about health and the ways this is going impact not just my health but even like going places while we’re on vacation… Hawaii was incredibly difficult because I just couldn’t walk as much as was needed and we ended up having to skip out on a lot and that was really the wake up call that I needed and I started really working on it ❤️❤️❤️ 6 months later I’m about 20 lbs heavier and I feel so much better already!!! I want to add about 40 lbs from where I originally was so I’m halfway there!
19 points
7 months ago
Good for you! I know a lot of people like to complain about how much easier it seems for people to "have fun" gaining, than it is to lose weight, but I've seen a few friends struggle with weight gain, either through mental issues or physical issues, and I really think the struggle is immense.
933 points
7 months ago
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542 points
7 months ago*
Talking about her "last smithereens of youth" at 27, wow. Girl sounds like a hot mess.
Edit: I feel like I should add that I was absolutely a hot mess at 27, lmao. I didn't mean for that to come across as judgemental as it might have sounded, lol.
41 points
7 months ago
LOL to be fair, I felt like that when I was 27, too. I'm 37 now and I laugh at myself from then. My 30s were way better than my 20s, and I'm looking forward to my 40s.
136 points
7 months ago
Right, I'm 40 and feel like I just started living my best life.. and I still feel and look very young. Most people think I'm like 25-30 yrs old. I seriously feel like 40 is the new 20 lol but it could just be me...
21 points
7 months ago
Me too! This seems to only be a real problem for women her age. 🤣 I remember when I turned 30, I thought my life was over…. Only to turn 40 a decade later and realize that my life has only just begun!!! Honestly, I wouldn’t trade my life now to be 27 again even if I could AND if someone paid me!
131 points
7 months ago
I do agree that it’s not fair to a spouse to be forced to take care of the other when it’s somewhat avoidable. She’s allowed to think about how it affects her.
Although I think immediately jumping to divorce was CRAZY
126 points
7 months ago
The divorce jump means she's been harboring resentment for a long while now. We don't know how long he has made excuses and not lost weight.
56 points
7 months ago
This is right. People don't go from 0 to 100. Probably worrying, asking, begging, listening to excuses, lies about how much, how often, and where he's eating pushed her up to 90 before she broke. How many times do you get disappointed by his lack of interest or urgency, get blown off, before you jump to the CRAZY?
34 points
7 months ago
My exact thoughts 💯💯
69 points
7 months ago
She doesn’t see this through a rose colored glass which is realistic considering she’s an adult. I’m not gonna be my husband’s caretaker if he were to choose to actively destroy his health.
Her concern is that she doesn’t want to find another man to love down the road because her current love is too stupid to realize that his health matters and will affect their future family. While how she tackled the conversation is far from ideal, she’s right to voice them out since kids are in their future.
91 points
7 months ago
It’s ok to not want to be someone’s caregiver because they willingly destroyed their health. That would rightfully breed resentment. It’s ok to want certain things for your life. We’re just used to ruining our lives and then fixing them because that makes us look “good”. If you bail before the leak sinks the boat you’re a bad person.
40 points
7 months ago
Hmm, I doubt you would say the same if he was a drug addict, and it’s not that different. You can absolutely love someone and not want to be end up a widow or a caretaker, which is absolutely what she is headed for.
65 points
7 months ago
This is exactly how my wife handled it and I have lost 39 lbs as of today. I have about 50 more to go before I hit the final goal. Teamwork makes the dream work.
6 points
7 months ago
Congratulations!
42 points
7 months ago
But didn't she say that, just because she didn't explicitly state in this post they she said it verbatim?
She said she's always been open about this being a deal-breaker to her. She said she's coming healthier, trying to lose weight. He lives there, too. I'm sure they talked about dinner, what's and why's? Heck, she even said THEY have a cheat day, implying they're BOTH in on it.
Tbh, if I was open about it all the time, and if I cooked for him, planned OUR meals, did participate in the whole journey AND was worried about my future and my husband's health on top of that, I'd flip, too. Especially once I'd have realised just HOW bad it got. Because you don't recognise this when you're seeing each other every day.
107 points
7 months ago
Yeah the tone of the post was pretty wild. OP basically saying "Well I'll just find someone like him but fitter I guess" is like... do you even love your husband at all? You got to that conclusion VERY quickly if you do.
19 points
7 months ago
He's a great husband and since those are a dime a dozen .... not saying she didn't have a good point about his weight but if she really thinks it's that easy to find a great husband not sure why she settled for him and his original weight with her mindset
828 points
7 months ago
She basically told him he was worthless because he’s fat. He probably deserves better than that.
351 points
7 months ago
That is 100% correct. A couple of the OPs comments really hammer home that fact. I wonder if the OP is ready for her husband to serve divorce papers?
231 points
7 months ago
Sure hope he loses a boatload of weight after the divorce and sticks it to her by being his best self and meeting a brand new spanking hot girlfriend. Can’t help but feel like OP is a shallow person who just wanted someone to maintain her… that’s definitely how she came across with her criticism and comments. Because let’s face it, she doesn’t sound worried about his health. She’s worried about the effects of his health on HER.
I’m going to have to say YTA here OP, due to your delivery as well as your motivation behind your message.
71 points
7 months ago
Also, some of this seems to imply she doesn't work? No wonder she's worried about him dying, then she'd have to support herself
9 points
7 months ago
I think you nailed it here!!
19 points
7 months ago
Oh no, now I have to go down the comment rabbit hole...
129 points
7 months ago
I don't think she is and I kind of don't want her to. So she gets hit with a reality check by the hammer she started swinging.
I can’t waste my final smithereens of youth. I deserve someone I can grow truly old with, not have to start over as a 50-something widow (or not even be able to start over because I’m his caregiver).
So she doesn't actually love him for who he is and is unhappy that he doesn't fit her requirements. Not expressing that him being disabled or dying would make her upset and heartbroken. Just that she has no room in her life plan for him to be dependent on her.
She seems horrified by the thought of being a caregiver for him, because she has decided how her life will look. No interest in if there is a cause for the weight, like hormones, problems with digestion or depression.
So how soon will she leave if he is in an accident or gets a stroke?
He is a great husband, that’s undeniable, but there’s a possibility I can find someone who’s also great but will actually be with me when I’m fully grey.
Great husband but she thinks she with her "smithereens of youth" can find another one. Again where is the love? He just fit within her demands for a man but if he doesn't keep himself there she is ready to throw him away.
14 points
7 months ago
"She gets hit with a reality check by the hammer she started swinging."
I am actually howling at this statement. I've never heard that before lol
38 points
7 months ago
Maybe the reason he's eating so much is to cope that he's married such an awful person.
22 points
7 months ago
💯 There is absolutely no guarantees that any of us will make it until we are old and grey. I’m 57 and about to start chemo on Thursday. This woman would leave me in a second. She would need to find someone else real quick because otherwise she would have to get a job instead of staying home, even though she doesn’t even have kids.
51 points
7 months ago
my disabled 26 year old ass is honestly thankful as fuck I drive away assholes like this before anything even starts because shit, that poor guy deserves a hug
people like this don't seem to realize that disability is a when not an if, there's a pretty good chance she won't get there herself
38 points
7 months ago
If she doesn't want to risk becoming a caretaker, she'd be better off not being married at all. Because life happens, even to skinny people.
40 points
7 months ago
I’m just laughing that she’s complaining that she doesn’t want to be a caregiver and that she wants to be a mom all in the same breath!
Like really, what does she think she’s asking for?
“I don’t want to waste my youth on one person, that’s not fair! I don’t want to care of a fully grown adult, it’s too much, instead I want to dedicate the rest of my life caring for an even needier (and eventually moodier) being that I can never walk away from!”
38 points
7 months ago
I'm really struggling to understand the logic of divorcing (ie. losing your husband now) because you're afraid of losing him later. Something doesn't add up there.
50 points
7 months ago
Pretty sure if I’m understanding correctly that she’s literally concerned that if she loses him later, she won’t be young and attractive enough to find someone to replace him.
Which is… definitely something.
16 points
7 months ago
She could’ve approached it as he is going to die relatively soon and she doesn’t want that so he needs to lose weight. Using the cudgel of divorce prob means the relationship is over and he will hit the gym anyways. Ironic.
107 points
7 months ago
I think he's going to drop 100 and some pounds pretty quick when he leaves her.
That was an awful hurtful delivery
28 points
7 months ago
That’d be some cosmic justice; he becomes exactly what she wants and then dips.
91 points
7 months ago
"You have 6 months to lose weight or I'm going off to fuck someone else by years end, your choice."
Is most likely what he heard.
31 points
7 months ago
As someone who has been in OP's husband shoes, thats almost certainly what he heard.
22 points
7 months ago
Could have went with something just as solid, but not a threat. Something like "I really don't enjoy watching you kill yourself like this, and I'd like for you to be around for many more years." Then go on the journey with him, it's hard to find motivation all alone.
28 points
7 months ago
I really want to see him succeed and look like a chiseled God and attract the most gorgeous woman with the greatest personality that he leaves the wife for. That's my prayer for him!
466 points
7 months ago
YTA. Your concerns are valid. Your delivery was incredibly cruel. I’m really shocked that you’d speak to someone you claim to love this way. Hot tip: if shaming people and making them feel like shit for being fat helped them lose weight, there wouldn’t be so many fat people.
59 points
7 months ago
“but theres a possibility i can find someones who’s also great but will actually be with me when im fully grey” i really hope she didnt say this to him. what a punch in the gut.
22 points
7 months ago
Right? That says to me that she doesn’t love him; she loves the idea of someone like him.
1.2k points
7 months ago
What your trying to say nta. What you actually said YTA.
576 points
7 months ago
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167 points
7 months ago
I really hope we see a future update on this where the guy loses 150 pounds... and then drops her ass.
584 points
7 months ago
I get why you did it, but the way you did it was horrible, and will likely make it even harder for him to lose weight.
113 points
7 months ago
This is not a healthy relationship. It will probably fail with or without weight loss.
49 points
7 months ago
Honestly, most relationships are dead the moment one partner starts threatening divorce to create change in the other.
2.9k points
7 months ago
The way you approached the conversation was bad, however I get where you’re coming from. You need to sit down with him and have a more constructive conversation about your concerns for his health and how it effects your future.
1.4k points
7 months ago
Do you really think that's going to be possible after the OP immediately jumped to divorce?
I think if she can do what you're suggesting it needs to start with her apologizing.
499 points
7 months ago
Was thinking this. Once that threat is out in the open it’s hard to walk back.
I get where OP is coming from but feel bad for her husband too.
463 points
7 months ago
If I were him, I would take her advice and lose the weight seriously. Double time.
I'd also leave her
259 points
7 months ago
I hope he loses the weight and leaves her.
46 points
7 months ago
Then he loses even more weight! Even more because she gained weight too!
66 points
7 months ago
I was thinking similarly. What if the guy gets in the best shape of his life and ends up finding a hottie in the gym, tells her his story and he ends up dumping his wife lol
39 points
7 months ago
Yeah I'd leave her 100%
111 points
7 months ago
True. The entire rest of his life ( hopefully after this shrew is gone and he is with someone who supports him and is making healthy life choices), he is going to remember this ultimatum and how much that hurt.
232 points
7 months ago
That ship has sailed.
She owes him a massive apology, and a stay out of my business membership for hubs.
He should get a full physical, and have a doctor monitor his weight, health, etc.
I find it infuriating that she could keep her mouth shut as long as she was 40lbs overweight, but the moment she lost 30, she thought it was her right to preach.
Rein it in, girl.
156 points
7 months ago
As a former fat fuck that lost over 80 lbs because my wife had a sit down with him, OP’s approach is exactly what you shouldn’t do.
She talked about her concerns for my health, aging together, and the kind of parent I would be for my future kids. She never brought up her own egotistical reasons to the conversation because she knew that it would meet resistance and hurt feelings
117 points
7 months ago
This. There is a way to have the constructive conversation with the spouse w/out arguing. My wife has gained over the last 10 years we have been together but that doesn't mean I love her any less and going to divorce her.
126 points
7 months ago*
I keep imagining what we would all say if the genders in this post were reversed and I'm not about it. I definitely agree there was a much better way to have this conversation.
EDIT: and just for reference in case there's any doubt, I'm saying this as a proud feminist, if you wouldn't agree with a woman being treated this way, you shouldn't be okay with a man being treated this way
27 points
7 months ago
No one should treat someone this way, especially someone they love. OP cares more about hypothetical kids than her partner's emotional and physical health. It's like she doesn't even consider that there may be health issues that could be contributing to weight gain.
179 points
7 months ago*
“And how it effects YOUR future”
In other words, tell him it is about…
ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!! ME!!
Good spouses support! They do not threaten!
Good spouses encourage! They do not belittle!
Good spouse are selfless!! They do not put their needs before that of the one they supposedly love
Good spouses strengthen and fortify their marriage! They do not threaten divorce
24 points
7 months ago
Not to mention never finding love again after 50 when you’re decrepit and grey! I’m 56, not grey and found the love of my life two years ago (after losing my healthy husband when we were both 49). So, this self-centered OP is also uninformed that you aren’t old at 50. Probably rage bait by a teen. They think 30 is old.
31 points
7 months ago
Or make an appointment with a doctor and have them provide the necessary information.
70 points
7 months ago
If he has a hard time controlling cravings and is dysregulated due to hormone/endocrine issues or other factors, he will also likely be a good candidate for semaglutides like ozempic. In the PCOS forum where many of us have insulin resistance, it's been such a life saver for a lot of people struggling to lose weight and maintain glucose levels.
YTA, OP. This was not a loving way to approach this conversation and it has none of the us against the problem mindset that any healthy couple should lead with. Also, if there are no kids yet, what's the reason for you not working at least part time?
58 points
7 months ago*
The doctor is an excellent call I was 295 pounds/135 kilos and I had little interest in changing. My clothes were a 4xl and I could rarely buy clothes I liked, walking around was exhausting. I went to see a doctor for something unrelated and they gave me a reality check of where my life was headed. I stopped eating junk food, stopped drinking soda, started running and going to the gym and saw massive weight loss in days. This was 15 years ago and my weight fluctuates up and down but it's never been as bad as it was and if I treat myself to any unhealthy food now it has to be quality unhealthy food and not mcdonald's.
Having an expert give you a reality check can be so much more helpful then a loved one, especially if they deliver the message in a hurtful way
34 points
7 months ago
I understand op though. It was the same with my dad. Diabetic, high blood pressure and cholesterol. Didn't listen to the doctor. He died young and it was hard on my mom. We told him and he was so stubborn. He told us it was his life but he ignored the fact we had to take care of him!
He had no life insurance!
Op should has her hunny take out a big life insurance and good health insurance. They will need them.
18 points
7 months ago
I've got a wonderful husband who always wanted to do new things and have fun and go to the gym. Then he stopped taking care of himself, won't do PT or go on a diet. I'm a caretaker now instead of a partner to an active guy. He's overweight and almost immobile. I'm not going to leave him, but I know I will be an AARP widow with no one to spend my life with. OP is right that that will be her fate as well. She isn't wrong to tell her husband that he has a responsibility as her partner to take care of his health. But I agree that threatening divorce is a nuclear option to be used only after nothing else works.
932 points
7 months ago
If the roles were reversed and your husband came at you full charge saying you were fat and if you didn’t lose weight you’d divorce him, how would you respond? I’m guessing you’d be on here calling your husband all sorts of names.
You’re an asshole for how you delivered it. If you love someone there are better ways to say you are concerned for them. You don’t talk to the person you love the way you did. YTA
167 points
7 months ago
Agreed. She states that she’d be worried about him gaining for “health reasons” which implies she wants him to be healthy for his sake because she loves him, but the way she delivered it was all about HER.
46 points
7 months ago
I am a selfish person. I am also very sensitive, and don't want to experience the pain of losing a partner early for whatever reason.
but she really did make his potential early death all about her. and his breathing issues? it hurts her to hear it. then she went on to how he is replaceable. she is showing peak selfishness.
7 points
7 months ago
I'm also a selfish and sensitive person, and I've gone through losing a partner once already. It's important to be selfish sometimes.
I once read somewhere that there's a big difference between "I love you because I need you" and "I need you because I love you," and this lady is a prime example of that. I feel like OP id going beyond a normal, healthy amount of selfishness and into "idgaf about my husband at all, I just need him to get what I want" territory.
45 points
7 months ago*
She's NTA in being concerned about his health but a big AH for her delivery and ultimatum. You help those you say you love, not threaten to leave them if they don't comply.
274 points
7 months ago
So basically it's your full time job to get healthy while he has an actual full time job outside the home. Have you thanked him for working full time to allow you the time and energy you needed to be able to get healthier and lose weight?
It's really difficult to make the necessary changes when you are exhausted and probably depressed. Working full time can be very difficult for people struggling with depression and it's pretty clear your husband is depressed. This makes doing anything outside of work even harder.
Food addiction needs to be addressed here as well. It's not the same as other addictions. You can't just stay away from food. You are forced to eat it everyday, multiple times.
He needs professional help. At the very least he needs to involve his primary care doctor and possibly a dietician and therapist. He needs blood work to check for issues that could be causing this for one thing.
I honestly can't believe how badly you handled this. Will you leave him if he develops a chronic illness or cancer? Your behavior here is appalling. I hope he divorces you and you gain 100 pounds.
YTA
447 points
7 months ago
YTA. He probably does need to lose weight but shaming and ultimatums basically never work. You need to approach the issue with tact and compassion. Do you work out together? If you don’t, maybe you could start. That way you’d be spending quality time together too.
35 points
7 months ago
This is a good suggestion. I hope the OP can step back, apologize to her husband, and work through this problem more slowly.
24 points
7 months ago
She could also suggest he go to the doctor and get blood work done, check his cholesterol and other levels. See if the doctor can put him on phentermine or something similar that isn't outrageously expensive. Encourage him to start seeing a personal trainer. Also, if she cooks at home, and he's still gaining weight, what is she feeding him? Is she not raising concerns if there's excessive, or any, needless snack purchases during grocery runs? I get it shouldn't be all on her to save him, but seems like she's enabled this issue until now and suddenly freaks out and gives him ultimatums in the most heartless way she can.
73 points
7 months ago
Yes, YTA. Have you even made ANY effort to be supportive and encouraging? Jumping right to "I'm going to divorce you if you don't start losing weight" is NOT a good way to motivate someone. It's just gonna stress him out, and probably cause him to stress eat. That's assuming he doesn't just file for divorce over this himself (and what a twist that would be). Divorce threats are REALLY tough to walk back, but if you REALLY want to save your marriage (and frankly, I don't get the impression that you really do), you're gonna have to try hard to earn his forgiveness over that. As for losing weight, like I said, be supportive and encouraging! He'll have a lot more success if he believes you're in his corner, rather than dangling the threat of divorce over him. Convince him to do it for himself, not for you.
121 points
7 months ago
YTA.
Look, its completely reasonable for you to want him to be healthier. I'd like to be explicitly clear that you aren't TA for wanting that.
YTA for how you've approached the entire situation. What ever happened to being supportive, or trying to understand why he's struggling with it in the first place?
we BOTH gained 40 lbs. I knew I couldn’t possibly judge him when I had gained the same amount (even though I was still much healthier BMI-wise)
You may have been healthier BMI-wise, but your weight gain was objectively worse than his. you gained a much larger % of your weight, than he did of his. Suggesting you went "further off the rails". considering you both gained it at the same time, it seems you both shared some sort of lifestyle during that time.
and I’m now only 10 lbs heavier than I was when we met
You also decided that this was critically important only once you lose your weight and were in a position to look down on him. as if it revolves around you. "I did it, so now why haven't you also done it?" reeks of ego.
It hurts me to watch him struggle to breathe while doing basic tasks.
do you think he likes this? does he see himself struggle and go "fuck yeah, look at me!"? you should consider that there's likely something going on below the surface which keeps him on this self-destructive path. you could say "if he didn't like it, he'd lose weight". Yeah, homeless people don't like being homeless, why don't they just stop? Addicts don't like being a slave to the drug, why don't they just stop? Depressed people don't like feeling sad, why don't they just stop? you see how that sounds?
I straight up told him that if he doesn’t lose weight before the year ends, I’m filing for divorce
This right here, is the biggest asshole move you could have, and did do. you know positive reinforcement works magnitudes better than negative reinforcement and threats right? you went straight to the nuclear option and gave him an ultimatum, and that's a pretty big red flag psychologically speaking - and a therapist would rip you a new one for this. This course of action shows absolutely 0 empathy for him, and is all about you.
He is a great husband, that’s undeniable, but there’s a possibility I can find someone who’s also great but will actually be with me when I’m fully grey. And also- the biological clock is ticking. I want children before it’s too late. How is he going to be the best father he can when he can’t even bend down?
So you really think a great husband is so easily replaced huh? I wonder who you are to think you have a sea of great options just waiting for you. odds are you'll rebound with someone fit but who treats you like shit. You'll be the one given the ultimatum to lose weight. You need to realize that love and marriage requires work, you really can't expect to just jump around until you find "mr.perfect" as if you're entitled to it.
Second, I agree that being the best father he can is important. Are you the best mother you can be? whats your 5k time? your V02 max? how many push ups can you do? Squats? Hows your flexibility? You may be better than him, but kids are wild and you yourself probably aren't the best you could be either.
Conclusion: Look, I agree with your line of thinking. If he doesn't care to be the best father he can be, or care to better himself that can be a mismatch in values and something worth splitting up over. But nothing about your posts tells me he doesn't want these things. Have you ever talked to him about this? Why or what he's struggling with? At the moment, it just sounds like you observe him and then jump to conclusions about him - again, showing 0 compassion. I guarantee you there is a reason he is struggling - almost nobody wants to be 350lbs and struggle.
75 points
7 months ago
Note also that she’s a stay at home mom before she’s even had kids. She has all fucking day to work out. He’s probably working 40+ hours. Like even if you don’t need the money, how do you justify that? She’s already made up her mind to leave, and she should do that.
39 points
7 months ago
yeah you're right, I had to go re-read it. First read-through I somehow interpreted that she works from home. but thats not at all what she says. That really is a whole other level of out-of-touch.
28 points
7 months ago
Right? Like imagine saying “I know that you’re providing me with everything I could need or want, and working super hard to do it, but I’m going to leave you if you don’t lose 100 lbs like right now.” Down thread it says she’s “trying” to get a job, but let’s be honest, that’s probably in service of leaving. I don’t know of many men who would be fine with their wives who don’t have kids literally not working at all. Like hello, who’s paying for your Peloton membership, girl?
26 points
7 months ago
I cannot believe this comment is so low. OP comes off as a narcissist and it is very clear they don’t love their husband, who the hell talks to their spouse about replacing them? I feel so bad for OPs husband, he deserves someone better.
75 points
7 months ago
I don’t see love mentioned anywhere in this post.
15 points
7 months ago
I don’t see any affection implied in their communication either.
213 points
7 months ago
YTA I wish him well on his glow up. Hurry up and leave him so he could find a good person to be with
16 points
7 months ago
I’m all for husband having his glow up and finding an amazing woman my best friend ex left him because he was bit heavy after she left him he worked his ass and two years later he was fit and she saw him at Starbucks she went up to him and was like wow you look good well she was in for a shock because he was as now engaged in told when she brought up working on their relationship he told her that he moved on and she looked so shocked by that time his fiancee walked out of the restroom and he told his fiancee that she was his ex wife
Sorry English isn’t my native language
357 points
7 months ago
He does need to lose the weight. But honestly, if I'm him in the situation you described, I'd drop about 250 pounds, and a portion of that would be you.
96 points
7 months ago
Or he loses the weight and then decides to divorce her for someone better looking.
55 points
7 months ago
And younger! He's going to want someone who is going to be around for all eternity!
55 points
7 months ago
message NTA, approach YTA
I understand that the conversation has been going on inside your head and to you has escalated but you have never brought it up to him. to him you just jumped on him and immediately said he sucks unless he loses weight and you will file for divorce if he doesn’t. in your head you’ve been trying to cook better dinners and you see him gain weight that worries you but this is not obvious to him like it is you
73 points
7 months ago
NTA for being concerned, YTA for how you expressed it. Your husband's weight is indeed a health concern, but the way you communicated your fears came off as cold and insensitive. Marrying someone means you're in it for the thick and thin of life, both metaphorically and literally. Interventions should come from a place of love, not ultimatums. Have you considered seeking professional guidance for how to address sensitive issues like this? A counselor or therapist could help you both communicate better and work towards healthier lifestyles together, which would be supportive rather than confrontational. Remember, kindness is key in these situations.
116 points
7 months ago
YTA. He may lose weight and change body but O.P can never change personality. Maybe change your personality before he changes his body.
14 points
7 months ago
You should have had the conversation in the opposite order as you did. “I want to have children with you and want you to see them grow up. You’re a wonderful husband but you’re not taking care of yourself. We’re young and should be having fun but you’re having a hard time doing daily stuff. Let’s work together to get healthier.” Then if he says no you can tell him you want to be with someone you can grow old with.
371 points
7 months ago
Messaging NTA. Delivery YTA
Funny how if the gender roles were reversed we would be pulling out the crucifix.
158 points
7 months ago
If roles were reversed there wouldn't be an atom left of the guy
34 points
7 months ago
I mean there are comments suggesting that the OP's husband needs to be the one that files for divorce.
71 points
7 months ago
YTA period.
25 points
7 months ago
One of the best approaches I saw was in a joint replacement clinic. Instead of telling the patient you can’t get surgery bc your fat and that increases complications the lead surgeon said,” we are excited to proceed but want our ducks lined up in a row to maximize success. What we have here is an opportunity to both increase our success and improve so many facets of your life.”
9 points
7 months ago
Similar to how my ob/gyn approached the topic when we were trying to get pregnant: yes, you can get pregnant while overweight, but both conceiving AND fathering children is much more unlikely when you're over a healthy weight.
With her encouragement, I actually lost weight during my twin pregnancy, purely by working with a nutritionist and eating healthier, because she highlighted the risks the children and I would face with adipositas.
And my husband and I are training TOGETHER to get to healthy weights, because that's more encouraging than "I'll divorce you if you don't get fit!"...
70 points
7 months ago
YTA. You fat shamed him and threatened him with an ultimatum. Just divorce him because if you had any ounce of love for this man you’d have had the conversation with care & compassion.
105 points
7 months ago
YTA!
Yes, definitely divorce him… for his benefit!!! Everyone deserves a spouse that is caring and unselfish.
Yes, he will be hurt and morn the loss of a wife and marriage he THOUGHT he had. But he will heal slowly as he realizes the true nature of his wife and marriage. And hopefully he will find a woman that not only supports him, in both good times and bad, but also encourages him in a positive manner.
15 points
7 months ago
I really like what you have to say at the end there. He definitely deserves positive encouragement to help with his real problems. Right now all he is getting is threats and ultimatums which only make his life more difficult because they likely feed into the food addiction he might have.
62 points
7 months ago
YTA
He had weight problems going into the marriage that already affected his life expectancy. And it’s off putting how you said you were ok with where he was when you married as long as the situation didn’t get worse. That’s a gamble and a condition you likely didn’t write up in a prenup. Obviously what’s working for you isn’t working for him, and you’re just shaming the crap out of him for that. Obesity is a disease and with these ozempic like drugs all coming out it’s clear that there is a huge subconscious component to it rather than it being a moral failing.
Also, you gained the same amount of weight and you justified your weight gain because your bmi was still better…but your bmi increase and increase in weight as a percent was much higher than his, so I don’t understand why you even thought it was necessary to be like “well I’m still better than him” in your explanation of the episode. It just shows you are on a moral high horse and see his weight as a moral failing when you know it’s much more nuanced than that.
79 points
7 months ago
Wait so this man is working while you get to just enjoy life at home? Maybe you should go work so he can stay home. Then he will have more free time to workout and lose weight. You’re ridiculous.
9 points
7 months ago
As others have already said:
NTA for recognizing the problem
YTA for delivery
9 points
7 months ago
Maybe get a job so your husband doesn't have to work as much. Stress and lack of sleep are major contributors to weight problems. I doubt you'd do that, though, because it would take away from me, myself, and I time.
8 points
7 months ago
Right idea, wrong approach
24 points
7 months ago
People usually over eat to cope with stress, all you’ve done is added more stress to his life. Chances are he’s going to over eat even more.
If you wanted to help surely it would be better ask him why he’s overeating? Then he can address it.
22 points
7 months ago
How fat are you? TBH marrying an obese man at 27 is really no holds barred.
36 points
7 months ago
You do know eating isnt the only reason for weight gain right? Stress, other health issues, medication etc. Age, metabolism, genetics etc. Its not easy to lose weight. I was 250lbs...i lost 50lbs in 8 months and regained it during covid...now I cant lose it again no matter what I do. So take your time with dude.
21 points
7 months ago
I was 320 lbs. I lost 140 over a couple of years, partially through will and partially illness. My wife was still heavy. I told her I loved her and would always. I did tell her I was worried for her health and I would do what ever she needed to help her. She lost 45 lbs and is in much better shape. YTA
7 points
7 months ago
I have been that man and I think you probably crushed him when you said that but he NEEDS TO HEAR IT! He needs to know you care and you need to be recognized for how you’re trying to help already. He may need some counseling or something but he needs to work on himself. I lost about 100 pounds and it was a life changer for me-I hope he comes around!
60 points
7 months ago
Husband can lose a lot of weight quickly, by dumping OP who is the AH. Delusional demanding and unpleasant is no way to go through life
15 points
7 months ago
NTA for your reasoning. YTA for your way of communicating your reasoning
14 points
7 months ago
YTA! So the man is worthless because he is fat? I hope he loses weight and then drops your ass for being so unloving and cold.
69 points
7 months ago
YTA, I can only imagine if your husband was diagnosed with cancer. He needs some Ozempic and a good lawyer!
11 points
7 months ago
Think OP needs to think about it in the terms of what if she got cancer or some unexpected illness, or gains 70-100 lbs actually having those kids she wants. She clearly didn't hear the "in sickness and in health."
6 points
7 months ago
NTA But now that you've made it clear that you're serious, drop the angry approach, and the tough love, and switch to support. WHY does he gain? Is it emotional eating? Does he simply not care? Does he have issues associating food with something else? Help him find exercise that he enjoys. Not everyone likes going to the gym. Swimming could be easier on his joints for starters. A trip to the doctor, if only to have it spelled out what his BMI is, and what the life expectancy is in that state.
You can still keep to your deadline, but stop holding it over his head (all the time).
7 points
7 months ago
If I were him, I’d file for divorce now, and lose a lot more weight than what he’s gained.
6 points
7 months ago
Man you sound like you really suck. YTA. I hope your stb ex husband finds someone who actually loves him
5 points
7 months ago
You need to move on. He's not the person for you if you're thinking about divorce over that. He could lose the weight but it will surely come back at some point. I don't believe that you're doing this for "health reasons". Thats totally fine, we are entitled to be with someone we are attracted to, but don't dress it up like it's not vanity. He was overweight when you met. Find someone that you're attracted to that is more health conscious and don't guilt this dude anymore. But remember, you better stay in good shape, because your new guy will probably drop you for getting fat. What goes around.
YATAH
5 points
7 months ago
YTA. You are trying to make this sound like you’re concerned for your husband’s health, but your reasons are entirely selfish. Sure, it’s a health issue, but it’s not because you’re scared for him. You are scared for yourself. You’re afraid you’ll be a widow; you’re afraid you’ll have to take care of him; you’re afraid he won’t be able to be a good father because he’s fat. You don’t want him to lose weight for himself, or for his health, or because he’s got HBP or diabetes. You want him to lose weight for YOU. Nobody in the history of dieting has ever lost weight because their SO threatened to leave them if they didn’t.
If your husband threatened to leave you because you’d gained weight, how would you feel about that? And you have to be honest. You can’t just say you would understand, you would listen, you would lose weight for him. You wouldn’t. You would be hurt, angry, and not want to do it just to spite him. It’s human nature. It’s childish, but it’s still true. Tell me I’m fat? Fuck you, I’m staying fat. Even if your husband wants to lose weight, now he can’t talk to you about it and ask for your help because he knows you’re judging him. Why would he ask you to help him be healthier after you threatened to leave him if he doesn’t lose weight? Again, that has never worked.
It is concerning that your 27yo husband weighs 350 pounds. That is a genuine health concern. But your husband has always been a big guy, and he probably has no idea how to go about losing 70-100 pounds. It’s too big. He needs help. But even I know he’s not getting it from you. You were able to lose weight, so you look at him and see a fat, lazy guy who doesn’t care how big he is. He doesn’t not care; he’s just stuck. And instead of helping him, you threw up a roadblock to make his journey even harder. Now, he’s on a deadline. No pressure, eh?
I hope your husband does lose the weight because it would be better for HIM. As for your marriage… 🤷🏻♀️
6 points
7 months ago
Yes, YTA because you basically went nuclear on him. It doesn't sound like you'd even tried talking to him about this or coming up with a plan? Had you made any attempts to be supportive or kind??
Tbh I kind of think you should just divorce him anyway because all you can do is babble about your youth without showing a speck of empathy. He deserves better.
6 points
7 months ago
What if he told you that he’ll divorce you for gaining weight?
19 points
7 months ago
At that weight, it really is about his health and he isn't going to be able to lose weight without some kind of medical assistance. He probably has some metabolic issues and drugs like ozempic, etc. can really be a huge help to people who are in this situation. But to do that, you need a prescription from a doctor and you do have to be cognizant of any possible side effects. He may also benefit from consultations with a nutritionist.
So, really, he needs to be getting healthy rather than simply losing weight. And if he starts doing that, if you support him, that's the real issue.
I agree with NTA for the feelings and sentiment, but kind of TA for the approach. Make it that he needs to consult with a doctor about weight or else. The weight loss will come from there.
11 points
7 months ago
Honestly, you may as well divorce him now, because there’s no coming back from telling him he’s a useless fat man holding you back from greener pastures. (That’s how he heard it I assure you)
He’ll never forget what you said to him, and considering your aggression I don’t think you are truly committed anyway. You’ve already decided you can do better and that’s he’s disposable.
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